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Official Hyrule Hangout - Sheik Social

Ralph Cecil

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Zero has claimed to play something other than Diddy for the longest time now, but when he plays someone on his level it's always the Diddy that comes out. I remember when he was a "Sheik player" too lmao.
 

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Zero has claimed to play something other than Diddy for the longest time now, but when he plays someone on his level it's always the Diddy that comes out. I remember when he was a "Sheik player" too lmao.
He mained Fox at some point iirc.
 

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not sure where else to put this, but I was screwing around with fireball resets with luigi
luigi can't hit sheik while she is standing with super jump punch's sweetspot from her front unless she is on the ledge, or is in her idling pose.
She can be hit with it out of a jab reset
so yeah, enjoy this mostly useless info, maybe you can bait them by standing still and punishing their whiff or something, idk
 

Wolfen McGunz

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Sheik.

Why are the majority of Sheik users always doing the up and down thing over and over again when they KO you or send you flying?

I'm not saying anyone here does that, so I'm not here to insult anyone, but I swear online Sheiks are jerks!

I still beat the majority of them which is majorly satisfying.
 
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Sheik.

Why are the majority of Sheik users always doing the up and down thing over and over again when they KO you or send you flying?

I'm not saying anyone here does that, so I'm not here to insult anyone, but I swear online Sheiks are jerks!

I still beat the majority of them which is majorly satisfying.
you mean like sh ff over and over or like the tea bag thing? lol
 

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Sheik.

Why are the majority of Sheik users always doing the up and down thing over and over again when they KO you or send you flying?

I'm not saying anyone here does that, so I'm not here to insult anyone, but I swear online Sheiks are jerks!

I still beat the majority of them which is majorly satisfying.
I guess it would be to intimidate their opponent or to simply not lie around not doing anything... constantly moving makes your fingers hot and your hands sweaty and in general ready for anything to react to, lol. I'm guilty of doing stuff while my opponent is KO'd or something too.
 

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Sheik.

Why are the majority of Sheik users always doing the up and down thing over and over again when they KO you or send you flying?

I'm not saying anyone here does that, so I'm not here to insult anyone, but I swear online Sheiks are jerks!

I still beat the majority of them which is majorly satisfying.
It's just a part of the meta game that most sheiks play, some use it as a bluff, some use it as an approach.
 

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Dunno where to post this exactly, but I actually found the omega version of Coliseum (i'm not sure if the image is a Brawl mod or sm4sh.. it looks fishy lol) to be a pretty good stage for sheik, despite it just being another omega. Let me explain.

First of all, when playing Sheik I really love a big flat stage as opposed to a stage with platforms, I just absolutely hate battlefield because the platforms get in my way too much when using Bouncing fish, grenade, or in general the mindgames of whether my opponent will fall on the platform or fast fall to the ground, in addition to having wonky as hell ledges, so I always go to stages like FD, smashville, or omega versions. I usually pick Coliseum because of the awesome soundtrack (forgot what its called; The Deviants or something i dunno) but I actually realized it could be good for two reasons: the 1st is that its a long flat stage meaning we can play needles all day long and combo fair across the stage, and the 2nd is that the stage's layout allows us to cling to walls (super useful imo) while still having a curve that allows us to stage spike, which I also found useful.

Thoughts?

(i might also c/p this to the stage discussion to liven it up)
 
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Pfff I've gotten so many kills/mega combos on Battlefield thanks to the platforms I will always vote that as one of sheiks best stages. But I am curious as to what others have to say about your opinion.
 

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I'm generally against Omega maps, but if i am going to fight on one it better be Coliseum, the map has an epicness to it that demands respect (I'd also love to do omega magicant on Wii U, I bet it'd look amazing). I know this is gonna sound weird, but I actually like duck hunt over battlefield, don't get me wrong battle field is great and the platforms have lent me a hand in netting wins more than once, but the duck hunt map has that random element that keeps you on your toes.
 

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-flops out from the ceiling-

Yo, I'm back. It took FOREVER but I got internet in my new home..... I'm sort of surprise the forum isn't on fire.

Anyways how about that patch huh? I can't ****ing wait, if they don't nerf Sheik at all we will be gods which honestly I'm okay with : 3
 
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They were fairly reasonable with Sheik in the first patch imo, so i'm hopeful right now.
hmmmmm, I disagree because Sheik got the most directly nerf. The change in the game mechanics is what really save her and honestly made her more fun to use. My thinking is more along the lines 'you nerf sheik so hard last time she doesn't need to be touch! =D' ...pffff
 

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I just mean she retained being good and they weeded out the players who just threw out dumb things. She's significantly more stressful to play now tho imo.
 

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Glad to see you've returned Tristan! With this upcoming patch I'm gonna play safe by expecting the worst and hoping for the best, lol.
 
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*remembers the time when bouncing fish was a kill move from like 100%
 

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I'm still hoping they'll remove the inability to recover after sideB is used off the ledge, It's more than likely not going to happen, but It'd be a GREATLY appreciated change since I can't even begin counting the times where I meant to BF back to the stage but threw a stupid grenade.
 

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I'm still hoping they'll remove the inability to recover after sideB is used off the ledge, It's more than likely not going to happen, but It'd be a GREATLY appreciated change since I can't even begin counting the times where I meant to BF back to the stage but threw a stupid grenade.
Nah they won't, don't hope for it lol

last thing they'll do is buff sheik
 

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Alright, it took me like 30 ****ing m,inutes to navigate here on a government CPU. I am not going to look through the forums trying to see if this has been talked about. I also have no way of testing this either due to my situation....

Anyways, I was screwing around the other day and found this out. YOu can d-throw> uair and if you cancel it by landing at low percents you can jump and hit them with Uair again. I was able to get training mode to read a combo of 16 doing this against a Fox. I do not know what DI will do to this or anything else. Also, do not expect me to respond for a while, so aksing me questions is pointless. Take what you will from it and see if there is anything here. This is a low percent combo btw for anyone derping.

Have a good one everyone. I'm going to continue baking in the middle east. way to hot here
 

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Alright, it took me like 30 ****ing m,inutes to navigate here on a government CPU. I am not going to look through the forums trying to see if this has been talked about. I also have no way of testing this either due to my situation....
How on earth did you get around the denied access? Did you find a smashboards mirror site that you could use or found some way to change the url but still was able to get on smashboards? I remember it took me a ton of trail and error to find anime and manga sites that weren't blocked on government computers but it took checking like every site listed in google results.
 

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God is also real only if you believe in him ;)
ahh, I'll always remember how my family first flip out when I compared Santa to god. Good times.
I'm pretty sure that talking about religion is not the best idea... :/ Especially if you are openly calling that religion's god unreal. The same goes for politics, unless you are on a website for debating politics.

On to other things: Sheik is going to get nerfed. I wish everyone else just got buffed to Sheik/Diddy's level, but since that's a lot more work than nerfing a few characters we will probably see Sheik and Diddy nerfed. I imagine it'll be something to her safety. If Sheik's safety is taken away from her I might not main her anymore because of the low damage-per-hit. I personally don't think that she needs to be too heavily nerfed as she already takes a bit of skill just to pick up. A reasonable nerf might be removing her pseudo-chaingrab.

Also, I'll try out the combo that @ saviorslegacy saviorslegacy talked about after homework.
 

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I don't think Sheik's on that same level above everyone else that Diddy is on. I expect some normalizing on her as far as changes go tho. Probably making her less safe(and probably reducing her damage output which isn't TOO crazy in the first place) while giving her a tad bit more kill power. As for Diddy I think they'll do to him what they did to Sheik and Greninja in the first patch and just make him a smarter character/harder to play while still being really good. Just saw the part about the "chaingrab". I doubt that would get changed for 2 reasons. 1. It's not an actual thing in any kind of way. It's a mixup at best. 2. Because of the first point this hasn't been abused on any major streams or vids, so it hasn't even gotten the attention to be touched on. It's been a thing since the 3DS version and was more hyped then, because people thought it was legit lol. What I expect them to mess with is fthrow to BF and maybe her fair. Which is something that i'm fine with if we get some kill power in return.
 

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Who knows what will happen to her?

On another note, I won't be touching Sheik for the first few days of the patch though because Mewtwo hype.
 

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I'll play her regardless of what they do, even if she's F tier simply because I play her because I like her... She just also happens to be great. :D
 

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I swear, if people understood when and when not to airdodge and jump vs Sheik, we might not have to be worried about a nerf...

Granted, it's pretty counter-intuitive to airdodge at low/mid percents when you feel healthy, and not do so at high percents when you feel the need to escape, but I see Sheik get away with so much she shouldn't be able to, and then people complain about how safe she is. Being safe is basically all she has lol.

Personally, I think i'll be good as long as fair stays the same, and i'm actually quite optimistic about this.
 
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