Houston Thread - No HOBOs and no WHOBOs. What do we do now??????????????????????????????????????????

[Player-4]

I'll go to Ozzfest's and tournaments with mk, but I'm not going to another tournament with him banned.

10sad face

 

[Popertop]

these metaknight banned tourneys aren't going to get any recognition

 

[Esca]

There's no reason MK should be banned. The only people that are avid "Letz b@/\/ MKay OMG" are people that would do no better anyways.

It's getting a bit ridiculous. Just play the game.

 

[pianodude700]

these metaknight banned tourneys aren't going to get any recognition

He's right, Allan. I'll come anyway because I haven't been to one in a long time, but honestly, if you want the important people to show up, you have to include him.

Yes, your vision was to expand the game to more people. Yes, brawl helps that a lot. Yes, banning meta is a logical step. But it's definitely not what's going to attract respect for us as a community or a real challenge.

However, since very little others have stepped up to hold tournaments of comparable magnitude to yours I guess we have to accept it

 

[RT]

Looks like Allan has been banned again, so yeah...lolz.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

ozzfest = meta is legal until the SBR bans him.

i want to play on friday.. anyone

 

[Morningstar]

Looks like Allan has been banned again, so yeah...lolz.

Lol wut?

Are we ever going to get full FS6 results?

San Antonio thread is dead so I'mma migrate over here for a bit.

MK is gay, but I don't think he should be banned. He can be beaten, has even matchups, etc. I'm preaching to the choir on this, I know. I also know my opinion won't change anyone else's.

How's H-Town doing on this fair Monday afternoon?

 

[Fliphopper]

Fliphop is using MK

 

[Popertop]

I wanna play sometime this week

when are people going to Gea's?

 

[RT]

Allan has the full results, so he'll send them to King Mosquito eventually...

Only Gea can decide when to go to Gea's house. That's the Gea way.

 

[pianodude700]

I haven't played with any of ya'll in probably a good half year at least. I'm down for some smash for sure.

Given it's near Manvel of course :D

 

[Suspect]

Instead of banning mk which i dont think should even be banned now

how about fixing other stuff like...

That ledge grab limit

IC's grabs/wobbles/whatever the **** you wanna call them

Stage list

Stage rules (like 2 strikes for bans)

maybe even the time limit, idk

just food for thought

 

[heytallman]

Instead of banning mk which i dont think should even be banned now

how about fixing other stuff like...

That ledge grab limit

This should be a rule. If I ever held a tournament it would be 56 grabs for every character.

IC's grabs/wobbles/whatever the **** you wanna call them

Don't get grabbed.

Stage list

Stage list is fine to me.

Stage rules (like 2 strikes for bans)

lolno

maybe even the time limit, idk

8 minutes is fine. But really matches could be easily finished in 7 or less. Just don't make it 10 like the Japanese. Do you really wanna be stalled against for that long?

 

[Suspect]

That "dont get grabbed" thing is dumb...

i think neutral could be just somewhat fix'd maybe just 3 stages

and i dont want the time longer...shorter

 

[RT]

Neutral stages isn't a problem. It gives more choices for other characters. Besides, there's always a 20% your opponent will strike a stage you don't want to start on anyways.

 

[Trela]

Allan's crucial plan do get MK banned is now in effect.

I think it'll work. :D

 

[RT]

He's banned, so he'll be on VACATION for a while.

 

[Vorguen]

Change of plans, I will be making HOBO 17!

:D

 

[Esca]

No it isn't and it won't.

If anyone has been paying attention at all to anything Xyro tries to rectify, or resolve, he gets laughed at by the top players, or anyone with recognition. Everything he supports is biased.

Heres your options:

1. Pick MK.

2. Pick a char and find an anti-mk strategy.

3. Quit.

 

[Trela]

He's banned, so he'll be on VACATION for a while.

LOL that'll never get old.

DEAR GOD.

 

[Suspect]

since people tell me "dont get grabbed"

im gonna tell the mk haters to "dont get hit"

yea that works

 

[Vorguen]

Suspect GTFO to Brownsville nao.

Also Vickey's Kirby is ****** watch out for next tourney.

 

[Player-4]

I agree with you Suspect. If MK gone then they better get rid of the ICs infinite.

Also why is the ICs infinite legal but D3 isn't?

 

[UltimateRazer]

Suspect, I'm not saying don't get grabbed but just find Hylian's old post on it and ask him for it.

I can never get around it...

Edit: P4. The IC's grab is not always present and can easily be messed up. Just seperate nana and it is gone for good.

D3's is always present and not very difficult to do and thus turns those 5 match ups into a 90-10 match up.

 

[Suspect]

Im just gonna watch those Dphat vids

 

[Popertop]

I agree with you Suspect. If MK gone then they better get rid of the ICs infinite.

Also why is the ICs infinite legal but D3 isn't?

D3 is too easy

IC takes a lot of work

 

[Player-4]

Its still an infinite. That part doesn't change.

 

[UltimateRazer]

Its still an infinite. That part doesn't change.

But its not always present. That part always change.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

falcon has infinites, are those banned? no, cause they take skill just like ICies. D3 takes no skill

 

[RT]

ICs you have to actually learn how to time the grabs based on each individual's weight and know how to do it. And they can always mess up. Separate them and go after the lone CPU-controlled IC while guarding against the player-controlled one. A single IC can't do it. ICs don't render any matchups unplayable...otherwise, all their matchups would be 0-100. And clearly, they aren't.

Dedede...well, you grab, maybe pummel, then regrab. If they mess up on a single button input...they have problems. He makes the characters he can infinite are basically unplayable in the matchup. You can try to bait the grab and then punish, but there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent it, unless like the ICs.

 

[Suspect]

The people that use IC's really good basically can do it easily.

Like P4 said it's still an infinite. Anyone who uses a character that can get infinite by D3 just....DONT GET GRABBED! Like people say about IC's. IC's infinite works on all

All>5

 

[UltimateRazer]

The people that use IC's really good basically can do it easily.

Like P4 said it's still an infinite. Anyone who uses a character that can get infinite by D3 just....DONT GET GRABBED! Like people say about IC's. IC's infinite works on all

All>5

Once again. The IC's infinite isn't always present. So its only infinite unless you don't kill nana which is easy to do since shes stupid.

 

[RT]

Once again. The IC's infinite isn't always present. So its only infinite unless you don't kill nana which is easy to do since shes stupid.

The second ICs is ********. If he/she is near the edge, the second IC will think, "Sweet! A pit!" and jump into it for an SD. <_<

 

[Player-4]

My point is if we're trying to clean up this "gay playing" by banning MK and banning infinities. Why leave some of these legal? You guys say they're hard to pull off or it's not always present. It's still a possibility and a high probability that it will happen (ICs not Falco). So what if D3's infinite isn't hard to do and it's always present? Its limited to 5 characters, and here's an idea PICK A DIFFERENT CHARACTER! ICs can infinite the whole cast. D3 can't.

 

[RT]

Screw it, let's ban all kinds of chaingrabs. Heck, just ban grabs in general. Smash really needs to have a way to instant break out of grabs like other fighting games. :/

 

[Suspect]

does the sbr like MvC2?

 

[shlike]

agree ^^^^^

and no f-smashes either

those suck

 

[gunterrsmash01]

jog your logic is failing hard right now.

fine lets go ahead and legalize wall grab/locks/etc. they aren't always present but can still happen and have a high chance right? its EXACTLY like d3s infinite. /sarcasm. and what if someone who mains luigi wants to go ALL luigi one tourney but comes across a DDD? i rather fight a IC with falcon then fight a DDD with luigi. just because if i get grabbed by IC its my fault for not seperating them, but if i get infinited by D3, its my fault for getting........close to them

 

[RT]

agree ^^^^^

and no f-smashes either

those suck

But..but..fsmashes are my strategy. I'm trash without it. D:

 

[pianodude700]

My point is if we're trying to clean up this "gay playing" by banning MK and banning infinities. Why leave some of these legal? You guys say they're hard to pull off or it's not always present. It's still a possibility and a high probability that it will happen (ICs not Falco). So what if D3's infinite isn't hard to do and it's always present? Its limited to 5 characters, and here's an idea PICK A DIFFERENT CHARACTER! ICs can infinite the whole cast. D3 can't.

Screw it, let's ban all kinds of chaingrabs. Heck, just ban grabs in general. Smash really needs to have a way to instant break out of grabs like other fighting games. :/

The point is that, whether we like it or not ,gay playing is part of the game because the game was designed that way. Banning anything opens the gateway and creates a big, giant, disgusting path for other things to be banned that aren't quite so bad.

You either accept the game as a whole the way it was made or you don't play it. It's really that simple. Anyone trying to make a ridiculous amount of in-betweens just complicates things. If nothing else, for the sake of consistency. It took time, but most people are over tripping. People didn't like that, but they accepted it, because they were OK with the game the way it was made, or they wouldn't be playing it. Meta Knight and chaingrabs/chaingrab infinites are the next step in acceptance.