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Ya for sure, 2 heroes coming together to create a new friendly rivalry which means infinite growth! =D
Lolol, well Vwins and I are registered for EVO. Bring it!! My sword of justice is ready.
I'll bring my web cartridges and hope I don't run out mid match.
Divinokage
I wanna see more of your Marth
I can try to bring it out for the Falco matchup but other than that it's pretty ass. lol. Actually, I could use Marth vs Ganon as well.@
You techchase with prediction which improves your reaction time when you have more xp how to cover options. You can also train your eye for visual cues when they tech or no tech. Once you've done it a million times then its easy.So I ran some tests today on my pure reaction to stimuli and I found some interesting (and kind of depressing) results:
Reacting to one stimuli: Average of 20 Frames. (50 tests) using http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
Reacting to four stimuli: Average of 30 Frames. (60 tests) using http://reactiontraining.herokuapp.com/
This means if I'm tech-chasing on reaction that I will on average react in 30 frames with a button press. Meaning if a Fox or Falco techs in place, I'm only gonna have enough time to jab, and there will even be times where I'm too slow and he can shine right after his tech-in place.
I'm a little sad that I'm just really slow to reacting in general. I don't know if I can improve on this because its pure reaction and pure reaction is pretty genetic and hard to change. Makes me think that tech-chasing on reaction (as any character) is useless for me if my opponent techs in place.
You might have to do it on a different browser because it could be lagging. That happened to me too and when I used Chrome it didn't lag.I got 343ms avg on the first one.
How do you do the second one? It's randomly 'freezing' at the point where fox hits the ground and then skipping to the 'you lose' part
This post, a lot. For everyone who has ever strongly considered CPing a certain matchup.@X WaNtEd X It sounds to me like you're afraid of losing with Ganon, that you're afraid of failure. As much as it sounds difficult to do, you really should play Ganon in all circumstances, even if you feel like you're going to lose with him. If you want to be better with Ganon at all times, then you need to nail down what goes on in tournament with him that causes you to lose. You can't go in there having the feeling that your Ganon is bad and that your Marth and Zelda will do the trick. What you're doing here is avoiding failure that will help you to improve. Failure is an important part of learning and improving, cause it's a direct case of showing what went wrong and exactly where you can improve upon. You have to tackle this problem head on instead of just whisking away another win for the sake of winning. Remember that this game is about learning and having fun, if you're too concentrated on the win than you're not gonna improve very rapidly. It's just another loss at the end of the day really, so what if you lost to someone that's worse than you? That shouldn't be what's on your mind. You need to just focus on yourself and improving yourself. Don't let things like what other people think of you if you lose to this person or that person get to you. Don't let any outside factors influence you to do something different.
I would suggest for the next tournament, that you only play Ganon, and force yourself to only play Ganon, if that's the character you truly want to be really good with. I had this character crisis too dude, and I learned that you have to push through and keep going because there's always room for improvement. Basically, when you choose to play as Marth or Zelda, you're essentially giving up on improving with your main in that moment, and that really hinders on your improvement as a player, you're sacrificing a chance to learn something about yourself and your character in the long run in exchange for a quick win in the short run. You might feel like the training that you're doing isn't paying off, but trust me, it is. And maybe you're not completely training the correct way? Maybe you're just auto-pilot spamming tech skill all over the place when you practice by yourself? If this is so, I really suggest you watch the Smash Practice Episode 1 where Cactuar and Zhu go over a proper Training Routine. I learned a good bit from it and I know you can too. If you really think you can't play well without doing crazy tech that you mentioned, then that's a mental barrier you need to get over. What was it that your opponent did a month ago to beat your Ganon? Did you just get frustrated that you lost to him because you thought he "figured you out"? How did he figure you out? You have to answer these question on your own and be excited to try again with Ganon if you meet him again in bracket, or if you figure out what he's doing, you can MM him, but only for the sake of learning about how you adapt or play.
It's a rough road man but you gotta embrace it, you gotta be willing to go all the way and you gotta be willing to fail now in order to succeed later. If you do end up failing, learn from it and use it for next time. You will get better over time if you make these mental changes, believe me.
What if they meteor cancel the dair? lol
Vs Falco.... he's dead.
Yes this is great. Do be careful though, fox can fall far enough before upBing that you have to drop into suicide range for the dair to hit (unless you are a spacing god and get it to trade with firefox). I believe he can even make it onstage while still being too low for you to dair and recover unless you trade. But at least keep them honest and just do it lol. Could try double jump dairing in that situation. I have yet to try it
Against Falco it's pure gold. And against Fox it works just as I outlined in my last post. I'll personally give you $5 for every time a Fox lives after the first dair. Bottom line, it's a great tactic. I've been telling people about it since 2010 but no one ever listened. It's in my old ass edgeguarding thread even, lol.
Coastward
for making reddit. Maybe not the way he intended, but it's still a frontpage gyfycat god dammit!
In my case, I'm straight up considering switching mains rather than trying to play two characters. Because I agree, it's much better to try to adapt than to be switching characters all the time at the mid levels.
X WaNtEd X
Just know that if you do switch mains, it will still be just as much work with the new character as it is with Ganon. There is no "less effort" that you put into Marth just because he's a better character. That's definitely not how it works.
Thanks. =) I was watching and I definitely feel like I've got the necessary speed back to be a huge threat again against anyone. I almost beat Armada's Fox in PM if that says anything. Just need a little more... so close.
Right but just saying whiffing sucks ass. =P Ya like if you fail the fastfall or something.
spider_sense
The level may be a bit higher than it was but it's actually not as big of a difference than anyone thinks over the last maybe 2-3 years. It's probably because there's more top players to worry about which becomes increasingly difficult to win but the game itself hasn't changed that much. I always felt that with enough training you can beat anyone, even with Ganon.
i did it for the vineI'd like to congratulate @
