Houston Thread - No HOBOs and no WHOBOs. What do we do now??????????????????????????????????????????

[Xyro77]

I can assure you that MK isn't some broken force of death in doubles. I don't even think he's the best character in doubles. I find Game and Watch and Wario to be superior. Meta Knight doesn't even dominate teams AT ALL in your area. UTD Zac dominates teams.

You can trust me about doubles, dude.

Anyways, I'm definitely going to this. I'll be flying in about a week early and I'll be staying with DugFinn (<3<3<3<3<3<3) the whole time.

Sadly, I'm unsure about Atomsk. I'll know by this weekend.

if he cant go, bring some one else!!!!!! You EC guys are aways welcome(especially if you are anti-ban)

 

[Inui]

if he cant go, bring some one else!!!!!! You EC guys are aways welcome(especially if you are anti-ban)

rofl

I can't just "bring" someone when everyone is either broke or a little kid.

I NEEEEEEED to win doubles. I need Atomsk to go or for UTD Zac to team with me.

 

[Xyro77]

rofl

I can't just "bring" someone when everyone is either broke or a little kid.

I NEEEEEEED to win doubles. I need Atomsk to go or for UTD Zac to team with me.

Ask UTD right now before people steal him

 

[UTDZac]

I NEEEEEEED to win doubles. I need Atomsk to go or for UTD Zac to team with me.

Ask UTD right now before people steal him

Completely relevant response below:

 

[Broly]

ehh, i really dont think wario/gw is the best. its true that team won, but if mk was in this dbls tourny, lee m n utd would not have won. mk harasses characters with tornado, can gimp characters at low damage, and shuttle loop is prolly the best recovery move. i GUARANTEE an mk will win doubles in hobo 18. gw and wario are great doubles characters, but they each need an mk to win. which means mk is the best doubles character

 

[UTDZac]

If MK was in doubles, Lee Martin would have been using him. And you know how well I do with MK on my team.

 

[Xyro77]

After banning metaknight, i feel more stages should be open for the RANDOM option and the CP option Or maybe we should add more stages for 1vs1 and not 2vs2(or vice versa). Though i am a tyrant(not really) i will allow you guys to decide which stages make it and which wont. But in order to do that i would LOVE for you to take the stage you feel SHOULD/SHOULD NOT be allowed and go into DETAIL of WHY you think the way you do.

Here is the current CP and RANDOM list:

Random/neutral: Smashville, Final Destination, Battlefield, Yoshi Story, Pokemon Stadium 1

Counter-pick: Brinstar, Delfino, Frigate Orpheon, Jungle Japes, Pictochat, Pokémon Stadium 2, Rainbow Cruise, Castle Siege, Halberd, Lylat Cruise, Norfair, Luigis Mansion


Now, please look at these^ and decide what to add/remove to either CP or RANDOM. If there is a stage you want to add to 2vs2 but not 1vs1, tell me why and allow the others to talk about it. Below is the ONLY stage i will allow to be added. Oh and when talking about these stages, please consider OTHERS and not just yourself.

Distant Planet
Green Greens
Yoshi's Island [Melee]
Port Town Aero Dive
Corneria
Onett
Sky world
Green Hill Zone

Depending on the speed of this chat, i may activate this at hobo18 or wait till hobo19(this seems to be the best option)

 

[Broly]

i seriously feel corneria wasnt ever a banworthy stage. its even a good cp against mk. id vote corneria back. was in melee, should be in brawl
EDIT 4 got to explain. Corneria has a good layout with either side. there is a wall which can be harmful to characters against ddd, but a rule on infinite cgs there can eliminate that problem. the stages does not cause major interupttions such as norfair and is a good cp for characters with a good vertical ko such as snake, fox, gw, and pikachu

and i 4got lee martin had an mk. but then again it goes with what i said, mk is needed for both characters

 

[Magik0722]

That ledge on the wing is too broken for plankers, if you couldnt grab onto that ledge it would be a great stage


Still i think it should be legal in doubles, you can just ignore the planker and go for the other team mate, and wall infinites arent a big deal when you parthner can save you

 

[Gea]

I sense drama coming. But I'd like to say there is really no reason to ban Distant Planet besides "I don't like it."

Still, if I wanted one of those back I'd take GGs.

 

[Magik0722]

I would like green hill zone back but for purely selfish reason

no ivy gimps for me

 

[Broly]

yea you do know theres a 55 ledge grab limit right? planking is getting controlled.

 

[Magik0722]

still the plankers often get alot of free damage doing that

 

[Player-4]

GW is scary on Corneria

dtilt locks
low ceiling for early up-smash and dsmash KOs
not to mention how good his bucket is here

 

[Magik0722]

Yeah itll make GaW even more deadly in teams


but lucas can also shine


i remember in a dallas tournament i had a match of Lucas, Lucas vs Lucas, GaW and it was awesome

 

[Broly]

snake is way better than gw there, but gw is a beast.

 

[Magik0722]

Its still a great GaW stage, and i was talking about doubles mainly

 

[Gea]

As much as I love Corneria (really I do) Marth is probably the reason why it would be iffy to allow. I cite Dphat v Fliphop for that one.

Oh but its totally cool for doubles.

 

[UTDZac]

Corneria should never be legal in brawl. It doesn't fit. There are too many problems with too many characters.

Sky World should never be legal either. With the lack of solid ground to stand on half the time, this changes how you have to play your character. Also the platforms on either end create easy gimping scenarios for a lot of characters. Basically this stage comes down to "whoever has more knowledge of the stupid tricks you can do on it" wins.

 

[RT]

They had to remake Corneria instead of keeping it the way it was in Melee. But then again, this game promotes dumb stuff that never happened in Melee and lots of characters can abuse the stage for stupid reasons.

 

[Kingdom Come]

I can assure you that MK isn't some broken force of death in doubles. I don't even think he's the best character in doubles. I find Game and Watch and Wario to be superior. Meta Knight doesn't even dominate teams AT ALL in your area. UTD Zac dominates teams.

You can trust me about doubles, dude.

Anyways, I'm definitely going to this. I'll be flying in about a week early and I'll be staying with DugFinn (<3<3<3<3<3<3) the whole time.

Sadly, I'm unsure about Atomsk. I'll know by this weekend.

I didn't say MK would dominate, I just hate when people don't know how to play and grab MK and just play the whorenado spam game. It's harder to stop in teams imo. Shoot I even do it <_<.

as for the stages

Distant Planet-I don't see anything wrong, but the rain could screw someone over. Seems fine
Green Greens- Yes!!!! RT HATES GREEN GREENS!!!!!!!
Yoshi's Island [Melee]-Walk off, so I would say it's a 50-50 guess
Port Town Aero Dive- I don't really have a problem, I could use this as a Ganon CP
Corneria- HEEEEEEELLLLL NOOOOOOOO!!!!! The blast zones are UGH, and G&W can do that gay bucket sht.
Onett-Too small imo
Sky world-The stage is always helping whoever is on the offensive. It's just like Weegee's mansion I don't like it.
Green Hill Zone- Another 50-50, it helps Ivies and Ikes, but it's a walk off so expect DDDs.

That's my 50 cents

 

[KRDsonic]

My Ice Climbers and Dedede would love for Green Hill Zone to be legal. With that said, I believe it should be banned... though I guess you could also argue about chain grabbers taking advantage of the walkoffs in Castle Seige, and Green Hill Zone does have that dip in the middle which messes up most chain grabs (D3 can't chain grab going down a slop that steep). I guess I've kind of flipped sides... Green Hill Zone could possibly be legal even though it promotes campiness (though we also have Norfair doing that too). Hmm...

As far as the other stages, I won't say much about them because I don't have much experience on them so I wouldn't know what all goes on on them.

 

[Kingdom Come]

Planet Zero Anime Center‎
11920 Westheimer Rd, Houston, TX 77077

Is that the correct address, sorry I couldn't find it in the first post.

 

[Xyro77]

Planet Zero Anime Center‎
11920 Westheimer Rd, Houston, TX 77077

Is that the correct address, sorry I couldn't find it in the first post.

correct. i was gonna update later but i guess now is the time!!!!

 

[Smoom77]

I'm a bit confused, in google maps, there's two that show up. This is planet zero one the one off of beltway 8? And there's one on the east side of houston too.

 

[heytallman]

Smoom, this is the one *kinda* near beltway 8. It is definitely not in east Houston.

 

[Smoom77]

Ok, good...that one in EHouston is so far away. x.x

 

[Kingdom Come]

Lol, he put the address in the first post now I believe.

BTW Smoom do you still need wi-fi friendlies?

 

[Smoom77]

I played some with Magik, but if you want to now I can. I dunno if you play B+ or BB, I'll play those too.

Do you have AIM?

 

[Kingdom Come]

Yea, whats your account name?

kingdomcome00@live.com I use it for aim also

 

[Smoom77]

Smoomier, I'll meet you online.

So you don't use MSN? I use MSN too, lol.

 

[Airbrush_King]

Fliphoper- Its MARVELL BAYBYEE! I dont think you ready to see this. Look at that last match. WTF happened. PERFECTED BABYEEE-->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGpU72dbyxs

Test Your Skills 4 will be nasty! Somebody getting GIEF-ED!

 

[Xyro77]

some one play me on so wifi!!!!!!!

 

[Airbrush_King]

some one play me on so wifi!!!!!!!

http://gamebattles.com/thirdParty/sponsors/bic/ssbb/

 

[Xyro77]

oh yea, i forgot about GBs. hmmmmmm

 

[Smoom77]

Xyro, we can play later if you want when we two are done.

Btw, ladder stink. Most of the time, the people don't even talk to you, and they aren't even there to tell you the ban/CP. I hate um.

 

[Kingdom Come]

Xyro, I wanna play you!

I'm not like Dalub though, or any other Toon Link player for that matter.

 

[Inui]

ehh, i really dont think wario/gw is the best. its true that team won, but if mk was in this dbls tourny, lee m n utd would not have won. mk harasses characters with tornado, can gimp characters at low damage, and shuttle loop is prolly the best recovery move. i GUARANTEE an mk will win doubles in hobo 18. gw and wario are great doubles characters, but they each need an mk to win. which means mk is the best doubles character

You're wrong. UTD Zac would win doubles regardless.

I can gaurantee an MK is winning doubles at HOBO 18, too.

I'm going.

Game and Watch and Wario do not require an MK to win.

Leave the doubles theory to those that are Gods in that area, please.

After banning metaknight, i feel more stages should be open for the RANDOM option and the CP option Or maybe we should add more stages for 1vs1 and not 2vs2(or vice versa). Though i am a tyrant(not really) i will allow you guys to decide which stages make it and which wont. But in order to do that i would LOVE for you to take the stage you feel SHOULD/SHOULD NOT be allowed and go into DETAIL of WHY you think the way you do.

Here is the current CP and RANDOM list:

Random/neutral: Smashville, Final Destination, Battlefield, Yoshi Story, Pokemon Stadium 1

Counter-pick: Brinstar, Delfino, Frigate Orpheon, Jungle Japes, Pictochat, Pokémon Stadium 2, Rainbow Cruise, Castle Siege, Halberd, Lylat Cruise, Norfair, Luigis Mansion


Now, please look at these^ and decide what to add/remove to either CP or RANDOM. If there is a stage you want to add to 2vs2 but not 1vs1, tell me why and allow the others to talk about it. Below is the ONLY stage i will allow to be added. Oh and when talking about these stages, please consider OTHERS and not just yourself.

Distant Planet
Green Greens
Yoshi's Island [Melee]
Port Town Aero Dive
Corneria
Onett
Sky world
Green Hill Zone

Depending on the speed of this chat, i may activate this at hobo18 or wait till hobo19(this seems to be the best option)

I extremely strongly disagree with the changing of any stage rules.

 

[UltimateRazer]

^ This. I thought we already voted when you banned MK for HOBO 18...like it was set in stone.

<__<.

 

[Inui]

^ This. I thought we already voted when you banned MK for HOBO 18...like it was set in stone.

<__<.

What exactly are you responding to? If you think MK is too good in doubles, I'll be happy to crush that fantasy with logic and facts.