Housepets! Mafia - Game Over - Who lived happily ever after in Babylon Gardens?

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

2. Gustave - Defiantly, did well, both scum did actually if you think about who was getting suspicion.

3. John2k4 - Gotta stick out a tad more, also don't sheep.

5. Kantrip - I'm not sure where you were going on D2, tbh. Also don't self hammer it's better to let others make the connections and reads on people.

6. Red Ryu - you suck.

7. T-block - That claim with the crumbs ruined any chance of me thinking you were scum along with your play compared to the others. Gah, your scum play scares me hardcore, you look super townie and then you play it out like you are town with the crumbs with the flavor....gahh....

8. Terywj - Again with sheeping and OMGUS. :/. Your skimming again and it shows.

10. TokyoGamer7 - Try playing in a newbie in DGames before you do this. It'll help a lot.

DtJ Glyphmoney - You nailed scum where people didn't see it at all, no wonder you got shot.

4. JTB - I approve of the gambit, not how ya did it at times, you messed up at moment with the claim and such.

1. Auspher - I can't recall a whole lot, mostly that this is a situation where you should stick out and look.

9. The Paprika Killer - Only thing you did wrong was not crumb your pick before the night phase, but still your play was solid overall you did perfectly fine otherwise.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm a jerk for forgetting this.

Xiivi - Thanks for the set-up, T-Block is right about the role being fair with what it did. Man, I let flavor set-up and speculation get me with this a lot.

Lesson learned.

 

[T-block]

Gustave - my boyyyy <3 you did well... perfect lurking, and you came in when you needed to to gain a town read from pretty much everyone. woulda been cool if you claimed protective at the end, but ah well. it was hella fun playing with you ^^

John2k4 - john john john... you're always going to be an easy mislynch for scum until you start thinking for yourself. there's two things that a townie needs to do at a minimum: provide thoughts and be consistent. then, even if you aren't able to actively find scum, you at least allow others to conclude that you're town. you did better in terms of giving your thoughts, but now you need to do better in staying consistent. evaluate what is being said and don't blindly trust anyone unless you have good reason to... all the contradictions that kantrip ended up pointing out really were pretty scummy, and those contradictions came from you saying one thing, and then agreeing with people after they say the opposite. think before you post and once you come to a conclusion, post it and be able to defend it.

Kantrip - you played really well imo. i didn't actually think there was anything wrong with how you reacted with respect to JTB's lynch. the gambit you pulled on john was actually pretty well thought out, but not well-executed imo... whenever you pull something like that, especially if you're under suspicion, you need to check how people will react to your gambit - whether town can view it as scum motivated and whether scum can twist it to incriminate you. towards the end of D2 you were hella townie though... i was seriously debating whether i would be able to get away with still pushing your lynch.

Red Ryu - i still can't believe you weren't on me after kantrip flipped town. i thought D3 would be me vs you from the start, and i wasn't completely sure what to do when you wanted john/tery lol. i honestly did think you were pretty townie in the early game... shame you let my claim get in the way of the only logical conclusion. tpk would never pick john lol.

Terywj - if i were town, i'd be super annoyed at you for this giving up attitude. if someone pushed you, saying "lynch me, but you're just going to be mad post game" does NOT help town at all. town should not say something like that... it's scum AtE through and through. i know you had no internet and that killed your interest in the game etc etc, but out of respect to the other players, you still shouldn't resort to giving up like that.

TokyoGamer7 - i didn't see much from you =\ i hope your first game was an all right experience at least

DtJ Glyphmoney - i didn't think you were cop haha. cult leader suggested that cop didn't exist, and TG7's entry into D2 told me there was no way he had anything against me. you still had to die though... sorry about killing you after you replaced, but you didn't put much effort into this game anyways, right? =P it was either you or tery, because RR was our planned push and we sure as hell weren't killing john, and tery was less likely to be able to influence town against me, so it had to be you. gj drawing that kill though... too bad everyone was VT =(

JTB - oh man... i'm so sorry haha T.T i was surprised to hear you label me as town after all that though.

Auspher - hi peanut <3 sorry you had to die for my claim to work.

The Paprika Killer - FREAKING TPK. really bad luck that you targetted me N1 - not really bad play on your part though, imo. as RR said, with a role like that, you really really need to crumb your target before going into N1. for later nights it's not as important since you can just tell others in your masonry, but this game would have been a lot different if you had just thrown out a subtle "t-block is my strongest town read. if i were to be in a masonry, i would want it to be with him", that would have been enough, and it wouldn't have drawn any attention before your flip.

GG everyone... with so many new players i wanted to sorta challenge myself with this game and have a bit of fun rather than taking it super seriously. so i said i would keep both me and gustave alive, and i wouldn't push for easy lynches on new players - hence JTB, Kantrip, RR.

i had every facet of the claim planned out from the beginning, and when TPK flipped cult leader i was like "uhh.... can i still claim this?" but RR had already picked up on crumbs so i couldn't really go back on it lol. this was a neat setup... would have been interesting to see how it played out if TPK hadn't died N1, and maybe with more experienced players playing VTs.

really fun game overall. huge shoutout to Xiivi for hosting ^^

 

[T-block]

Welp, good game. Town sheeped way too much. I'll post shoutouts after school. T-Block has me so salty right now. I thought it was Gustave / RR when I went out.

T-Block, if I was alive last Night would you have NKed me?

Nope, for exactly the reason I used against RR. If we lynched John, you would have pushed RR with me. If we lynched RR, I needed you alive to push a lynch onto, since if both you and RR are dead, I'm basically auto-lynched.

7. T-block - That claim with the crumbs ruined any chance of me thinking you were scum along with your play compared to the others. Gah, your scum play scares me hardcore, you look super townie and then you play it out like you are town with the crumbs with the flavor....gahh....

lol you are going to cop me every game now aren't you T.T

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Count on it and with how often I get cop, you can bet that will be a lot. >:3

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also, I had dibs on the mafia after this one to host, I was either gonna wait a while or host right when this ended.

It's SWF Moderator Mafia.

 

[T-block]

oh i forgot to mention this funny story:

gustave and i planned to set it up so that gustave would claim last, and he would claim protective if nobody else did.

so i fashioned my claim to suggest the existence of a protective role (will lose, could potentially lose suggesting that something could block mafia kills), so either tery claims it, or gustave claims it. i said that if we no lynch, we might lose instead of will lose because a protective could stop it. then gustave claimed VT, so we had all VTs and i was like "well **** how do i explain that we might lose instead of will lose on a NL" haha

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I was considering lying about being one myself to not get lynched, lol.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Wait like a week with hosting, cause I want /in.

I still have a one week ban waiting for me after this game is done lol.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Nope. I had dibs on this freaking after Tery but Glyph skipped me and now Xiivi did.

I have next host.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I was defiantly after Glyph,

Edit: eh, go for it, I wanna fine tune an idea before I host it.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I had this literally 4 games ago but people kept skipping me. Look back at the old threads. Every single time.

 

[Jim Morrison]

2. Gustave - Really happy with myself this game, I didn't just ride on T-block's expierence, I actually did things myself as well! Playing scum is so much more fun. My scum draw luck is infallible

3. John2k4 - When in LyLo, never vote unless it is agreed on by the majority that voting someone is okay. Other than that, you were bad at defending yourself. It was kind of hard, because you got yourself in trouble with a lot of things just because they weren't smart play. Think smarter when playing, re-read the important parts of the game while playing. The only reason you weren't lynched was because you ignored points long enough for attention to be diverted. Don't make this a habit.

5. Kantrip - The scariest player in the game. I was afraid of you, D2. You had T-block down for the wrong reasons. I wasn't as afraid of that, mostly because the reason you were voting T-block was wrong, you should be voting your top scumpick, not the conclusion from that pick.
What scared me most was the fact that you were suspicious of me. What made you put me down as scum? I'd looove to know. Also, the thing that got you lynched I think, was the way you were all over the place. One moment you're on a gambit with John, then vote T-block, then vote John, then you think RR should be lynched instead, then I'm suspicious and then you vote yourself. Never vote yourself as town pl0x.

6. Red Ryu - Best traitor I could wish for. I understand you being passionate for the game but you definitely let that lead you on the wrong track. I thought you played better than this RR =(. On D1 and start of D2 you played very well, no one thought you were scum.

7. T-block - Stop making such good claims and survive leading 2 mislynches and 2 NK's and STILL getting away with it. You played great, helped guide me through this as scum =) It was AN HONOR to play with you T-block-sama.

8. Terywj - Play better, it's all I really got. You don't have much to comment on.

10. TokyoGamer7 - Don't give up so easily. You had an unfortunate restriction but it shouldn't have kept you back. You don't necessarily have to hide your restriction. Just say something obvious like "The balls are inert". You really should answer questions that are asked to you.

DtJ Glyphmoney - You had T-block down which was scary. It made me believe you had something on him, but we reasoned that wasn't possible, so we thought it was fine. Your kill wouldn't really leave any connections and see T-block's explanation.

4. JTB - Ballsy gambit and I am baffled that a lynch on you actually went through. Bad play by town there, you defended yourself like you should, as far as I know. Only made some mistakes with execution of your gambit.

1. Auspher - You played alright, I don't remember exactly why you had to claim so early again, but see what T-block said, you had to die =(.

9. The Paprika Killer - Crumb crumb crumb and don't pick T-block.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Thanks. My game will have a fun mechanic so it should be interesting.

The OP will be up by the end of the weekend.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Wait for Gustave to come back before hosting.

 

[JTB]

sorry kuz, ill have to skip on your game

 

[th3kuzinator]

Signups will start. The game won't start until that happens ofc. Guus will be able to get in.

And why, JTB? Its a good setup.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It's a Dexter set-up of course.

 

[th3kuzinator]

of c

 

[T-block]

I was considering lying about being one myself to not get lynched, lol.

I think that would have been a good play actually. Hard to say now though =\

Thanks. My game will have a fun mechanic so it should be interesting.

The OP will be up by the end of the weekend.

Ughhh I wanna take a break from mafia goddammit

 

[th3kuzinator]

one last game tblock

 

[John2k4]

Wow...this was fun.

Thanks for the advice, I was getting concerned about sheeping, and with all of TB's experience he was able to practically tell me what to do. :/

TB - Nice job power player.

Kanty - I would have been at your throat if you got me lynched D2 again. It's always fun playing with you.

Red Ryu - I honestly did not know what to think about your LyLo rage, but now that I understand the dangers behind LyLo, I will be a lot more careful in the future.

Tery - Why you no post more?

JTB - interesting gambit. Hardly got to see you play, but I liked your tactic.

Tokyo - I was in the same boat as you in Majora's Mask - you just gotta stick it out and try your hardest.

tPK - Crumbs.

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*handshakes* Thanks everyone, good game.

 

[Xiivi]

1. Auspher - You got distracted from the game far too easily and started doing social chat when everyone had you as town thanks to your claim. Keep playing the game especially in a pivotal position like that.
2. Gustave - Good play. I'm going to ban you for a week as your reward.
3. John2k4 - Sheeping is fine if you know how to do it.
4. JTB - You must earn sheep before you can stick your neck out like that as a townie.
5. Kantrip - You must earn sheep before you can stick your neck out like that as a townie.
6. Red Ryu - Remember when they were complaining about the Rock & Spo crumbs since "scum can crumb too"? This is a good example of scum doing that. S'alright, you got this for next time though.
7. T-block - Solid play, could tell you were thinking a lot about what you did. However, I can tell you that at times you looked much to willing to rearrange your reads so you could lynch anyone. Most here wouldn't have picked up on it though.
8. Terywj - You should throw your vote around more. That voting pattern works for your playstyle.
9. The Paprika Killer - All you needed to do was hammer and say "T-block, regardless of this flip I'm going to be talking to you a lot tomorrow."
10. TokyoGamer7 DtJ Glyphmoney - Finding scum is the easy part, getting people to vote scum is the hard part.

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I was very pleased with the set-up. It worked wonderfully. Worst case scenarios with the town happened, and the balance still remained even. Town lost due to their own mistakes, and scum won due to their own good play.

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There is no Queue in the Disco Room for mafia. If you want to, then specifically arrange something with the room mods to make sure you don't lose your place like you did. But we're not going to make a special Queue for social rooms. Especially if your only use of the Disco Room is to play/host mafia and you don't really come here for any other reason. The Disco Room is not a place for you to simply come in and host extra.

[I know this isn't exactly the case for you kuz, but I'm just making it clear.]

 

[th3kuzinator]

I know there isn't an established queue and thats fine but I wanted to host a setup with the peeps in the disco room since upick1 and always got sidestepped.

And I don't only come in here for mafia. I just post in here sparingly.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Okay I'm ready to run my game now, sign up thread will be up momentarily Kuz I know you're gunna quote this so have fun being mad and then not mad because I'm joking

 

[th3kuzinator]

sigh

wutever back of the line again

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Kuz quote the post I just made or highlight it

 

[th3kuzinator]

oh you~

i didnt quote it tho lol

 

[T-block]

7. T-block - Solid play, could tell you were thinking a lot about what you did. However, I can tell you that at times you looked much to willing to rearrange your reads so you could lynch anyone. Most here wouldn't have picked up on it though.

Thanks for the critique. Think you can be a little more specific? This game was pretty experimental for me, since I very rarely get scum roles =(

D1 I was hard on JTB. D2 I only voiced a consideration for RR because it would be hella tunnely for me to stick on Kantrip like I did for JTB - plus it got him to claim before N2, and set up for a push on D3.

D3 is probably what you're referring to, and I thought I stuck pretty hard to pushing RR as scum x.x Any push onto John or Tery I would have pushed off as pushes just to get reactions, and I think I would have gotten away with that.

 

[th3kuzinator]

actually, rr or glyph, go right ahead.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I actually don't want to run a mafia game, ergo me letting Xiivi do his thang in the first place. So if RR wants to take a stab at it, go ahead.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Look at that, no one suspected me. The only thing that came close was Kantrip disliking me near the end of D2. I did good this game, in my own opinion!

You didn't read my posts. I called this out towards the end and T-Block was like "Ew!".

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Terywj - if i were town, i'd be super annoyed at you for this giving up attitude. if someone pushed you, saying "lynch me, but you're just going to be mad post game" does NOT help town at all. town should not say something like that... it's scum AtE through and through. i know you had no internet and that killed your interest in the game etc etc, but out of respect to the other players, you still shouldn't resort to giving up like that.

I didn't give up. I had my picks and was obviously not in a safe position to vote. You just happened to say something silly like, "Tery if you're town I'm going to be so mad." so I'm definitely going to comment on that. WTF are you smoking?

Tery - Why you no post more?

I will punch you.

8. Terywj - You should throw your vote around more. That voting pattern works for your playstyle.

Yeah, I learned that after a few earlier games, but it's awful for me in MYLO / LYLO.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I get host woot.

Gonna wait a bit before I do host it so I can find tune it, and so Gustave can join after being unbanned.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Oh look, we're waiting for Guus. Again.

 

[John2k4]

Red Ryu - can we be friends again?

 

[Kantrip]

5. Kantrip - You must earn sheep before you can stick your neck out like that as a townie.

This is actually a really good point. I think I'm going to play games with less risk as town instead of trying to push for crazy stuff (that may or may not work). I was banking too much on their being a cop in this set-up, but after seeing all the VT claims it become obvious to me that town was based around it, and T-Block's claim looked really suspicious to me. It's that hindsight 20/20 I guess

Xiivi - Thank you for hosting this game. I enjoyed it and I liked the set-up. The Cult Leader was neat

I'm too lazy to do full shout-outs, don't be mad if you don't get anything as someone else probably already said what I would say:

John - I must say I was reading you wrong in this game. In part it was my fault for looking so heavily at how you played in one other game as town. What I saw this game was that you were trying new things as town and trying to improve your play, which is good. You've got the activity and the drive, and all you need to do is work on your independent thought and coming to good conclusions through reading into the intent behind posts. This was lacking this game, which gave me the scum read on you that I got (and still had even when removed from the game), but I can really see now that you were actively trying to further your play. For that, I say good job Do remember to be more cautious in MyLo or LyLo situations, as it only takes one vote for an alpha strike, though.

T-Block - In the early game you were looking really townie, and I actually found it weird that you were so confident in a D1 read, but I never thought it was scummy. I was just confused. Knowing now that you were trying to challenge yourself as scum the things you did make more sense, but at the time I think the fact that you were pushing wagons on the players who could defend themselves was actually more of a town tell. Without the cultist thing you probably could have swept this game easily (I say probably because my mind is really swingy and there's a chance I would've caught something ). Needless to say I'll be more cautious of you now

Gustave - Good job, Gustave. I can't remember why I actually suspected you were partnered with Red Ryu, or why I thought you were suspicious at all, but I think it was just a sort of vibe. You played quite well

 

[T-block]

what was wrong with my claim? D=

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Red Ryu - can we be friends again?

We still are, I was faking the rage to show I was townie like Kuzi said I should in games.

 

[Kantrip]

Just the fact that it was also mason-esque in a set-up with no power roles besides the cult leader. You could have claimed doctor, cop, no problem but yours was far too complicated to be part of Xiivi's "simple set-up".