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Hyrule Duels - Zelda Sm4sh Video Thread

jahkzheng

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jahkzheng said:
Sooo... I know I saw this highlight video because it's in my liked videos and I, of course, remember it. Thought I'd found it here, but apparently not. It's not linked in this thread where it belongs at least. Maybe it was randomly linked in another thread on the Zelda board, but the fact is it's not here in this thread as far as I can tell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=870U3hdB-EQ

My favorite Zelda highlight video I've seen at least.
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Sooo... I posted this highlight video a while ago now. The reason I brought it up? I recently found another highlight video from the same guy. He uploaded it a month ago.

Basically, more great Zelda stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH5_5p28HmY

Been playing a lot of Zelda lately btw.
 
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This probably counts as a double post but I'm super excited that this just happened. I was messing around on FG today trying out new applications of nair since it has changed and I heard people claim that it combos into the elevator now because of the extra hitstun since Zelda's front hitbox now does 2% instead of 1%. What I got was this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI6W7MkqjV8

I apologize for the quality as I have no capture card.
 
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This is from some FG games I've done in the past 2 days experimenting with Zelda's changes. I play a little more aggressively online against randoms because I can get away with it. I'm usually a lot more defensive than this. Also, lag is a *****.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0zDWrbUVfyyeoy-0HGn7eEhW53jLHEol
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Nice, you play very similar to how I do online, I also like how whenever you Dsmash, or NL the opponent at mid-percents to where they get knocked on the ground, you use FW to read their roll, excellent man :D
 
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Dee-SmashinBoss said:
Nice, you play very similar to how I do online, I also like how whenever you Dsmash, or NL the opponent at mid-percents to where they get knocked on the ground, you use FW to read their roll, excellent man :D
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Thanks. As soon as we get direct Youtube upload, I might start posting more FG silliness. Next time I go to a tourney, I'll see if I can get on stream too. We had an open stream at Smash & Splash that no one wanted to compete on while I was doing my pool matches so I'm kinda disappointed I didn't take advantage of that now.

edit: @ Dee-SmashinBoss Dee-SmashinBoss

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwj6IuLO5O6XCeenNIT24rw

There's the link to my Youtube channel. I just uploaded a bunch of FG matches under the Zelda FG playlist. I'll be updating it as often as I can with stuff so feel free to sub that way I don't have to update this video thread every time I decide to upload stuff. Most of the matches I'll be uploading will be FG. I hope that's not a problem.
 
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Some footage of my Zelda from The Construct 28.

Starting 19:06 is when I start playing. My first set is against Flashfire and my second set is against Ray Noire, a good friend of mine that knows how to beat my Zelda with Mewtwo.
http://www.twitch.tv/eventhorizon/v/8548803

For anyone that is actually curious, I commentated most of the sm4sh stream matches at this Construct so, if you wanna hear me commentate, these links are also for you.
http://www.twitch.tv/eventhorizon/v/8544190
http://www.twitch.tv/eventhorizon/v/8554931
 
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BB Me vs Way (Yoshi) http://youtu.be/3Frb_QQk1eI
BB Me vs MiKenyan (Mega Man) http://youtu.be/5RkppbXjAgY
BB LFs Me vs Mint (Wario) http://youtu.be/wyb3GMyemnw

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BB Me & EOE VS CRAFT (Falcon) & Aplz (Pit) http://youtu.be/NTrp2aBc2mw
BB WFs Me & EOE VS Mint & Way (Wario x2) http://youtu.be/TzIk53uKWes
BB GFs Me & EOE VS Mint & Way (Wario x2) http://youtu.be/lIieIk4SqBY

Pre-Patch
RtCT Dublin WFs: http://youtu.be/TcZi3A8NMj8
RtCT Dublin LFs: http://youtu.be/YR2L7bIkjFA
 
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Zylach said:
This probably counts as a double post but I'm super excited that this just happened. I was messing around on FG today trying out new applications of nair since it has changed and I heard people claim that it combos into the elevator now because of the extra hitstun since Zelda's front hitbox now does 2% instead of 1%. What I got was this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI6W7MkqjV8

I apologize for the quality as I have no capture card.
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I don't think this is getting enough attention on here, this is HUGE and kinda explains what the change in Nair was for most likely. There are many ways to setup for a fastfall/autocancel nair into Zeldavator. I wonder what other attacks you can follow up with or is Zeldavator the best option in most cases... to the lab :D

Zylach - have you tried any other moves after the Nair?
 
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HiFlo said:
I don't think this is getting enough attention on here, this is HUGE and kinda explains what the change in Nair was for most likely. There are many ways to setup for a fastfall/autocancel nair into Zeldavator. I wonder what other attacks you can follow up with or is Zeldavator the best option in most cases... to the lab :D

Zylach - have you tried any other moves after the Nair?
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The Zeldaboards have been experimenting with this since that patch and have found that there are a few options you can follow up with. The Elevator is the most obvious followup when the opponent is 70%+ though it gives the opponent more time to consider which direction to DI the elevator since they know we're gonna use it after a nair so we have to be sure to react to that since straight up will miss against smart opponents. On bigger characters or if the opponent happens to bounce high, we can followup with a guaranteed usmash as well which'll kill most people around 100%-ish. We can also string together nair>dtilt>nair>dtilt etc. or just hit them with a dsmash since dtilt>nair isn't guaranteed. I think that's it. The tricky thing is hitting with that nair in the first place since landing with it is still risky and it loses to so many other aerials.
 
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Zylach said:
The Zeldaboards have been experimenting with this since that patch and have found that there are a few options you can follow up with. The Elevator is the most obvious followup when the opponent is 70%+ though it gives the opponent more time to consider which direction to DI the elevator since they know we're gonna use it after a nair so we have to be sure to react to that since straight up will miss against smart opponents. On bigger characters or if the opponent happens to bounce high, we can followup with a guaranteed usmash as well which'll kill most people around 100%-ish. We can also string together nair>dtilt>nair>dtilt etc. or just hit them with a dsmash since dtilt>nair isn't guaranteed. I think that's it. The tricky thing is hitting with that nair in the first place since landing with it is still risky and it loses to so many other aerials.
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Thanks for the reply that's some great info. From the sounds of it this appears to be a "looks better on paper" situation but still seems very useful. Probably something you can't try and fish for but once or twice a game can land it safely.

I'd like to think us Zelda folk have a big advantage still in that alot of people don't have solid zelda matchup experience; hopefully that converts into getting one of these off for free essentially until they wise up.

Nair->Upsmash sounds awesome and Dtilt was something i was testing as well by myself and i thought it was legit too. That is true Nair isn't the most bossy aerial in terms of challenging other moves but i feel like fishing for air-dodges will lead to alot of these shenanigans :) if i notice anything worthwhile i'll post back.
 
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Personally, I think that nair is a great option to challenge other moves. It seems to do a good job of stopping/interrupting a lot of moves that people throw out. It's one of Zelda's more solid moves in terms of competition with other attacks. For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZgJ5VqHXao the ending of the last stock.
I interrupted falco's dash with it. I've done the same with captain falcon's dash. Even her back air can interrupt those kinds of moves, as shown in the video right after I interrupted falco's dash. That video makes me smile every time I watch it. One of my favorite replays. I doubt I'll ever end someone's stock in that way again.
 
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Hi everyone! I want to share with you my latest combo montage :


This was the hardest montage I made. Because of keeping the combo cool while synchronized with the music. Hope you guys will like it!
 
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M23-X0 said:
Hi everyone! I want to share with you my latest combo montage :


This was the hardest montage I made. Because of keeping the combo cool while synchronized with the music. Hope you guys will like it!
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I know this was against FG players but... that was so satisfying.
 
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I'm not posting a video or anything but I just wanted to mention that I'm the Zelda in the video that @ jahkzheng jahkzheng posted a while back. Unintentionally, I've been rather quiet about my identity, and also in really even being around the Zelda boards so I guess this is my hello to everyone.
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Nintendo Fan said:
I'm not posting a video or anything but I just wanted to mention that I'm the Zelda in the video that @ jahkzheng jahkzheng posted a while back. Unintentionally, I've been rather quiet about my identity, and also in really even being around the Zelda boards so I guess this is my hello to everyone.
Hi
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I trust that you're the guy. I don't see a reason for deception. If it wasn't obvious, you've made some of my favorite montage videos. Pretty flashy and sharp, just like a montage video should be. The video quality is a bit low, but the content gets an A+. Wish there were more montage videos out there for Zelda like it... Cosmo has a good one, though short, and @ M23-X0 M23-X0 just posted a pretty great one in this thread. There may be other gems out there but I've not been looking lately. Been anticipating if and when you do another. Would be awesome if Zelda had some more tricks discovered or patched in so that she has more tools and things to show off in videos like this.

M23-X0 said:
Hi everyone! I want to share with you my latest combo montage :


This was the hardest montage I made. Because of keeping the combo cool while synchronized with the music. Hope you guys will like it!
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That R.O.B. kill might've been my favorite just because I didn't expect that last kick below the screen to be something you'd actually go for and get. The Luigi kill was very slick too.
 
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Mercury v Bizmrkymrk: https://youtu.be/eqDDdVEd6lQ
Mercury v gucci mane: https://youtu.be/eqDDdVEd6lQ
I thought there were some pretty funny moments in those two..Dedede is so intimidating, I was laughing when he shield broke me.

Personally, I'm not a fan of montage/highlight/combo videos of Zelda. I prefer to watch actual matches, it's fun watching how other people play zelda and what techniques they use. I pick up a lot of things from watching actual matches(i.e macchiato's nair to up b).
 
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Mercury v Bizmrkymrk: https://youtu.be/eqDDdVEd6lQ
Mercury v gucci mane: https://youtu.be/eqDDdVEd6lQ
I thought there were some pretty funny moments in those two..Dedede is so intimidating, I was laughing when he shield broke me.

Personally, I'm not a fan of montage/highlight/combo videos of Zelda. I prefer to watch actual matches, it's fun watching how other people play zelda and what techniques they use. I pick up a lot of things from watching actual matches(i.e macchiato's nair to up b).
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I have a purpose :^ )
 
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Hey all. Been lurking the Zelda forums for a while now and been playing her for a couple of months. This woman is amazing once you figure her out. She got hands for days. Here's a couple recent matches I've played. Criticism is welcome!


 
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onehundredhitz said:
Hey all. Been lurking the Zelda forums for a while now and been playing her for a couple of months. This woman is amazing once you figure her out. She got hands for days. Here's a couple recent matches I've played. Criticism is welcome!


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It's tough to give helpful criticism because those players were not good. I like your style though. Looks like you just have to practice appropriate punishes. I saw a few moments where you could've landed some Lkick punishes to end their stocks right there and then but you opted for different options. Also, when you use phantom as the opponent is recovering to the ledge, don't use it as they snap to the ledge. Hitting them on that 1-frame vulnerability window with phantom is nearly impossible. Instead, hold it longer and use it to cover their getup option. The new and improved phantom can actually cover every single getup option if timed right and will hit them on the ledge if they hang on too long and you're the proper distance away. Don't forget that dthrow>uair is better damage than dthrow>nair now and can net you early kills if the opponent DI's in your favor. I'd need footage of you facing better players in order to really evaluate anything though because, again, the DK and Pika were not good at all.

Good stuff though. Looks like you take to Zelda pretty well. You're patient and generally know when you can go in versus staying back. I'd be happy to watch more footage.
 
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Zylach said:
It's tough to give helpful criticism because those players were not good. I like your style though. Looks like you just have to practice appropriate punishes. I saw a few moments where you could've landed some Lkick punishes to end their stocks right there and then but you opted for different options. Also, when you use phantom as the opponent is recovering to the ledge, don't use it as they snap to the ledge. Hitting them on that 1-frame vulnerability window with phantom is nearly impossible. Instead, hold it longer and use it to cover their getup option. The new and improved phantom can actually cover every single getup option if timed right and will hit them on the ledge if they hang on too long and you're the proper distance away. Don't forget that dthrow>uair is better damage than dthrow>nair now and can net you early kills if the opponent DI's in your favor. I'd need footage of you facing better players in order to really evaluate anything though because, again, the DK and Pika were not good at all.

Good stuff though. Looks like you take to Zelda pretty well. You're patient and generally know when you can go in versus staying back. I'd be happy to watch more footage.
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Appreciate the feedback, homie. I actually do go for Kicks quite a lot, but they're a bit 50/50 for me because I haven't mastered the spacing on them quite yet. But good looks on the tip for Phantom, though. I'll definitely keep that in mind on my future matches. And I do actually go for dthrow>uair strings a lot, but I don't know... I just love the way dthrow>nair>nair looks, even though I know its far from optimal :D

I think what I'm gonna do is save replays of me losing (and losing fair and square, not to no dumb $hit or lag) because I was legitimately outplayed, or me winning very close games. If you watch VG Bootcamp where the post Smash @ Xanadu, I actually live in Baltimore about 15 minutes away from the venue. But I haven't heard anything about them in a while now, and I always work the days they hold Smash sessions. :'(
 
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