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[skizbe]

Haha thanks for the advice. I don't really like camping, but your advice is logical, and is probbly my best bet.
Does shine cancel the bike recovery?

 

[Kalm]

Shine is a brutal attack as far as it's knockback is considered. It literally causes your opponent to fall back and down through the air from hitstun, it's not like other attack where you can DI up and give yourself more room to get back to the ledge. It's also a very safe gimp to hit them with, since it literally stops you in the air.

Any attack can knock Wario off a bike, but the shine will knock him off and back at a weird trajectory that his UpB won't compensate for. This works on any character with a less than good UpB, such as...
Link, Ike, Wario, Mario, Luigi, and many many more, even Falco and Lucario can be owned by shine gimping. Put it high up on your list of techniques to master.

You're a noob skiz, good to see you on the boards, I look forward to checkin out your Fox. =3

 

[hdrevolution123]

How do I deal with this situation?

An aggressive Meta Knight just happened to have landed on my face and is just waiting to do whatever attack which outprioritizes mine with Fox. How can I somehow predict his next move so he can't punish me cos if I spotdodge he'll attack me from there, if I shield he'll grab me and if I roll he dash attack and followup. What the f*** can I do in this situation?

 

[Zhamy]

An aggressive Meta Knight just happened to have landed on my face and is just waiting to do whatever attack which outprioritizes mine with Fox. How can I somehow predict his next move so he can't punish me cos if I spotdodge he'll attack me from there, if I shield he'll grab me and if I roll he dash attack and followup. What the f*** can I do in this situation?

Don't get hit? If you're in that situation, it's either 1) guess right and MK gets to reset spacing or 2) guess wrong and eat damage.

Not much you can do except outplay your opponent.

 

[hdrevolution123]

Don't get hit? If you're in that situation, it's either 1) guess right and MK gets to reset spacing or 2) guess wrong and eat damage.

Not much you can do except outplay your opponent.

How'd you outplay the opponent?

 

[Zhamy]

How'd you outplay the opponent?

That's like asking "How do I get better at this game?" Intelligent practice.

 

[hdrevolution123]

That's like asking "How do I get better at this game?" Intelligent practice.

Sorry but how do you practice intelligently? What must we be aware of whilst practicing?

 

[JigglyZelda003]

How do I deal with this situation?

An aggressive Meta Knight just happened to have landed on my face and is just waiting to do whatever attack which outprioritizes mine with Fox. How can I somehow predict his next move so he can't punish me cos if I spotdodge he'll attack me from there, if I shield he'll grab me and if I roll he dash attack and followup. What the f*** can I do in this situation?

ever tried running or jumping away? or even go for a grab, and if he attacks maybe grab armor can save you

other than that listen to Zhamy.

Sorry but how do you practice intelligently? What must we be aware of whilst practicing?

patterns and habits, openings, making traps, moar mindgames that work...
its something you learn over time. there are some guides in the tactical board to help on getting stated at that.

 

[KheldarVII]

How do I deal with this situation?

An aggressive Meta Knight just happened to have landed on my face and is just waiting to do whatever attack which outprioritizes mine with Fox. How can I somehow predict his next move so he can't punish me cos if I spotdodge he'll attack me from there, if I shield he'll grab me and if I roll he dash attack and followup. What the f*** can I do in this situation?

Hardcore prediction reading abilities if you want to follow up with your playstyle. However, it seems like you're getting close too much and being put in unfavorited situations which result in a loss of options or ability. What you could try is playing a more long-range battle for a bit and try to find the position in which the MK is actually playing awkwardly. Usually aggression means less shielding and dodging so find your openings and see if you can land those frame traps.

A well-placed Illusion is one of the best ways to throw off opponent readers. It puts in their mind that you might try one and they'll actually reset your spacing for you and move away at illusion distances. When you see it, you're free to act upon free mobility for a short time. If things also get very complicated at slightly longer tip'd sword distances, you can always illusion away instead. Don't do it too often and make sure you hit the ground quick as MK can easily chase after Fox's illusion.

Basically, short answer to your first situation question is... don't get in that situation anymore.

 

[SnowballBob33]

Basically, short answer to your first situation question is... don't get in that situation anymore.

i think thats horrible adivce. the whole point was to know what to do. nobody asks to be in something like that, he just wants sum answers in case it does happen.

I would probably just run away from mk to the ledge becuz ur faster than him, and if he chases u, then fall off the edge and illusion back on the stage. If he doesnt chase u then ur out of the situation. Just dont do it too much or it gets predictable.

If hes expecting you to attack, that means u are bein too offensive in ur play style and ur being predictable. Run up and grab him if u feel he is just shield grabbing all of ur approaches.

 

[Sukai]

Any attack can knock Wario off a bike.

As long as you hit Wario's body and not his bike.
Just something to add in for extra clarity.

moar mindgames that work...

Thats pretty much all he needs.
I'm assuming he's a mobile target, all he needs there is to psyche his opponent out a few times.
He reached a learning curve, just haven't found out yet.

 

[hdrevolution123]

i think thats horrible adivce. the whole point was to know what to do. nobody asks to be in something like that, he just wants sum answers in case it does happen.

I would probably just run away from mk to the ledge becuz ur faster than him, and if he chases u, then fall off the edge and illusion back on the stage. If he doesnt chase u then ur out of the situation. Just dont do it too much or it gets predictable.

If hes expecting you to attack, that means u are bein too offensive in ur play style and ur being predictable. Run up and grab him if u feel he is just shield grabbing all of ur approaches.

Thank you. That's proper advice. I'll try that and also try to avoid the situation anyway. Thanks

 

[Cyndi]

Wow, way to go off-topic.

 

[hdrevolution123]

Wow, way to go off-topic.

Who, me? How did I go off-topic?

 

[KheldarVII]

There is no specific topic here.

 

[Zhamy]

New topic: Why does Kheldar suck so much? Discuss.

More seriously, though, this a "zomg wut do I do when my opponent does ____" thread. Or a "how do I capitalize on ____" thread.

 

[Conviction]

Sorry for this nerco but I think we could use this thread again.

 

[Zhamy]

I suggest you make a new one, ask for a lock, and link to this old thread in the new one.

Mostly because a lot of the info is outdated now.

 

[Conviction]

Yea ok. Sauce Daddy mind closing this?

 

[Sosuke]

No problem.