Guide How to hatch a healthy Yoshi: A Yoshi guide

[metayoshi]

Finally, I decided to read through a Yoshi guide instead of watching Fumi's videos to get better with yoshi. I've been a Yoshi player since the N64 days, but I never got serious with him until recently where I kept losing badly in tournaments.

This is a great guide. Now I know what fumi is doing in his videos .

 

[superkong53]

i like the picture of the inventory of yoshi at the end of the first post. its like an RPG! i like RPGs.

 

[Deleted member]

Awesome guide. I'm having trouble with the djl thing. Is it important. Well anyways, best Yoshi guide i've ever seen (btw bringer, i watched some of ur vids, u are quite good. U do lots of tourneys?)

 

[rmusgrave]

Only Australian ones. I'm an Aussie vet smasher, not that it means much in terms of American vets, but you know.

 

[superkong53]

does anyone think that sora from KH would make a good brawler?

 

[rmusgrave]

No.

Go to the Brawl rooms to discuss that topic.

 

[Deleted member]

does anyone think that sora from KH would make a good brawler?

Kind of random,but yes, it would be cool if he was in brawl (almost as cool as snake).

 

[Bloshi]

does anyone think that sora from KH would make a good brawler?

Erm, wtf? Why does everyone like Sora anyways...

 

[Deleted member]

Cuz....

Well i like the kingdom hearts games, and sora is gangster and his shoes are really big! Also, he wouldn't be a bad smash bro, considering he could use magic, and his keyblade would make him like a sword wielder.

 

[Shiri]

ANYWAY...

...Something about Yoshi...

Bringer, can you send me a PAL copy of Melee?

 

[rmusgrave]

It's not impossible, but it's also not free. And I don't even know if game stores still have GC games anymore. I'll have a look next time I'm in a game store for you Shiri. Chances are I'll get a player's choice case, which is what Ryoko wanted so he could tell the cases apart.

 

[Bloshi]

Do you need a PAL gamecube to play PAL smash?

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

I made a very strange observation about Yoshi's foward smash. If you hit the enemy at the tip of his head, you can hit your opponent with a bit more knockback and a slightly lower trajectory.

 

[Winnar]

@ Bloshi - I'm pretty sure any GCN will play PAL or NTSC smash, it's more of an update for SSBM, not the GCN.

@ Eternal Yoshi - I thought you might be onto something, so I did a little testing. How close Yoshi was didn't seem to effect the knockback, but of the angled f-smashes, the d-angled f-smash had slightly farther knockback than the rest. This was done in training mode on FD with Yoshi and Doctor Mario. The Doc was set to human with 50%, and there was no DI'ing. Sorry Maybe it just catches people by surprise and they DI poorly, because I thought you were right.

 

[rmusgrave]

PAL smash only runs on a PAL cube. Freeloaders and Action Replay will take care of this though.

 

[Shiri]

Freeloader for the victory.

 

[::FalcoFTW::]

Hey I was wondering do you know how to do a double jump off the ledge and turn around, egg toss and still grab onto the ledge? I've done it several times when practicing the ledge cancelled egg tosses. Now that I've got those down i'm trying to figure out how to turn around and throw eggs for greater range, but i can't seem to do it at all now. I always jump too far away from the ledge to catch it again...

Also, thanks for the guide. I didn't know about the double jump edge guard. It makes for some really quick edge hogging. I frequently egg toss or air dodge (failed wavedash) of the edge and to my demise, but not anymore

 

[rmusgrave]

There's a topic in this forum relating to that actually.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=111616

I can't do it that consistently, and I personally don't think it's worth it as there are very few situations I can think to use it in.

Perfect it and be ultra flashy for your friends and you'll have my respect though!

 

[Yoshi Kirishima]

Nice guide! Yoshi is basically my favorite game character of all times, and i was a little dissapointed at him cus he wasn't as good as some other chars in melee (at least that's what i thought back then), but reading this it seems that if I master these things i will be able to beat one of my friends who pick higher tier chars i will definitely try these things out, i always wanted to know how to do the edge egg throw thing (i forget what its called) Im surprised how the guide even includes info about frames, i mean, isn't it like, VERY HARD to find out how many frames there are in an attack or other thing? And the readability was very good, i didn't find anything (well, not yet, but i read almost all of it, just didnt read the basic moves descriptions) that was confusing because of bad organization/grammer. Thx for this guide:D

btw, nice sig:D

 

[Yoshi Kirishima]

Nice guide! Yoshi is basically my favorite game character of all times, and i was a little dissapointed at him cus he wasn't as good as some other chars in melee (at least that's what i thought back then), but reading this it seems that if I master these things i will be able to beat one of my friends who pick higher tier chars i will definitely try these things out, i always wanted to know how to do the edge egg throw thing (i forget what its called) Im surprised how the guide even includes info about frames, i mean, isn't it like, VERY HARD to find out how many frames there are in an attack or other thing? And the readability was very good, i didn't find anything (well, not yet, but i read almost all of it, just didnt read the basic moves descriptions) that was confusing because of bad organization/grammer. Thx for this guide:D

btw, nice sig:D

edit: is there a double posting rules in this forum? anyways, is there a video u know of that is about Yoshi and shows his advanced strategies and stuff and also info about how to do it? or can you make one?
cus IMO videos are more enjoyable and more helpful cus you can actually see what it looks like, and also it can help with timing the strategies, for ex: when you press this button, etc.,

 

[rmusgrave]

Search for Fumi on Youtube. He is a great Yoshi player and you will see how fast he can play.

 

[Azure Rune]

...........

 

[LittleFumi]

good job, but the one thing i disagree about is the falco against yoshi matchup, i dont think that yoshi has a win victory of 6:4, i think that yoshi against falco is an even matchup so the ratio would be 5:5

 

[NJzFinest]

This guide must of been based on the much earlier metagame.

Falco has a pretty good advantage over Yoshi, it's probably 3:7 for Yoshi.

 

[Sir_Kibble]

I'm feeling that a few of the ratios are a bit off. The falco one kind of seems to be assuming that falco's a slower fox ... and that's just silly.

Still, the tech data helps a lot and none of the advice is bad. (Egg Roll IS terrible.) Nice guide.

 

[NJzFinest]

I'm feeling that a few of the ratios are a bit off. The falco one kind of seems to be assuming that falco's a slower fox ... and that's just silly.

This is true

 

[Binx]

Superhelpful THANKS!

 

[MegaUltraChicken]

Uh, isn't falco top tier?
Sweet guide.

 

[Kyo Kusanagi]

Let me say this all of yoshi's specials are freaking awesome, on the contrair, yoshi's egg roll is pretty good as a tech chasing move, also on hills, you can use downhills to speed you up.

Yoshi ***** heavies if no one has figured it out yet. Yoshi's most hated enemies is the whole mushroom kingdom.

I main the space animals and Falcon and I know not to fight yoshi.

 

[XIII ways to die]

ya kyo isnt a healthy hatched yoshi he is an undead hatched yoshi.
he goes for the brains right in the face and owns.

 

[MysteryT]

Of all of the different Yoshis (N64, Melee, and Brawl) I find Yoshi the most difficult to use in Melee.

The Egg Roll is harder to use in Melee than in Brawl, since in Melee the egg roll easily leads to my character falling off the edge. In Brawl the egg usually "hugs" the edge so I can reverse my egg's direction and go back and forth across the platform.

Has anyone here mastered using the Egg Roll in Melee? What would you guys suggest I do?

 

[Mind Trick]

Of all of the different Yoshis (N64, Melee, and Brawl) I find Yoshi the most difficult to use in Melee.

The Egg Roll is harder to use in Melee than in Brawl, since in Melee the egg roll easily leads to my character falling off the edge. In Brawl the egg usually "hugs" the edge so I can reverse my egg's direction and go back and forth across the platform.

Has anyone here mastered using the Egg Roll in Melee? What would you guys suggest I do?

Don't use egg roll, it's useless.

 

[Lordydennek]

It really is useless. except for the ultimate mindgame. like eggrolling on accident.

 

[Reptar]

has anyone figured out that you can double jump cancel yoshis nair so fast that the hitbox doesnt come out?

 

[ZaXXoR]

Holy smokes, that's a really good guide, very in-depth, much appreciated! :D

 

[Yoshi Kirishima]

Don't watch Fumi, watch AmSa, he is the best Melee Yoshi player in the world.

It's crazy how much time has passed. I am now 7 years older than when I made that post above on this page, and there has been a full smash game before these posts (brawl wasn't out yet, and now smash 4 is and here i am posting). And now amsa is the best yoshi and he's doing great.

 

[Yoshi Kirishima]

If this is not too personal, how old were you when you made that post? I WAS ALMOST 7! Now I am 14!

i was 13 ^^

 

[Nuttre]

I feel like you can pick up different things from every yoshi, but watching top level players do anything is always more pleasurable.

 

[Pabmyster]

Agreed, in most cases.

It's because you revived a 10 year old thread. Most of the people who posted on this are long gone, and a lot of this info is outdated. Also, don't take it that aMSa is the end-all-be-all of Yoshi or the Yoshi meta. He is the most (only) successful Yoshi thus far, but his playstyle is far from perfect. Keep that in mind!