Q&A How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?- Linguini Q&A Thread

[Bizzarro Flame]

bizz mm me $20 at bh4 ill smack u

Sounds good. Only one condition, no crying like a ***** when I take your lunch money away for the day okay?

 

[Divinokage]

Sounds like a good prediction. Let's see if it works out for you. BTW you'd have to show me the money. I already have that much on me at any given moment so no worries there.

Also I'm not claiming that I know you, I'm justputting you on blast a bit haha. but had to explain that **** talk on the boards =/= real life LOL.

The $ is right here, all that's left is an opportunity to draw it out.

 

[Coastward]

do you guys use white controllers? mine broke yesterday and i dont know if theyre any good.

 

[Divinokage]

Ya i have using them for a while. They are comfortable for me though I can't really tell the difference between all the different colors on controllers.

 

[Coastward]

a lot of people say the only difference they feel in them is the control stick's sensitvity, im still on the fence about it.

 

[cptjiggles69]

Can you make it to any toronto tournaments? Im dying to play you

 

[Bizzarro Flame]

White controller is pretty legit. Silver one is the best one for Ganon IMO.

If you guys want to style though: http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-GameCube-ASCII-Keyboard-Controller/dp/B0000694RM

 

[Coastward]

oh **** i totally forgot about those lmao, i guess ill pick up a silver one.

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

probably gonna be on vgbootcamp a bunch this coming weekend. i plyed mango's mario on stream before the event started and did work. hopefully i can find the replays.

 

[Coastward]

probably gonna be on vgbootcamp a bunch this coming weekend. i plyed mango's mario on stream before the event started and did work. hopefully i can find the replays.

dude i actually saw that, you bopped the scorp lmao

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

every time @spider_sense and i ditto, i swear they're the greatest ganondorf dittos of all time. if only you guys could see them.

 

[cptjiggles69]

I can't believe that is real...

White controller is pretty legit. Silver one is the best one for Ganon IMO.

If you guys want to style though: http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-GameCube-ASCII-Keyboard-Controller/dp/B0000694RM

 

[X WaNtEd X]

White controller is pretty legit. Silver one is the best one for Ganon IMO.

If you guys want to style though: http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-GameCube-ASCII-Keyboard-Controller/dp/B0000694RM

There's a few people locally that always use the keyboard controller. But they're PM players.

 

[-ACE-]

every time @spider_sense and i ditto, i swear they're the greatest ganondorf dittos of all time. if only you guys could see them.

Lol, I love ditto'ing jason too. He had a slight upper hand on me when I was in FL but I kept getting better each time I played him (goes to game 3 almost always). You and I should play again since we never did at ceo. Last time I was really rusty and got bopped. I should be able to make it closer next time.

 

[PseudoTurtle]

ACE, you're the man lol

Oh, and bizz I'll MM you for $5 as long as it gets recorded.

 

[Coastward]

wow turtle step it up, im putting down 20

 

[MosthatedinNC]

to my general understanding, tm and pseudoturtle are probably the better two 'newer' ganons. Anyway, i'd like to see them MM. Coast, you might be the next one in line so to speak, so you should take a crack at them too.

And no, I'm not calling y'all new, and if my guess of how y'all size up ti each other is wrong, all the more reason to MM!!! The ditto doesn't prove everything, but it shows a lot.

 

[Coastward]

WHEN I GROW UP I WANNA BE LIKE ACE

 

[-ACE-]

Lmao. I just poured a scotch on the rocks.

If only not playing for months at a time affected all matchups as little as it does dittos.... lol. Ian and Jason are much better well-rounded ganons than myself regarding consistency in tougher/speed requiring matchups. Dittos are easy though once you learn the rules and I know the matchup.

 

[Divinokage]

I wish Coast would give me 20$ just like that. lol

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

I wish Coast would give me 20$ just like that. lol

You need to go to tournaments for people to give you money.

 

[Coastward]

LMAOOOOOOOOO

 

[cptjiggles69]

I have to play you soon coast. I've been putting in work

 

[PseudoTurtle]

to my general understanding, tm and pseudoturtle are probably the better two 'newer' ganons. Anyway, i'd like to see them MM. Coast, you might be the next one in line so to speak, so you should take a crack at them too.

And no, I'm not calling y'all new, and if my guess of how y'all size up ti each other is wrong, all the more reason to MM!!! The ditto doesn't prove everything, but it shows a lot.

This is a fantastic idea. I 2-0'd tm last year the last time we played (and I'll never let you forget it Sawyer! ). But dittos are jank as hell. Sometimes , I go so close with trail in the ditto, even taking the occasional game at times when he outplaces me by embarrassing numbers. But I know tm's been putting in so much work to improve and he's looking good. Wonder how it'd end up this time around. Let's do this.

Coast, can I have $20 too?

 

[Coastward]

sure, once i beat bizz i'll be ready to go.

 

[MosthatedinNC]

Haha .

 

[Renth]

Don't sleep in TM kids got crazy potential

 

[PseudoTurtle]

^ agreed. I was way impressed after seeing his first vid and knowing that it was the same guy I played at bh3. Even at big house, kages falcon took a hell of a beating from the dude. I only took like 3 games out of... Too many.

Definitely excited to play him and coast (after he beats bizz). And Locke so I can see how much he's improved since month one (aka bh3)

 

[PseudoTurtle]

ACE, you've inspired me. Scotch on the rocks = drunk pseudo.

 

[DrWorm]

to my general understanding, tm and pseudoturtle are probably the better two 'newer' ganons. Anyway, i'd like to see them MM. Coast, you might be the next one in line so to speak, so you should take a crack at them too.

And no, I'm not calling y'all new, and if my guess of how y'all size up ti each other is wrong, all the more reason to MM!!! The ditto doesn't prove everything, but it shows a lot.

Looks like i need an opportunity to try and prove myself, too bad I can't travel to big tournaments

 

[iRanch]

me vs mango looooooooooooooooooooooooool
http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/b/561494633?t=8h12m14s


****

 

[Coastward]

REKTTTTTTTTTTTTT

 

[iRanch]

REKTTTTTTTTTTTTT

The sad part is I was the best person in the crew battle >____>

 

[X WaNtEd X]

what do you do when you play a fox that's just much better than you as ganon? go for tilts/jabs? i got rekt by zero yesterday at mass madness and he showed me how to use the c stick to roll immediately after getting your shield shined. although my defensive game was solid against him (shield drop uair'd him once, didn't fall for many of his frame traps, even managed to do a rising uair to kill him off stage once) i just couldn't approach him in neutral so i couldn't get anything substantial started and just got double 3 stocked.

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

ended up playing @spider_sense in bracket at smash the record, won 2-0. we struck to battlefield game one, it was an absurdly close match like every one of our games. he got early momentum but as we know in ganondorf dittos, momentum ain't **** and so i got some good hits in and brought it back. got him off stage once on his last stock and clutched out the edgeguard for the win. game two, he takes me back to battlefield, starts off similar to game one except i changed my approach pattern and we traded fairs at the start. he suicides middle of the game and i took the opportunity to gain stage control as quickly as possible. the matched ended with me being a huge *********** piece of **** and chaingrabbing him to 80 into a back air in the middle of the stage, ending the set with a two stock at low percent.

and then i lost 2-0 to clay and my tournament run ended. think i got 9th or some ****, idk.

oh but i basically 4 stocked hugs in the boss rush

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

WATCH ME PLAY SCORPION MASTER (Mango's Mario) on vg bootcamp!

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/b/560787177

starts at 42:50

was playing really ****in fast these matches, did some great stuff. everyone should check it out.

WATCH ME PLAY HUGS DURING THE BOSS RUSH

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/b/561494633

starts at 3:55:47

i played pretty well here as well. tried so hard to bring us back from that deficit. i was so drunk during that crew battle that i thought i was out of stocks and tried to shake his hand too early LOL

****ing hilarious floating away missile btw

 

[MosthatedinNC]

About to check them out.

Locke, how did your MM with eddie go and who'd you face in bracket?

 

[RedmanSSBM]

Yeah I just straight up suck at the Ganon ditto cause I don't play it nearly enough. I only have a lot of experience in the spacies, Marth, and Falcon matchup. I'm still pretty bad vs. Sheik, Peach, Puff, ICs, and any other mid-tier matchup. I need more xp lol.

Also, $mike told me yesterday that he had some interesting Ganon theories.

1. Ganon should use side-b and down-b to tech-chase since it covers 3/4 options if timed correctly. Don't use side-b in neutral.
2. Instant up air is really good and underused, especially in neutral.
3. Full hop dair in neutral can work if you time it right. Just full hopping in general is a good idea cause Ganon kind of floats and he can easily do anaaerial coming down. I definitely feel like I don't full hop enough.

 

[RedmanSSBM]

I got 3-0ed by Eddie but each game was down to last stock and close. On tournament I played a scrub, then PPMD, then another scrub, then a guy I rode up with from Charlotte and lost 2-0 to his 2 week Puff :/

 

[X WaNtEd X]

yo eikelmann your matches with scorp a dorp were great, saw them live on stream. i loved how you light shielded the fireballs to edgeguard mario. i'm gonna steal that. there's a doc i play sometimes called mr. lemon who's pretty good, so that should be an interesting way to edgeguard him.

Yeah I just straight up suck at the Ganon ditto cause I don't play it nearly enough.

I used to hate it too, but I've gotten much better at it lately. I try to stuff jumps with uair, land with ftilts and exploit grabs to the fullest. I feel like it's a really simple matchup once you learn it, but it's very unforgiving. Just play more ganons.

1.Ganon should use side-b and down-b to tech-chase since it covers 3/4 options if timed correctly. Don't use side-b in neutral.

I don't do this nearly enough.

2. Instant up air is really good and underused, especially in neutral.

I've been doing this a lot recently. If I get the uair, I can usually dj uair or waveland towards them to get under for more juggles. This is actually something I do in the ditto a lot. Then again, most of the ganons I play are really bad and just throw fairs so I'm not sure how good this actually is.

Full hop dair in neutral can work if you time it right.

It's good vs peaches dsmash heavy peaches especially. You get the dair, you can then dj and either land a second dair if they get up in place/tech in place, you can fair/bair depending on what direction they go or you can land into a waveland toward them.

I've also experimented with using full hop dair underneath platforms. I'll edge cancel the dair into whatever best suits the situation. Most often the uair. If they jump into the dair, you can actually use the uair to jab reset if they don't tech and land right behind you. I've only ever done it by accident and wasn't able to follow up because I wasn't fast enough, but it's food for thought.

Just full hopping in general is a good idea cause Ganon kind of floats and he can easily do anaaerial coming down. I definitely feel like I don't full hop enough.

I feel like this is matchup dependent. I really dislike full hop vs marth for example. But I love it vs falco because it forces them to commit and hopefully make a mistake.