I Am Telling You To Dash Attack More

[Kitamerby]

This thread has only told me I need to uptilt more.

I use upsmash more than uptilt that's also terrible on shield. Upsmash is also amazing for punishing airdodges to the ground/killing King Dedede

Come to think of it, aren't MOST of Lucario's moves terrible on shield?

Fsmash/Ftilt says hi.

 

[Aurasmash14]

You forgot AS.

also, sorry Xaoz. but imo Dash attack is terrible. if attacking from range, Ftilt. too far?? Fsmash. waay too far? AS. also the cooldown makes me cringe. its pretty large for a move that has no killing power and is hardly safe period. I'd honestly rather tilt or something if their in range. Also, it loses any usefullness it may have after we hit 70%.

 

[Steam]

This thread has only told me I need to uptilt more.

I use upsmash more than uptilt that's also terrible on shield. Upsmash is also amazing for punishing airdodges to the ground/killing King Dedede

Come to think of it, aren't MOST of Lucario's moves terrible on shield?

Doesn't d3 have one of the best vertical launch resistances in the game? He like refuses to get starred.

 

[Aurasmash14]

He refuses to get killed period. however, Upsmashing a careless recovering DeDeDe is possible.

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

AS isn't bad on shield if they don't perfect shield it and you aren't too close. Its especially nice against Snakes to like to camp nades.

For D3 if they are Waddle throwing happy use Jabs on the Waddles when you get a chance, free move refreshment and if he throws another Waddle when you are doing Jab 1 and 2 it should hit the Waddle that you are juggling without much risk for damage.

Dash Attack is good for mixups and low % strings if you can catch someone unexpectedly.

 

[phi1ny3]

This thread has only told me I need to uptilt more.

I use upsmash more than uptilt that's also terrible on shield. Upsmash is also amazing for punishing airdodges to the ground/killing King Dedede

Come to think of it, aren't MOST of Lucario's moves terrible on shield?

It's less that lucario's moves are terrible on shield (on the contrary, imo they're above average) but that shield is so broken in this game.

I don't see what that even has to do with anything. o,o

tl;dr the amount of mistakes Tyrant made was either the result of underestimating you, not knowing the MU lol, or "having a bad day". I mean he had a stock lead, ate 3-4 fully charged AS, and he lost on his CP.

 

[Col. Stauffenberg]

I think he was high.

 

[phi1ny3]

That... could be a possibility too.

 

[Alus]

Everyone that is throwing dash attack a universe away need to take some pills.

It's not as bad as it is being made out to be.

Upsmash is pretty bad on my part... i dont care what anyone says

 

[phi1ny3]

It isn't, but you'd be surprised at how many times it doesn't seem to "fit in" in some MUs, a lot of footsies can trick you into thinking there's a DA opportunity, when they really can put up a shield and get you punished baaadly.

I love DA on the Falco MU

but I abhore it in the DDD MU.

 

[RT]

I guess I'm weird because I like dsmash and usmash...

Dash attack is okay, but as people said, it's pretty unsafe on block. If you see someone shielding, just jump out of the dash or grab instead of doing dash attack. Or if you're flashy, pivot grab...but if you get punished, you deserve it for being flashy, lol.

 

[Kitamerby]

Luc's pivot grab as a cross-up would be okay if it weren't for his slow-as-molasses dash speed. The fact that it's so slow means it's pretty much impossible to fake someone out that way. You have to run so far so slowly that you can often get naired oos before you even make it past them. :<

 

[culexus・wau]

Luc's pivot grab as a cross-up would be okay if it weren't for his slow-as-molasses dash speed. The fact that it's so slow means it's pretty much impossible to fake someone out that way. You have to run so far so slowly that you can often get naired oos before you even make it past them. :<

Luc's intial dash is pretty fast.

 

[Kitamerby]

Luc's intial dash is pretty fast.

Yeah, but foxtrotting everywhere is just asking to get tripped. :<

 

[culexus・wau]

Yeah, but foxtrotting everywhere is just asking to get tripped. :<

doesn't mean you can't use it to cross-up.


roll is a better cross-up anyway

 

[RT]

No, STOP ROLLING.

Trela reference.

 

[culexus・wau]

Wh y?

You should never stop rolling.

You should start rolling less when its predictable.

or learn to mix-up your rolls more.

and maybe get rid of rolling out of habit.

But you should never "stop" using the forward roll.

We have the 2nd best forward roll in the game christ****

 

[RT]

I said it as a reference to Trela...he knows why.

 

[phi1ny3]

But trela hardly ever comes here...

unless it's a thread from Texas to embarrass him

 

[Kitamerby]

Wh y?

You should never stop rolling.

You should start rolling less when its predictable.

or learn to mix-up your rolls more.

and maybe get rid of rolling out of habit.

But you should never "stop" using the forward roll.

We have the 2nd best forward roll in the game christ****

We have the best forward roll. We have better distance AND invincibility ratio than MK's forward roll. MK's roll is just 1 frame shorter in terms of animation length.

 

[culexus・wau]

We have the best forward roll. We have better distance AND invincibility ratio than MK's forward roll. MK's roll is just 1 frame shorter in terms of animation length.

but metaknight is a better character

 

[Zucco]

Just remember kids, Roll OOS is not always the best option.

 

[D. Disciple]

Now we know!

 

[Aurasmash14]

but metaknight is a better character

who cares? everyone knows that.

what we're talking about is the rolls. so screw MK. 1 frame cannot make his forward roll better than ours.

 

[Rayku]

can I use downB out of shield then

 

[D. Disciple]

Go ahead Rayku.