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Houston Thread - No HOBOs and no WHOBOs. What do we do now??????????????????????????????????????????

What side event should i include in my tournaments?


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Lol well still. I haven't had alot of MK practice lately since Sean quit him. He always made it a point to come play me. I haven't played another MK since Genesis. I wish Active Gamers and this was switched around. I could use that practice.
 

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That's impossible, Inui, I always get Dojo second round or third, so you should be safe.
wtf

Is bad seeding just that common in TX? I noticed it at WHOBO, especially in doubles. Tyrant was seeded like crap in singles for some reason, too. >_>;

Like, I saw no reason for me to fight rank 6 in TX when I'm seeded highly in a strong region myself (4th in NJ) in a spot where the loser is only guaranteed 17th, with the winner of us facing seed 1 where only 9th is guaranteed. It seemed wrong. Before you, I had Broly, and I'm pretty sure he's not nobody LOL...and he was my second opponent. ~_~
 

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We'll see if the seeding is right at Hobo 19. :)
 

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wtf

Is bad seeding just that common in TX? I noticed it at WHOBO, especially in doubles. Tyrant was seeded like crap in singles for some reason, too. >_>;

Like, I saw no reason for me to fight rank 6 in TX when I'm seeded highly in a strong region myself (4th in NJ) in a spot where the loser is only guaranteed 17th, with the winner of us facing seed 1 where only 9th is guaranteed. It seemed wrong. Before you, I had Broly, and I'm pretty sure he's not nobody LOL...and he was my second opponent. ~_~
Dude, Broly is bad! He runs into U-tilts in Halberd with no intention to shield.... lolololol
 

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wtf

Is bad seeding just that common in TX? I noticed it at WHOBO, especially in doubles. Tyrant was seeded like crap in singles for some reason, too. >_>;

Like, I saw no reason for me to fight rank 6 in TX when I'm seeded highly in a strong region myself (4th in NJ) in a spot where the loser is only guaranteed 17th, with the winner of us facing seed 1 where only 9th is guaranteed. It seemed wrong. Before you, I had Broly, and I'm pretty sure he's not nobody LOL...and he was my second opponent. ~_~
How dare you. Your seeding was perfectly fine, I moved you to an easier bracket like 2 times. You played PX in the THIRD ROUND of winners. I'm sorry if you're used to easy brackets, but no bracket is easy here, everyone is playing someone ranked by third round, most even by round 2. Broly was ranked 15th. I should of just left you to fight razer round 3 so you would actually have something to complain about.

I would of loved your bracket Inui. I made sure the seeding was fair for everyone, and it was. Several people checked the brackets. Sorry our region is so strong.
 

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Tx seeding is terrible but tyrant was nowhere as good as he is now then at whobo
Tyrant was still 4th in SoCal at the time and got 2nd in doubles. His seed was not correct.

Dude, Broly is bad! He runs into U-tilts in Halberd with no intention to shield.... lolololol
After I beat him, he beat four people in order to get 9th. He always does well. >_>;

How dare you. Your seeding was perfectly fine, I moved you to an easier bracket like 2 times. You played PX in the THIRD ROUND of winners. I'm sorry if you're used to easy brackets, but no bracket is easy here, everyone is playing someone ranked by third round, most even by round 2. Broly was ranked 15th. I should of just left you to fight razer round 3 so you would actually have something to complain about.

I would of loved your bracket Inui. I made sure the seeding was fair for everyone, and it was. Several people checked the brackets. Sorry our region is so strong.
Playing PX (rank 6) in the third round of winners when I am ranked 4th in a strong region and the winner of us plays seed 1...is not correct.

I will prove the bracket was seeded poorly.

Inui's performance said:
Winners' bracket
Bye
Defeated Vickey
Defeated Broly
Lost to PhantomX
Hylian's performance said:
Winners' bracket
Bye
Defeated Echo
Defeated Zyrus
Lost to Ice
Your bracket was significantly easier despite me obviously deserving a higher seed.

Kates's performance said:
Winners' bracket
Bye
Defeated JUJ
Defeated Smoooooooooooom
Lost to Fogo
^ Also seeded better than me for no reason.

Hyro's performance said:
Winners' bracket
Bye
Defeated Magik
Lost to UTD Zac
So, Hyro vs UTD Zac occured in the same spot as Kates vs Smoom.


The seeding was terrible. I'm not used to easy brackets. I'm used to good seeding, something I've yet to experience in TX.
 

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Tx seeding is terrible but tyrant was nowhere as good as he is now then at whobo
Also you guys need to cut Xyro or RT or whoever does the brackets some slack. It's a lot harder than it sounds and looks. Heck, he has to deal with 60-100 people in a bracket EVERY tournament and make sure as many of those as possible have a good bracket. It is NOT easy making that many people happy when everyone can have a hundred complaints. The truth is to win first you should be able to beat everyone in the tournament. If you are top 5 then you should be able to beat the other 95 people. Yeah I'm not a top player or a PR player but I've had my share of "bad" brackets (having to play my crew right off the bat) etc, and not once have I complained.

The truth is, this is a tournament, and all is fair play. If you win, you win. If you lose, you lose.
 

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wtf

Is bad seeding just that common in TX? I noticed it at WHOBO, especially in doubles. Tyrant was seeded like crap in singles for some reason, too. >_>;

Like, I saw no reason for me to fight rank 6 in TX when I'm seeded highly in a strong region myself (4th in NJ) in a spot where the loser is only guaranteed 17th, with the winner of us facing seed 1 where only 9th is guaranteed. It seemed wrong. Before you, I had Broly, and I'm pretty sure he's not nobody LOL...and he was my second opponent. ~_~
Lol get used to it.

At Hobo 16 I had PX 2nd round followed by Razer 3rd round.
At Hobo 17 I had Zac 2nd round followed by Razer 3rd round.

Wtf?

Tyrant didn't have it that bad at Whobo. I just ***** him in both brackets. :)
 

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chachaharacha inui said:
After I beat him, he beat four people in order to get 9th. He always does well. >_>;
I know lol, I watched all of Broly's matches. He is after all one of my best friends and crew members. We just like making fun of him every once in a while for his silly mistakes. :p

Hey remember Vickey the Kirby you played in round 1? That's my brother, he said he had a really good set with you and wants a rematch possibly in the form of a 1 dollar MM or so.
 

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My bracket at hobo 17 was crazy.

Winners: Duffman first round, then Razer.

Losers:

To get first place I would of had to beat:

Broly, UTD Zac, Roy_R, Dojo, MikeHaze, Fliphop, Gnez, Razer.

;_:.
 

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Ugh...

Inui at Whobo i played many people before u, dont act like we had to play first round or something(oopps...thought u were talking about this...disregard). Second, tyrant was not that good back then. MY MK was beating him in doubles back then, to the point where DSF told him to get on the ledge and that he would take me.

Ive noticed the pattern of seeding(at least Texas goes like this). At HOBO 18 we had 4 high priority seeds, Me/Razer/Zac/Flip. Everyone else was then nitpicked so they wouldnt have to play people in their city, people they play often, etc. in the first round/second round. Also we took care of special request like Inui, who was initially placed in Razers bracket(they would have played in winners quarters or something like that.) Its hard to please everyone.

Plus its kind of difficult when everyone and there mom wants changes made here and there, to's rushing, god...

Ive mean ive had bad brackets too...Oh SNAP i got wonderful Dojo 3rd round...who then proceded after 2-0ing me to playing jerm. Im pretty sure im ranked higher than jerm(who played UTD Zac for that spot)...
 

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I've only done seeding at two Hobos, and those two practically no one complained. I did pools at Hobo 17 or whatever one had pools that was recent, and more people complained about bracket than pools for that one. I'll try to help with seeding at Hobo 19. Since I won't be entering, I have no need for bias, lol. :)
 

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Lol get used to it.

At Hobo 16 I had PX 2nd round followed by Razer 3rd round.
At Hobo 17 I had Zac 2nd round followed by Razer 3rd round.

Wtf?

Tyrant didn't have it that bad at Whobo. I just ***** him in both brackets. :)
Tyrant's performance
Winners' bracket
Bye
Defeated jnewpo@yahoo.com
Defeated phantomx
Lost to Dojo

Losers' bracket
Defeated UtdZac
Defeated Hylian
Defeated RoyR
Defeated THE REAL DOMO
Lost to Dojo


Overall placing: 5/70

Sorry, but 4th in SoCal after getting 2nd in doubles shouldn't have to go through that to get 5th and they shouldn't fight a top 3 seed that early. All of his wins in losers prove he was seeded incorrectly.

Hey remember Vickey the Kirby you played in round 1? That's my brother, he said he had a really good set with you and wants a rematch possibly in the form of a 1 dollar MM or so.
Absolutely not. He was extremely campy and the set was incredibly boring. $1 is not worth that frustration.

Well it happens when Texas has 5003590139579138591385901839058 good players. lol
Sorry, but I just factually proved that the seeding was just crappy. Look at my edit.

Inui at Whobo i played many people before u, dont act like we had to play first round or something(oopps...thought u were talking about this...disregard). Second, tyrant was not that good back then. MY MK was beating him in doubles back then, to the point where DSF told him to get on the ledge and that he would take me.
Gnes's performance
Winners' bracket
Bye
Defeated KPrime
Lost to Inui

You played ONE person before me.

Why are you people spewing nonsense so much? Consult the facts first. You are all wrong when you look at the facts.

TX sucks at seeding. Face it. Learn from it. Get better at it.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8454293&postcount=38607

LOOK AT THE BRACKETS. CLEARLY AWFUL. I DON'T NEED TO EVEN DEBATE ABOUT IT; THE BRACKET ALONE PROVES THAT THE BRACKET SUCKED.
 

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Inui, it's" FACE IT!" or" ACCEPT IT!" You have to include all caps, or you're doing it wrong.
 

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lol is it just me or is inui the biggest homo ever? i'm extremely happy i don't play this game
 

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No one has said tx is good at seeding inui, you might want to read the thread before bashing people needlessly.
 

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inui, i have a seed for you lolololol

i think i'm gonna go ahead and win melee at hobo and take a fat dump on brawl if thats cool with everybody
 

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Yeah Inui, I'm not going to Hobo19...

:/

Gnes, you can probably stop by. We'll live with another person, lol.

Edit: Is footstooling have any variables attached to it causing the length to last longer? Percentage? Fast fall speed? Weight?
 

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No one has said tx is good at seeding inui, you might want to read the thread before bashing people needlessly.

Hobo18 was seeded fine btw. I can't speak for the other tournaments because I didn't seed them.
How can you possibly say it was seeded fine after I just proved the seeding was downright terrible?

Kates vs Smoom in the same spot as UTD Zac vs Hyro.

You and Kates having better seeds than me.

I mean, I could go on. Just looking at the bracket proves it was horrendous. You can't defend that bracket. I will show more instances of failure seeding if you really need it. I figured those glaring errors would be enough, but I guess not...
 

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They aren't, show me more. :D
Failed trolling. I know it was enough. You're not idiots. Hylian is just defending his bracket and his region because I "insulted" them. The bracket was clearly very messed up. The event was fun and I had a good time, but the seeding was off.

I think I should help with the seeding next time. I know enough about the scene to make decent judgments and I almost never get complaints about my seeding here.
 

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why do people even argue about seeding? at least it isn't completely random, like it should be. who said tournament organizers have to cater to ungrateful douchebags like inui, just so they don't have to play anybody hard too early?

i think it'd be funny if from now on texas organizers purposely gave inui horrible seeding just for ****s and gigs lolol
 

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why do people even argue about seeding? at least it isn't completely random, like it should be. who said tournament organizers have to cater to ungrateful douchebags like inui, just so they don't have to play anybody hard too early?
You have no idea what you're talking about. Seeding should never be random. Seeding should be done fairly.

Ugh, why am I even addressing someone of your status... Waste of my time.
 

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Using hyperbole's does not make your argument more solid.
As i said before...we did not seed u to the inner workings of your bracket but the outerworkings. Thats pretty much what we did with everyone. Of course there's a more effective way of seeding, but Xyro/Dugfinn needed it to be done quick, so we did.

Seeding was not that bad, you are the only one who complained.

Also if u knew alot about the scene u would realize Kates is a ZSS GOD codename SNAKE EATER and Smoom is the next Lain.

Im Done Here.
 

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How can you possibly say it was seeded fine after I just proved the seeding was downright terrible?

Kates vs Smoom in the same spot as UTD Zac vs Hyro.

You and Kates having better seeds than me.

I mean, I could go on. Just looking at the bracket proves it was horrendous. You can't defend that bracket. I will show more instances of failure seeding if you really need it. I figured those glaring errors would be enough, but I guess not...
The seeding wasn't perfect, but no upsets happened because of it. We just moved problematic match-ups away from each other. Like moving you away from Razer. And I was supposed to be playing Flip IIRC but Fogo beat him.

I still would of rather had your bracket lol. Olimar/Rob/Snake made my IC's sad :/.
 

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Using hyperbole's does not make your argument more solid.
As i said before...we did not seed u to the inner workings of your bracket but the outerworkings. Thats pretty much what we did with everyone. Of course there's a more effective way of seeding, but Xyro/Dugfinn needed it to be done quick, so we did.

Seeding was not that bad, you are the only one who complained.
Hyperbole's? I merely showed you the brackets. I proved you wrong. YOU ARE WRONG, THE FACTS SAY SO. LOOK AT THE BRACKET.

Why are you ignoring reality? The bracket was NOT fine. LOOK AT IT. I proved it!

The seeding wasn't perfect, but no upsets happened because of it. We just moved problematic match-ups away from each other. Like moving you away from Razer. And I was supposed to be playing Flip IIRC but Fogo beat him.

I still would of rather had your bracket lol. Olimar/Rob/Snake made my IC's sad :/.
The seeding wasn't just not perfect...it was straight up bad. Go look at the bracket on AiB. Look at the stuff I just proved. Why are you ignoring it?

I would have rather had yours, because it was easier, because you were seeded better than me for some reason.
 

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Absolutely not. He was extremely campy and the set was incredibly boring. $1 is not worth that frustration.

How was he extremely campy? Do you mean B-air camping? He does that lol.


He had a pretty hard bracket (you first round, 1st round loser's Trela), but he said he wanted to play you again, lol.
 

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Inui, when have you ever beaten me in tournament?

You also refused to money match me. I asked you several time.

I don't see how you can acknowledge yourself as a better player than me when we have only played once in tournament. I won. You don't even accept MM's from me.
 

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someone of my status? do i not have enough posts to talk to someone as huge of a loser as you?

i think random seeding would be awesome in a world where people didn't expect hand outs and crybabies didn't have diapers overflowing with poopiez
 

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Inui, when have you ever beaten me in tournament?
Hylian, when have you ever been ranked nearly as well as me or scored massive amounts of cash at huge events like me?

http://allisbrawl.com/medals.aspx?id=4424

You're pretty good, but you ain't better than me, son. You don't have the accomplishments. You beat me at WHOBO and that's it.

If you really think you deserve a higher seed than me... Well, I was going to say "you are deluded" but you obviously are if you think that bracket wasn't messed up, so nevermind.

You also refused to money match me. I asked you several time.

I don't see how you can acknowledge yourself as a better player than me when we have only played once in tournament. I won. You don't even accept MM's from me.
FAST: I beat you.
MM before WHOBO with my Snake: I beat you.
Every teams set and every event in teams including when you had Dojo: Got wrecked by me and/or outplaced by a lot.

Stow your nonsense. I almost always outperform you and win way more money.

12th in TX is not > 4th in NJ when the states are about equal in strength.
 

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Hylian, when have you ever been ranked nearly as well as me or scored massive amounts of cash at huge events like me?

http://allisbrawl.com/medals.aspx?id=4424

You're pretty good, but you ain't better than me, son. You don't have the accomplishments. You beat me at WHOBO and that's it.
*shrugs*

I've been ranked 4th in texas before. Then texas got good lol. I've also won close to 3k from tournaments.

I don't care about rankings in the slightest however. I just want you to MM me.
 

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inui didn't you get beat by jake at melee and also johned about accomplishments or some bull****? if you're so good, why do people who are apparently worse than you, keep beating you? typical poopie diaper crybaby bull****
 
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