Q&A How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?- Linguini Q&A Thread

[iRanch]

Tm made it out in losers beating the lake.

Ian is going to be playing I'm D7 and I'm going to be playing at D3.

 

[Coastward]

@tm YO GOOD **** DUDE

also, loki made it into bracket on loser's side too.

 

[X WaNtEd X]

yeah congrats to tm and all the ganons at apex. really wish i could be there some day....

 

[Coastward]

yeah theres definitely gonna be tourney where we can all make it and get a giant picture with all of us.

also, ganons so far in r2 are:

@Bizzarro Flame
@tm
LOKI

 

[Kryout]

Eikelmann versing MattDotZeb on stream.

 

[Duel]

MDZ Dbag of the year award?

 

[Coastward]

MDZ Dbag of the year award?

who the **** pops off on that LOL

 

[iRanch]

Lost to chillindude and gar. Shiek has me on the verge of switching characters.

 

[Divinokage]

who the **** pops off on that LOL

MDZ is like that, he will pop off for anything as long as the crowd is into it. I dont think offense should be taken.

 

[Coastward]

MDZ is like that, he will pop off for anything as long as the crowd is into it. I dont think offense should be taken.

ian looked kinda pissed tho

 

[Divinokage]

ian looked kinda pissed tho

Well losing sucks, all I gotta say. If your opponent pops off in that state, of course you'll be pissed. Kinda like Hbox popping off after a win, is it BM every time or it just means that much more because he did well in front of thousands?

Though on twitter Matt said: "@Kagethewarrior I beat a ganon using the Kage tag" Didnt even say his name.. lol That's BM.

 

[Coastward]

Well losing sucks, all I gotta say. If your opponent pops off in that state, of course you'll be pissed. Kinda like Hbox popping off after a win, is it BM every time or it just means that much more because he did well in front of thousands?

Though on twitter Matt said: "@Kagethewarrior I beat a ganon using the Kage tag" Didnt even say his name.. lol That's BM.

well like, he popped off during the handshake...

but yeah, i know ian couldve beaten him. he dropped mega edgeguards.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

Got first place today in the first tournament here in Peterborough (where I'm going to school). Lost WFs 3-2 (first 4 games Fox against Sheik, game 5 I tried Ganon on Yoshi's and it didn't work out to well), then won LFs 3-1 (first two games Fox vs Falco, he CPed me to FD for Game 3 so I went Mewtwo and then I went Ganon when he CPed me to Yoshi's for game 4) then won the first set of GFs 3-1 with Ganon vs Sheik and then won GF2 3-0 Ganon vs Sheik. I no longer have any idea what to do when it comes to character selection.

Tough break for Ian losing to MDZ How close was it?

 

[-ACE-]

Ian and Jason (ss) are only getting better.

The south will rise again.

 

[Bwmat]

lol mewto in LFs

Nice job winning in ganon V shiek, it's a struggle.

Just pick your main unless you have good reason not to (other player's main is a terrible matchup, you just lost hard as your main, etc). For me I always start off ganon, and sometimes if I lose hard I switch to fox. Usually I regret switching though,

 

[Coastward]

so @Bizzarro Flame almost beat colbol.

even though it was a 2-0, bizz potentially could have taken it if he didnt try to swag so hard.

so i honestly believe fox ganon is possible now.

 

[Bwmat]

Yeah, I could have seen him taking it. Damn it.

It's always been possible IMO, you just have to be playing reaaally well. Not drop anything.

 

[RedmanSSBM]

I actually don't think Bizz swagged too hard, I think he played really well in neutral and didn't do anything out of line. He maximized his punishes pretty well and his edgeguards were pretty decent but could have been more clean.

In other news today, I summoned my inner @ Divinokage when I played vs a Puff main in my city that I had struggle to beat in the past before. I beat him 3-1 in a ladder match using all Ganondorf. It just clicked for me. The Puff matchup is now doable in my eyes and I'm so happy about it. My mentality was great too. I never got upset with any mistake I made, and just laughed it off and continued on. I kept calm the entire time and never did anything rash. Felt really good to finally beat him.

I had gone Doc against him before because of me not believing that Ganon can do it, but then my neutral just got a LOT better and I grabbed Puff a lot more and got so much mileage out of it. I even got a lot of upairs on him while he was above me. I'm just really happy that a matchup that I thought was impossible with Ganon for myself was conquered today. This gives me great hope continuing into the future.

I'll be really happy to write a Puff write-up, cause I definitely played the match really well and I knew exactly what I was doing.

 

[Coastward]

there were a few moment where a fair would have just gotten him a stock but he went for some other random move because it was gonna look cool.

 

[Bwmat]

any vids?

Fox is possible, just take a look!
http://gfycat.com/WearyShadyHermitcrab
http://gfycat.com/AdmirableHomelyBronco
</stealth brag>

lol

 

[PseudoTurtle]

So is bizz eliminated then? Or just in losers? I'd hate to see the ganons get eliminated.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

Yo @ Coastward and @ Divinokage are you guys going to McSmashter?

 

[Coastward]

he's eliminated now, lost to colbol and eddy mexico.

no ganon made top 48 this year, even though were all improving so much.

 

[Coastward]

Yo @ Coastward and @ Divinokage are you guys going to McSmashter?

i am.

 

[Bwmat]

damnit kage. He could have done it.

 

[Kryout]

Eikel versus Bizzaro on stream.

I vote winner plays Kage APEX 2016.

 

[SwiftNinjaBlackMan]

.....damn that was an epic match

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

i am.

sweet we gotta play

 

[Coastward]

i wish it went to game 5 so baddddd.

sick match though, ian went tryhard mode game 3. i could see the russian swag in his eyes.

 

[Kryout]

"The important thing is that Ganondorf won." -@Eikelmann

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

[Bwmat]

man, I really want to improve my ganon lately. I wanna get top 3 at a local again. Actually live up to everyone's delusion that I'm the best ganon in canada.

halp. How do I beat good players who know the matchup

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

i wish it went to game 5 so baddddd.

sick match though, ian went tryhard mode game 3. i could see the russian swag in his eyes.

Yeah it was a bit disappointing that he couldn't take a game

btw @Eikelmann what did you yell in Russian before the match? The stream cut out and also I don't speak Russian.

 

[Yort]

EEEEASSSY MONEY

 

[Bwmat]

figured something out on battlefield, although it's probably already known.

If you're on one of the lower platforms, and you roll to the edge, if you fall through the platform and aerial while holding towards the ledge, you'll ledge cancel (and grab the edge if you don't do anything else).

Might be useful with up-air or down-air to edgeguard if you're not sure whether they're going to try for the stage. Also, you can waveland on the platform from the middle, roll, and up-air/back-air pretty quickly.

 

[CupofT]

Hope this is the right spot to ask this:

How do I practice wavelands? (Bizzaro wavelands too fast)
Or more generally, how do I improve my Ganondorf movement?

 

[Renth]

https://gfycat.com/UnnaturalHandmadeBinturong

 

[Bwmat]

goddamn I love it. I'm trying that next time I play a shiek.

 

[Bwmat]

Hope this is the right spot to ask this:

How do I practice wavelands? (Bizzaro wavelands too fast)
Or more generally, how do I improve my Ganondorf movement?

haha, I just made a video with my phone showing what I usually do between stocks or when I'm practicing (which is rare), but the quality is horrible and it's 200 megs so eh. If you want it, gimme somewhere to upload it, but you probably don't.

 

[-ACE-]

Locke how the hell do you get multiple grabs on a good puff lol? sh*t is tough.

Mark: Looooool bodied

 

[-ACE-]

figured something out on battlefield, although it's probably already known.

If you're on one of the lower platforms, and you roll to the edge, if you fall through the platform and aerial while holding towards the ledge, you'll ledge cancel (and grab the edge if you don't do anything else).

Might be useful with up-air or down-air to edgeguard if you're not sure whether they're going to try for the stage. Also, you can waveland on the platform from the middle, roll, and up-air/back-air pretty quickly.

This was discovered by Tipman about 5-6 years ago. You can do 3 bairs or uairs that way also. Situational but good to know.