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Houston Smash Ultimate Thread

Teshie U

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Unless the patch fixes Diddy, Sonic, Ness, and the rest of the spammy hit-confirm based playstyles I wouldn't get my hopes up. I think this game might just be valuing different things than Brawl did (which is fine). People looking at it as "Brawl 2.0" or "Melee 0.5" are setting themselves up for disappointment.

Strong grab follow ups should be limited to characters that have trouble landing grabs or take a notable risk for throwing a grab out. We'd see no complaints of Pacman had strong kill setups from a grab. Its just pretty flawed to give a quick character with a quick grab such powerful options without many drawbacks there. Sonic and Diddy are especially repulsive here because unlike Ness, Luigi and Falcon, they arent dealing with the drawbacks of exploitable recovery, getting juggled or other flaws to have the tables turned on them. They are quick, speedy characters that can apply alot of pressure, and probably shouldn't have been given such powerful throws.

Ideally I would have loved to see Link, Pacman, ganon. zelda all get strong grab games as it would fit with their design and some proper risk/reward. but with so many strange design choices I could talk about shoulds and woulds for ages.
 

Teshie U

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Your a mod?

Anyway thats a good read. Obviously people say those types of things often and people get offended. I see no problem with being a scrub. We don't have to all play for the same reasons. The majority of the community doesn't actually play for the win. We mostly want to win a certain way, with a certain character without betraying the things we love most about Smash (especially here in Houston). You can't be a real hero without some hardship thrown in.

And it wouldn't be a good rags-to-riches story if the hero started off winning and kept winning.

Underdogs and scrubs are my favorite thing about any competition.
 

Knife8193

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Patch probably will affect Link honestly, which is why I'm not too invested in mastering it.

If it hits Link but misses Diddy, that would be really unfair, but I'd get over it I guess.
 

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Patch note changes:

-Diddy gets another banana, we felt one was not enough since some characters can spam projectiles
-Diddy's uair now does 10% more knockback, to prevent early percent chains
-Diddy's fair is now invincible on his legs so he can clank with most projectiles
-Diddy's Rocketbarrel now travels the same distance as in Brawl when uncharged since his recovery is bad
-Diddy's Dtilt now pops them straight up and towards Diddy to set up into uair to enable more combo efficiency

Did I do it right? Is this how you balance a game? I gave good reasons, right?
 
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Knife8193

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That is NOT the kind of hit I meant.

At the same time, I acknowledge that Nintendo is capable of that.
 

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster

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Your a mod?

Anyway thats a good read. Obviously people say those types of things often and people get offended. I see no problem with being a scrub. We don't have to all play for the same reasons. The majority of the community doesn't actually play for the win. We mostly want to win a certain way, with a certain character without betraying the things we love most about Smash (especially here in Houston). You can't be a real hero without some hardship thrown in.

And it wouldn't be a good rags-to-riches story if the hero started off winning and kept winning.

Underdogs and scrubs are my favorite thing about any competition.
Yeah, I'm a mod for the Palutena boards.
 

UltimateRazer

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Thanks for uploading Krebs. Things to help you out for future recording: find a way to record with better quality and find competent commentators.

The videos are in low quality from what I can tell. RT knows how to do high quality stuff. And I wanted to stick knives in my ears when I heard the commentary on my matches lol.
 

TheJerm

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Best character in the game does not mean broken/unbeatable. It's means the character is better at dealing with the metagame than all the other characters.
So you guys want to ban the best character or a unbeatable character?
 

AvoiD

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GreenTurtle. Lol'd.

Krebs, think for commentary you should get people who have a competitive background and either know the player, the character, the matchup, or is lively enough to make the stream entertaining. Appreciate uploading the vids though.
 
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Well, I guess I should start uploading vids then...
 

TheJerm

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The game is barely about to reach half a year and so many of you guys are already trying to ban ****. Boo custom moves gives the game too many options, boo Diddy is too hard to beat, even though you've prlly only lost to Diddy couple of times your selfs or not at all.
Gnes lost to razer's snake for a long ass time and dojo's mk even longer then eventually went on a good streak where neither could beat him. Smash bros is not a balanced fighter, never has been. Some of you are saying , oh look at what fox has done to Melee, even though Marth/Falco won the latest national and Melee still has a jiggs and yoshi placing really well. Annnd the game has been around for a long time, so it's only natural the remaining players gravitate towards who they feel is the best character, even for the simple fact of more knowledge about top level play of the game.
 

Nike.

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Aerolink is a mod.

Tesh is making actual legit posts.

This onion guy likes literally every post in this thread.




The **** happened to us, guys?
 

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Everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.
 
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