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Just to inform you...
Every fighting game tournament lets you use your own custom controls. It takes all of 10 seconds.
It's not much of a time issue. People put their custom controls in a game anyway during set up, which takes 2 minutes anyway.
I use Whitetooth technology to communicate with food.
I quoted him again, feel free to read it again. Anything other than this is being closed-minded. We try it, if it doesn't work, then tough luck for me and that makes sense. But it HASN'T been tried and NO ONE KNOWS for sure.
No, that is completely wrong. If you're going to respond don't ignore the points we made. Few people would use wireless so it wouldn't cause problems, plus all of the responsibility would be on the person that chooses to use wireless, we could sign something when signing up for the tournament waiving any rights to a rematch, etc. And if it seems to work fine, cool. If it causes problems, get rid of it. No one KNOWS that it doesn't work. Maybe only five people will use them and it will cause no issues, why should those five people not play how they want to play if it causes no problems? That's the bottom line.
YOU should run a tourney and prove us all wrong. Then you'll have some real evidence to voice your opinion.
Why don't you run a tourney to prove me wrong? Then you'll have some real evidence to voice your opinion.
No, it's because I've proven the problems to every single point you made.
I figured as much, rules generally vary by tournament. I'm a huge fan (and very good) at the original Smash Bros. for N64. I was too young when it came out to participate in tournaments (though I have fun playing it online now). I didn't really like Melee, but I'm loving the look of Brawl and despite how much I enjoy a wide variety of stages and items, I also have fun playing with no items. I'd like to actually participate in local (and depending on how well I do there) not so local tournaments. However, I can't STAND the GameCube controller which is my main beef. Perhaps I'll just stick to the small tournaments because if I'm forced to use the GameCube controller there is no way I'd even bother competing because I won't be at my best.
But ppl who do run tourneys ARE voicing their opinion (tourney director), and i've actually been to a few tourney's and have experience in actual tourny play in norcal. I speak from experience and know the hassles that tourney's may experience, wireless johns are gonna happen and might make tourneys run past their deadlines and may prematurely end the tourney.
I have well over 200 hours on the Wii with no desync and we are often using four players. Saying that it can't even handle one is ridiculous. You're completely wrong.
Just to inform you...
So how did your wireless Wiimote tourney go then? Oh wait, they HAVEN'T done that.
You do realize the technology isn't all there is to it, right? Many people had problems with PS3 controllers losing synchronization while it hasn't been nearly as many (in fact I haven't read any articles on it) with the Wiimote. They aren't exactly the same. Technology is much more complicated than that.
That's cool. I'm not a huge fan of the Gamecube controller either, except for Smash. It's like the controller was designed specifically for that game. I like playing with items too, but only in friendlies. Like one time, my friend threw a party ball all the way across Hyrule Temple and killed me. It was hilarious.
Ironically that is actually the signature I use on my own forum. However, I believe it applies more to you in this situation since very few people will use wireless and it won't cause a problem.
Except that nobody is arguing they should be allowed at large events. Even ShadowXOR seems to agree/understand they should and WILL be banned at larger events.
That's awesome. I've got a story while we're going offtopic, recently I was playing a 2v2 with my best friend. My Mewtwo and his Link against a Marth and a Captain Falcon. Everyone was at ridiculously high damage (this was on FD, actually). My friend is edgeguarding Captain Falcon on the left side, while I'm trying to duke it out with Marth (obviously not going well) on the right side. But eventually I get a grab in on him, and back throw him. At that exact moment, the Falcon used his up B. Marth got caught in it and sent flying across final destination and over the right edge. By the time he regained control he was just a little too far out and too low to recover.Cless said:
the point is i have more concrete evidence then you. Tourneys sometimes run on very tight schedules, and even one wireless john can ruin the tourney for EVERYBODY. As in refund for all and no prizes at all. I can at least understand what your problem is, but really there's no reason for you to be upset. Tourneys are not gonna ban any thing for a while, until we learn more about the game. Just like we did with melee, we are not gonn jump the gun on anything.
This is wher epeople start thinking your opinion is less valid, when you exagerate or make things up. I never said a Wii can't handle one Wiimote. I said that it still runs a risk of desyncing and with batteries. Please at least bother to read my post, if you're going to quote it.
I guess it just depends on what the person was raised on...for me only the N64 controller truly feels right for Smash. But I guess that's because I have like a million hours using it. I don't like the "mushy" L & R buttons or the tiny, hard to press Z button on the GC controller.
The risk is so small it isn't even worth paying attention to. It's a risk I would be willing to take, if the wireless causes me to lose, fine. But it's so unlikely I'm not going to worry about it.
Hey you know that sounds a lot like this:
Which is something I said and was skipped over by Shadow two times, and ironically is something Shadow would agree with.
Yeah, this thread IS moving awfully fast. And my connection is moving slow. I can empathize with you.ihavespaceballs said:
That's why you just don't listen to their wireless johns. "You knew beforehand that any problems as a result of using a wireless controller were solely on your shoulders, but you still decided to use one. Deal with it."Ixninjax said:
Are you serious? I have never heard of this but if it could actually work would I be pleased...would tournaments allow that? I would so use a wired N64 controller if I could.
But then you have to look at every station and go through all this extra trouble of making sure there is only one other perosn using wireless at the same time and he's on the complete opposite side of the floor.
Tournaments would definitely allow that. Plus you'd be reppin the NINTENDO 64!!! (screams a la N64 kid). That'd be really cool to see someone playing with a 64 controller. I'm not aware of any compatibility issues, but you may want to look into that as an option.
And that wouldn't cause a problem. Plus, like I said all wireless malfunction fall on those who choose to use it (me). There would be no excuses, no do overs. Also, they could monitor how many people choose wireless when they sign up and have a cap, first come first serve. Or like I said, if there are any problems I can either drop out or plug in a wired controller.
Do you know where I can buy one? I hope it works with the controller customization options of Brawl. I would want it set up exactly like the N64 version except I would turn off jumping by pressing up.