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I'm probably just not watching as closely as I need to then, because a ground approach is the way I prefer to play Lucario as well. And how in the world do you even do the wall cling with him? I accidentally do it a lot, and end up killing myself because I didn't realize what I'd done.
and then you hope that lucario decides that he wants to wall cling this time, or else you just fall off anyway. as opposed to when aim for the ledge and he decides THAT is a good time to wall cling and you fall off without realizing what happened. or you get hit because you're sticking to the ledge like a doofus.
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Across both matches, I'd suggest being a bit more sparing with dash attack. That is to say, mix more into your approach than just DD>DA. For the most part (with some noteworthy exceptions), it seemed to work fine for you in these matches, but a bit of variety will go a long way (SHFFfair, for example, against most 0% characters, leads into a decent combo/stagger via either FP or DT, dependent upon opponent's DI, fallspeed, and size. Additionally, it can be performed retreating.).Tournament last weekend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQV7ZL12IL4&t=3m42s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0G5Ia5HvIs
Critique would be nice
Fair > side b is pretty reliable at lower percents with good spacing. Also, if you're stringing multiple fairs you can read your opponent's DI since it likely isn't going to change that much between two fairs and position the fair & side b accordingly. It's better than you're giving it credit for. It's not free, but it's also not completely useless.
stop wasting charges on spirit bombs trying to edgeguard. throw it low and then cover the high ground. or throw it off and hit people into it if you can. matter of fact go to the lucaryu thread and read the last couple messages. the user Browny pretty much wrote the bible on using the spirit bomb to edgeguard
This happens if you aim on a certain spot on the ledge. It usually happens if you aim it above the tip of the ledge.
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DownB is not an effective way to get around projectiles. You can cancel it with the aura once, but that's a sad use of the aura. When you have a bomb and a boomerang thrown at you (which is the typical combo of projectiles Link will choose), DownB isn't enough. The best thing to do is to just not be where the projectile hits altogether. The boomerang has a surprising amount of hitstun, and it's enough for Link to always get a follow-up. Link v Lucario is pretty bad for Lucario (which is why I switched to a Melee character for the one time that tournament).
Your most prominent issue I noticed, and one that you were punished quite a bit for, was your movement and spacing (attacks, specifically) in neutral. To my knowledge, I saw next to no dash dancing for example, and that is a super important part to Lucario's neutral. To help with this, dash dance, moonwalk, and wavedash (and in general just be more mobile) a bit more frequently, and if possible, use the stage elements a bit more while doing so.
Although DownB is not the best option in every instance, it's still very solid, especially if you have aura. For example, against E2XD, at 2:24 you could have downB cancelled into downsmash for the kill.
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Nice matches. I love watching other Lucarios. They're always so different. Try FP combos over Usmash on big characters like Zard/DDD. Lots of dash attacks, careful of that habit. Also you should always waveland out of whiffed Usmash.Had a long smashfest, played a lot of lucario. You'll have to skim through the matches if you want to find the lucario ones, but they are all high level matches against amazing players so they are pretty fun
http://www.twitch.tv/hylian88/b/513365366
I use FP a lot, I like upsmash more on shield as it's safer because you can cancel instantly into dair and they can't roll out like they can against FP. You also get a lot more off an Upsmash than you do off a FP. I intentionally dash attack a lot it's not a habit, I do it a lot to try and improve my movement through experience to find openings in opponents with DA, which leads to more than anything else from neutral save jab(and hitting someone with jab in neutral either requires meter or crazyness). I agree about the waveland out of whiffed usmash though
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Fair -> Force palm is sick at low percentages. A great combo starter. You can't afford to dash attack too often against "good" players as its pretty easy to dodge reactively and has crazy end lag when it doesn't hit. Not to mention that lucario is combo fodder so you should be trying to play keep away as often as possible
