Hot Furry Footage: Lucario Video Thread

[iPunchKidsz]

Me and Kaos are going up to CenCal this Saturday so watch out for that on Twitch to see some High Level Lucario/Mewtwo doubles play (:

Also (my comma isnt working right now :'( ) I have acquired stream equipment from my sponsors so I will be streaming soon at my home. Doing some Classic/All Star mode runs as well as training mode practice . And today I will be sending in my 3DS for capture board installment so.. Look out for me doing Smash 3DS streaming as well . I still main Lucario in that game and havent lost a tourney yet so ... Itll be cool if you guys could follow my twitch (:

Definitely will appreciate it . ^___^

Twitch.tv/iPunchKidsz

 

[Kerfuffle]

http://www.twitch.tv/kzoosmash/b/586381635?t=3h40m00s

Alright, have at it. Finally got some stream time in a Bo5 against one of the heavier hitters in our area. Give me all the suggestions and critique you can think of. Let it be noted, I was not comfortable enough with my tech skill yet to start implementing ASC's, but i've done a lot of lab work and i'm feeling much better about it now. This was the first tournament where I actually mained lucario, and it was for a spot at the circuit finale in two weeks, so nerves were at an all time high.

 

[Chosenl]

Got a combo vid right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypFhBgV7Tks

 

[HK_Spadez]

http://www.twitch.tv/kzoosmash/b/586381635?t=3h40m00s

Alright, have at it. Finally got some stream time in a Bo5 against one of the heavier hitters in our area. Give me all the suggestions and critique you can think of. Let it be noted, I was not comfortable enough with my tech skill yet to start implementing ASC's, but i've done a lot of lab work and i'm feeling much better about it now. This was the first tournament where I actually mained lucario, and it was for a spot at the circuit finale in two weeks, so nerves were at an all time high.

hey. good match. i'd say work on ur neutral a bit more. a couple more aura spheres to put on the pressure to make them come to u. maybe some retreating fairs. sometimes i treat llucario like pit and go for those full hop double fairs. if a fair hit confirms even on shield u can either down B or if u fair their shield and they arent paying attention u get a free side B command grab.

also mix up ur movement a bit more. lucario doesnt have the best approach since its all DA and fair. u tend to stick with traditional dash dancing when you coulud be mixing it up using wavebounce ASC's or simply short hop down B's everywhere to try to catch a whiff and then go for a pivot grab or something.

 

[HK_Spadez]

finally have some vids i could show. played some friendlies at my friends place that he streams. any advice would be nice.

(vs dk)
http://www.twitch.tv/shinkensou/b/588930974?t=94m0s

(vs falco)
http://www.twitch.tv/shinkensou/b/588930974?t=56m39s

(vs sheik and link)
http://www.twitch.tv/shinkensou/b/588930974?t=14m05s

(vs fox)
http://www.twitch.tv/shinkensou/b/588930974?t=100m08s

Theres a lot in there. lost a couple vs the dk. I lost to the link/sheik player whenever I sd trying to ledge stall or extreme ledge hog. The sheik/link usually gives me the hardest time out of the group.

but yeah theres def alot more games in there than the links above. (the ones i picked for fox/falco were just funny. it was their first time fighting lucario XD)

Theres a lot of me getting wrecked by the sheik earlier in stream when i was sding a bunch and me trying to play my fraudulent falco.

anyways. TL:DR hope you enjoy the matches.

 

[Ryan Grant]

Got a combo vid right here:

Ganondorf? Really? I could make a combo video better than that on Ganondorf and I'm 15!

 

[Chosenl]

Ganondorf? Really? I could make a combo video better than that on Ganondorf and I'm 15!

Iono what age has to do with it, lol. Most of my recorded my matches in tournies involved either a Ganon or a Lucario. Besides, its BizzarroFlame: Mr. Legendary Melee Ganon player himself and taking 1st at all PM tournies he enters. Look him up cause he's like... the SilentSpectr of Ganon.

 

[Ryan Grant]

I know who BizzaroFlame is, I mean jesus, what I'm saying is the weight of the character is everything when it comes to combos with lucario. Ganondorf is probably the easiest character to get a 100%+ combo on.

 

[HK_Spadez]

hey guys. any thoughts on my matches posted above? Going to first monthly in 2 weeks and i'd like some critque.

 

[Ryan Grant]

There's this combo you can reliably do at around 100%, dash attack aura cancel -> dash attack aura cancel -> dash attack aura cancel -> nair.

 

[Darkgun]

hey guys. any thoughts on my matches posted above? Going to first monthly in 2 weeks and i'd like some critque.

Critiques! A-here we go! I watched the Link, Shiek, and DK matches.
• Something I noticed was that often, you would followup an early percent FP with dair(1st)>aFP. This is pretty awesome (and something I've not considered doing), but it may be a good idea to mix it up a bit, as it will become predictable. You also might consider using a jab reset if you aFP an opponent while just above the stage that doesn't tech as opposed to dtilt to add a bit of variety to that scenario as well, in addition to possibly getting a much more significant punish.
• Your movement around ledge seems to be a bit lacking. I would suggest working ledge dash, ledge drop aerials to cover landing on the stage. Additionally, you EShog like clockwork. Opponent leaves stage -> ES to ledge. You may find that mixing standing near ledge, using BAS, and threatening your opponent's recovery options will better challenge their return, plus it'll make EShog all that more jarring when you actually use it. With that in mind, EShogging is now different, so that might not be quite as useful.
• I noticed several instances where you would usmash>ASC, then... well, usually nothing happened after that. Not sure if you were after usmash(1st)>ASC, as that will start you on the ground and provide ample time for a follow-up.

Most everything looked pretty good, in honesty. I hadn't thought of using resets as resets (as previously they were merely times in which I wasn't making my opponent less alive), though I'll definitely try to think about and use them in the future. My other little nitpick was that, especially in the Shiek matchup, you threw out quite a few unsafe aerials, many of which lead to a punish from your opponent. You can cover this with improvements to movement and spacing. Past that, great stuff.

 

[HK_Spadez]

thanks dark! yeah. on most characters (3.2) if they are under 25%. if u do Dair (1st) -> aFP. they will end up in standing position. which gives me a chance to reset with jab jab -> Dtilt.

my goto combo in 3.2 was

DA -> FP -> Dair (1st) -> aFP -> (they will end in stand) Jab x2 -> Dtilt -> Up b into them and hold down, ex cancel (they will be standing again) -> jab again and go into whatever you want from this point

I found out this doesnt work as well in 3.5. in 3.5 they aFP doesnt put them in standing position if they are above 22%.... (DA + FP = 23%) unfortunately... LOL so its barely ****ed. so now my setup for the aFP reset is usually off jab or up throw at low % can go into the dair I need.

thanks for advice man. i do notice i tend to throw out too many aerials. and I SD a lot with ES hogging. so maybe now that ES hogging is gone it'll help me improve my game. lately i have been opting for moonwalking to edge since ES to ledge is gone.

and coming back from ledge i get too greedy. i havent noticed before but i love to try for ledge hop fair into double team. i'll work on looking into more options.

I think for my neutral game I need to maybe aura sphere a bit more and work on wavebouncing ASCs for movement.

thanks for the tips, any other advice would be helpful if anyone noticed anything.

 

[Szion]

coughs dash attack sucks compared to all his other approach options coughs

coughs i still use it way too much........

Why is this the story of my life?

 

[Pr0fessor Flash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdIoMCqXdNo&list=UUAB3V5qkvUKbjygS2IgibVw&index=5 any advice?

 

[Ryan Grant]

any advice?

When you dont want to go of an edge after an aura canceled forward/down smash into down special, use neutral special instead, then immediately press l/r. Besides from that, most of your combos dont have follow ups because you dont know the basic knockback of most moves. You should also be using more vertical combos for example: dash attack -> up tilt -> upsmash -> nair/side special/dair/aura cancelled fair combo. I learned lucario from videos, not guides, and you should check out for example Hylian, Khan ye East and Amsa for tech skill and such. Hope it helped!

 

[Daltonthelou]

Hey guys I've been lurking here for a while. I have some videos from my house tournaments and if you guys could critique me that would be awesome.

12.12.14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcuF7MS1RrE&list=UU2vZwJL5g2I2ch9db5WsGeA Vs Falcon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamHeJ2WwGU&index=25&list=UU2vZwJL5g2I2ch9db5WsGeA Vs Ganon and Marth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6259ZzIGLJw&list=UU2vZwJL5g2I2ch9db5WsGeA Vs Squirtle and Charizard

12.30.14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWFHhCUbfDA&index=8&list=UU2vZwJL5g2I2ch9db5WsGeA Vs Marth

Thanks Guys


Edit: I'm a year ahead

 

[Leirkov]

Hey guys I've been lurking here for a while. I have some videos from my house tournaments and if you guys could critique me that would be awesome.

12.12.14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcuF7MS1RrE&list=UU2vZwJL5g2I2ch9db5WsGeA Vs Falcon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamHeJ2WwGU&index=25&list=UU2vZwJL5g2I2ch9db5WsGeA Vs Ganon and Marth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6259ZzIGLJw&list=UU2vZwJL5g2I2ch9db5WsGeA Vs Squirtle and Charizard

12.30.14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWFHhCUbfDA&index=8&list=UU2vZwJL5g2I2ch9db5WsGeA Vs Marth

Thanks Guys


Edit: I'm a year ahead

tldr: Try and incorporate ASC, waveland/dashing, mix up approach options, utilize upsmash in other ways.

I'll say Lucario's dash attack is good but overused. It's a pretty predictable attack and punishable if missed. It has two different hitboxes if I'm not mistaken. Mix up how you go in with SH/rising fairs, instant dairs into side b etc, and try using downB cancel approaches with mixups like jab, utilt, dtilt, smashes, etc.

Your neutral was pretty dashdance centric with few mixups or baits, you can wavedash bait or use WD mixups while dashdancing.

Lastly I think you should try ASC to really extend your combos. This stood out to me in the Falcon video since both of you are perfect combo weight for each other, making for a "touch of death" style. Utilt asc jab can juggle. Dtilt asc can lead into almost anything at certain percents. Upsmash also is a good answer to crouch cancelling, so ASCing off the first hit or even side-b/Aura Bomb all can combo as well depending on DI.

Overall though you did play well, but sometimes you overcommit during combo strings. Not to overshadow anything, you play a nice Lucario.

 

[Darkgun]

I've been honored enough to get some stream time over the past few tourneys I've attended! Notably, there's this match with Ampersandy(GnW) in which we both seemed to play pretty well. If you guys can see anything to work on, I'm always open to advice and criticisms.

Post set notes: One thing the commentators seem to have pinned down is that, overall, my performance is somewhat inconsistent. I've also personally noticed that I'm dropping combos more than I would prefer due to either tech errors or poor decision making. In regards to my opponent specifically, and due to a lack of matchup experience among the tourney scene I play in, I have developed a (albeit working) strategy of using DTC burst movement often, though my lack of variety in regards to situation and move are leaning heavily towards bad habits (as highlighted well by my match with Shokio the same night (linked below)).

GnW Matchup Notes: This match is supposedly hard. I personally really enjoy it due to GnW's low weight and peculiar fall speed, since he's easy to combo and actually can be killed off the top at a percent that other characters normally scout kills for. When someone comes up with a way to edgeguard him, please, do tell. I'm slowly reaching that point where I am more willing to just take center stage than even mess with that silliness. Also, expect to get CC'd. Over and over and over again.


Those few others I got to play recently: (Posted mainly so I can find them later.)
IaB38 - vs Shokio(Roy)
IaB37 - vs PolyR(Falco)
IaB37 - vs Infinity(Fox, Peach)
IaB36 - vs Sethlon(Roy)
IaB35 - vs Calm Animal(Bowser)

 

[bec]

ur welcom 4 stream time <3 c;

 

[Darkgun]

ur welcom 4 stream time <3 c;

TLOC for president.

 

[Risky]

http://youtu.be/I0ctu0AiIMY Risky v Sora (Tink, Falcon, Marth)
http://youtu.be/k4vFvyu1Lu8 Risky v AOI (Marth, Falco)

Some matches.

Cherry-picked for your viewing pleasure. Have a couple from the SG 3 days ago that I'll post when they're uploaded.

 

[Risky]

Hey guys, I finally won Smashing Grounds, my "local" weekly that I go to. From winner's side even! This is the first W I've seen for Lucario in a while and the first for me outside of doubles.

I've put together all of my vids on youtube, with the first being from 4/20 of last year. For those interested:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQnQBV0Eg-rKzH5e3l--IJZryS1o67Y4Y

 

[cheesestalker]

lucario is best i love playing as him so much

 

[cheesestalker]

ayyy luc is op

 

[iPunchKidsz]

ayyy luc is op

Ayyyy no.

 

[Leirkov]

Wanna get this thread going again.

Looking for some advice.

http://www.twitch.tv/long_island_smash/b/645862254?t=8m44s [vs. R.O.B] - I won this 2-0 but I felt a bit sloppy. My recovery was definitely a weak point in this set. My DownB cancels were trying to be uTilts, not jabs. Working on that and also looking to improve my OoS game, which is insanely weak.

 

[Darkgun]

Wanna get this thread going again.

Looking for some advice.

http://www.twitch.tv/long_island_smash/b/645862254?t=8m44s [vs. R.O.B]

Link no longer works. Is there a recording of this match elsewhere?

 

[Leirkov]

Link no longer works. Is there a recording of this match elsewhere?

Apparently all VoDs but one of the most recent ones were lost. I dunno what happened to the channel.. bummer.

 

[Gooch]

http://www.twitch.tv/waffru/b/652557426

Netplay Lucario dittos between Ohyeahlickmyelbows (white, me) vs Fudgepop01 (blue)
starts at 17:03

 

[Szion]

Uh until i have actual footage to post, take this. It makes me chuckle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEDcFCuIIYA
Edit: nvm have some tourney nerves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7e6gQsfHQ

 

[Firebolt]

Hi guys, was wondering if ya'll would critique my lucario. Here are a couple matches from my weekly a few weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GolqgjgN8z0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WUJafV-EU4

 

[Kerfuffle]

Hi guys, was wondering if ya'll would critique my lucario. Here are a couple matches from my weekly a few weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GolqgjgN8z0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WUJafV-EU4

So it seems like you did a lot of combos and on-hit cancels without thinking about the opponents percentage or fall speed. Also, you used down b to cross up people a lot but it ended up getting pretty predictable. Other than that, work on more advanced tech like ASC and wavedashing. You weren't doing bad at all, but your play was just unrefined and basic.

 

[Firebolt]

I can wave dash I just don't ever see the need to. With lucario 's dash speed and good dash dance I am curious why I would wave dash. Explain please?

 

[Kerfuffle]

Because you have so many options out of wavedashing. Out of dash, you have very limited options. With wavedash, you can change direction and keep more options open. Why do you think people still use Peach's wavedash in melee when she hers has no distance and she has float shenanigans to keep her mobile? Its all about keeping options open. Use it for mixups when dash dancing and baiting out laggy moves that heavy spacing characters like to use.

 

[Firebolt]

Makes sense

 

[Misuse]

Reviving this thread with some 3.6!

Here is a combo vid some of my MN friends made for me after I left the state.
Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW061r8LVaw

 

[Gooch]

Not sure if this has been posted here yet, but i think this video should be seen by everyone.

http://www.hitbox.tv/video/724615/description

Its an analysis by Reslived that compares 2 lesser lucarios to IPK and what he does differently. An hour long, so grab some god damn snacks if you haven't seen it already

 

[GoldenSSB]

I've had to take quite a long break from PM due to school and work, and haven't been able to practice tech or my combos for a few months now, but this is the most recent clip i have from one of the events we host. If i could get some feedback on this game it would be amazing! Thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKuP4CWsNH4