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Social Hideout of the Phantom Thieves - Joker Social

Best girl?

  • Sae

    Votes: 9 3.3%
  • Futaba

    Votes: 91 33.7%
  • Ann

    Votes: 26 9.6%
  • Haru

    Votes: 32 11.9%
  • Kawakami

    Votes: 14 5.2%
  • Takemi

    Votes: 14 5.2%
  • Ohya

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Chiyaya

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • Hifumi

    Votes: 14 5.2%
  • Makoto

    Votes: 65 24.1%

  • Total voters
    270

Flyboy

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Nope. Just look at how many crossovers, merchandise and media adaptations Persona's been in. ATLUS is pretty lax with Persona, as long as it's not about spoilers.



It's more like the situation of Gekkos in Shadow Moses Island and Yoshi's Crafted World alt. By no means an alt is comparable to a playable character.


I still don't know why you are trying so hard to find an evidence on ATLUS being malevolent, even when you claim you aren't making an accusation post.
ATLUS poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague unto our houses!
 

Teeb147

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P5S announcement talked about everywhere now :)


The 24th and 25th will be the key dates for sure.
 
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I may try to pick Persona 5S, even if I do later than most people.
 

FamicomDisk

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Here’s another neat thing - Version 2.0.2 is coming today! Obviously, I wouldn’t expect Joker in it, but it’s definitely possible for there to be some new files in the update for people to find. It’ll be worth keeping an eye on!
 
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Teeb147

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Here’s another neat thing - Version 2.0.2 is coming today! Obviously, I wouldn’t expect Joker in it, but it’s definitely possible that there might be some more data for him in the update that people can find. It’ll be worth keeping an eye on!
Wow, that's odd. 3.0 should be on its way so i wonder what this is for. Maybe it's just a few bug fixes. It'll be really cool if there's some balance stuff tho :O
 
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So basically, a Direct will have to be announced by Wednesday morning, or we're not getting nothing this week?
The other thread on Smashboards talking about Joker probably has the best chance of being right regarding his release. We're down to it likely being the 9th or the 24/25th that he's revealed & released. The 9th is the 'first calendar day' of the game; when he arrived at Sojiro's house and the 24th/25th is that concert. Both days are prime for his release.

That means, with Directs being anywhere from 2 days to 1 week before a release, we're looking at either an April 5th/April 7th direct for a 9th release or 19th/22nd Direct for a 24th/25th release for Joker.

Everybody seems to think they might drop Joker with little to no fanfare because of Piranha Plant, but the truth is that they already had given us a full gameplay trailer for the plant and talked about the Update coming, so it was likely they were going to be paired anyway. Plus, the Plant was just a 'bonus' for registering your game through My Nintendo or whatever; he was never one of the 'DLC Characters', so I don't think they ever planned on hyping him up. Joker, as well as the rest of the DLC characters to come, will all get reveal trailers for them. Joker may be the only to get a Teaser Trailer and gamplay trailer though.

That's just my belief, though. I seem to be one of the only people on the internet not expecting a full wave of 3rd party characters. I'm still of the belief that the last 2, or even 3, characters in the Fighter's Pass will be all from Nintendo 1st party properties. In fact, it may sound weird (and anger some people), but I'd say Kamek/Magikoopa's chances are fairly good since his presence in the series has only increased since originally being a basic Mario enemy. He even became a playable character in Mario Tennis Aces recently (or will be sometime this month, rather). There's a ton of Nintendo characters that can be implemented (without seeming like a 'stretch'), so to think that every character from now til the end of time will be this 'OMG really?!?!?!' inclusion is just going to start setting people up for another Grinch Leak level disappointment for some people.

EDIT: Was responding to an older post than I thought when my feed alerted me to a new post in this thread lol. With the reveal of Version 2.0.2 coming out later today, I still hold to my opinion. I don't think it'll drop today and I'm pretty confident they'll drop a gameplay trailer beforehand. I'm more than happy to be wrong though.
 
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Wow, that's odd. 3.0 should be on its way so i wonder what this is for. Maybe it's just a few bug fixes. It'll be really cool if there's some balance stuff tho :O
It'll very likely be a small bug fix and a word of warning to save your replays, in order to pave the way for 3.0.0. Maybe we'll even get a release date!
 

Teeb147

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It'll very likely be a small bug fix and a word of warning to save your replays, in order to pave the way for 3.0.0. Maybe we'll even get a release date!
Oh. if we get that warning that could mean 3.0 coming soon :D
Well, the very least im expecting is 1 tidbit or other from datamining XD

i mean, if not it's ok, it's just we could use some cool info. ;p
 

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It'll very likely be a small bug fix and a word of warning to save your replays, in order to pave the way for 3.0.0. Maybe we'll even get a release date!
I don't think they need an update to do that. They just put a notice in the news section. Probably just the bug fix imo. But they've had updates within a week of each other before so it doesn't mean we won't be getting Joker soon.
 

amageish

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I'm going to guess this is a Switch port of the game, and that "new Phantom Thieves" is referring to players who will be playing it for the first time. I remembered this rumor from a while back that said as much, and the same person also said we'd get the port's reveal before May - while I'm not sure how credible this person is, it lines up with a late April announcement, so that's what my guess is for now.

Seems most likely, then, that Joker will join Smash around that point, with P5R being the 24th and P5S being the 25th! Ah, well, I can handle one more month. :p
But that person said P5S would also be on PS4... What point would that be if it was a Switch port and if P5R is also an enhanced version?

"New Phantom Thieves" makes me think this is probably a spin-off/sequel hybrid, a la Persona 4 Dancing in Night... Like, bring everyone back, add in a new character, and have them save the world and steal hearts through some other genre...

In this case... um... Persona 5 Sports! The legally-speaking-not-the-Olympics are in Tokyo and the Phantom Thieves need to stop some sort of corruption scandal. The collective subconscious thought about the Olympics is so large that it created a new Mementos-esque-place that is basically a sports resort, where you can only defeat shadows and steal hearts by beating them in various sports. Joined by Shiho and Mishima, a newly-reformed/re-organized Phantom Thieves have to save the day through playing a bunch of surprisingly-good minigames in a story that people will review as "taking itself way too seriously for a Persona-themed Wii Sports Resort."

Does that sound fanfiction-y as hell? Yes, but so did Dancing All Night!

Here’s another neat thing - Version 2.0.2 is coming today! Obviously, I wouldn’t expect Joker in it, but it’s definitely possible for there to be some new files in the update for people to find. It’ll be worth keeping an eye on!
Yeah, wouldn't bet on it. They dropped characters in incremental updates in Smash 4, but Smash 4 also never got to a version 2.0.0, nevermind a version 3.0.0.,,
 

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But that person said P5S would also be on PS4... What point would that be if it was a Switch port and if P5R is also an enhanced version?

"New Phantom Thieves" makes me think this is probably a spin-off/sequel hybrid, a la Persona 4 Dancing in Night... Like, bring everyone back, add in a new character, and have them save the world and steal hearts through some other genre...

In this case... um... Persona 5 Sports! The legally-speaking-not-the-Olympics are in Tokyo and the Phantom Thieves need to stop some sort of corruption scandal. The collective subconscious thought about the Olympics is so large that it created a new Mementos-esque-place that is basically a sports resort, where you can only defeat shadows and steal hearts by beating them in various sports. Joined by Shiho and Mishima, a newly-reformed/re-organized Phantom Thieves have to save the day through playing a bunch of surprisingly-good minigames in a story that people will review as "taking itself way too seriously for a Persona-themed Wii Sports Resort."

Does that sound fanfiction-y as hell? Yes, but so did Dancing All Night!



Yeah, wouldn't bet on it. They dropped characters in incremental updates in Smash 4, but Smash 4 also never got to a version 2.0.0, nevermind a version 3.0.0.,,
Just watch, 2.0.2 actually will add Joker even though Pirahna Plant brought it to 2.0
 

Teeb147

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But that person said P5S would also be on PS4... What point would that be if it was a Switch port and if P5R is also an enhanced version?

"New Phantom Thieves" makes me think this is probably a spin-off/sequel hybrid, a la Persona 4 Dancing in Night... Like, bring everyone back, add in a new character, and have them save the world and steal hearts through some other genre...

In this case... um... Persona 5 Sports! The legally-speaking-not-the-Olympics are in Tokyo and the Phantom Thieves need to stop some sort of corruption scandal. The collective subconscious thought about the Olympics is so large that it created a new Mementos-esque-place that is basically a sports resort, where you can only defeat shadows and steal hearts by beating them in various sports. Joined by Shiho and Mishima, a newly-reformed/re-organized Phantom Thieves have to save the day through playing a bunch of surprisingly-good minigames in a story that people will review as "taking itself way too seriously for a Persona-themed Wii Sports Resort."

Does that sound fanfiction-y as hell? Yes, but so did Dancing All Night!



Yeah, wouldn't bet on it. They dropped characters in incremental updates in Smash 4, but Smash 4 also never got to a version 2.0.0, nevermind a version 3.0.0.,,
The p5r version could be a ways away, and having a switch version sooner would probably be worth it. I think p5 switch makes sense. But, nothing wrong with olympic spin offs maybe :p
 

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Shooting game, I tell you people, it'll be a shooting game!

Oh, and 28 days left until the Joker release window closes.

Here’s another neat thing - Version 2.0.2 is coming today! Obviously, I wouldn’t expect Joker in it, but it’s definitely possible for there to be some new files in the update for people to find. It’ll be worth keeping an eye on!

You don't suppose they might have an update every week as a form of countdown?
 

FamicomDisk

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But that person said P5S would also be on PS4... What point would that be if it was a Switch port and if P5R is also an enhanced version?
Assuming they’re correct, maybe P5S is the enhanced version, and P5R isn’t an enhanced version after all? We never got any confirmation that that’s what R is, did we?

Persona 5 Sports would be fun though, haha :p
 
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FamicomDisk

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Yes, it's The Royal.
I know that’s the name, but what I’m wondering about is whether or not they actually confirmed it was an enhanced version or not.

“The Royal” makes it easy to assume it is, going along with “The Golden”, but did they say that outright yet?
 
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Teeb147

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I know that’s the name, but what I’m wondering about is whether or not they actually confirmed it was an enhanced version or not.

“The Royal” makes it easy to assume it is, going along with “The Golden”, but did they say that outright yet?
Well we know it wont just be a port, since there's a new character. It could be an enhanced version or totally just be its own (side)game within the persona 5 story.
 

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I know that’s the name, but what I’m wondering about is whether or not they actually confirmed it was an enhanced version or not.

“The Royal” makes it easy to assume it is, going along with “The Golden”, but did they say that outright yet?
ATLUS's track record makes it hard to assume it's anything else. If it was a spin-off, they'd likely announce it as such, like they did with previous ones.

Well we know it wont just be a port, since there's a new character. It could be an enhanced version or totally just be its own (side)game within the persona 5 story.
That, and ATLUS never only makes simple ports for Persona (at least, in Japan).
 
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lukinator1

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i think it stands for persona 5 switch, with exclusive content featuring nintendo characters that may tie into super smash brothers like with bayonetta
 
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Teeb147

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Here's why I think P5S could be just the switch port (I dont know their patterns in the past though.);

They're not really hyping it with a trailer like they did with p5r.
(hence maybe there's nothing new to show) that's all :p


It'll sell for sure especially with joker coming to smash.
 
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amageish

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The p5r version could be a ways away, and having a switch version sooner would probably be worth it. I think p5 switch makes sense. But, nothing wrong with olympic spin offs maybe :p
I suppose if it was an instant drop, then that would make sense. But if it is not coming until the fall... I dunno. 23 more days until we do know though...

I know that’s the name, but what I’m wondering about is whether or not they actually confirmed it was an enhanced version or not.

“The Royal” makes it easy to assume it is, going along with “The Golden”, but did they say that outright yet?
They have outright said it is a RPG, though not if it is an enhanced version. So, it is technically possible that P5S is an enhanced rerelease and P5R is some entirely new JRPG, but if that is the case, then ATLUS is working on taking the "Most confusing naming scheme" award from Nintendo...
 

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They have outright said it is a RPG, though not if it is an enhanced version. So, it is technically possible that P5S is an enhanced rerelease and P5R is some entirely new JRPG, but if that is the case, then ATLUS is working on taking the "Most confusing naming scheme" award from Nintendo...
No, I think that award belongs to the Kingdom Hearts series.
 

Teeb147

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Ahhhhh, fair. The fact that New Super Mario Bros 2 is the third New Super Mario Bros game has to get some points though, right?



True, but that one is a parody...
Alright, then how about the neptunia series?
Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth2: Sisters Generation
MegaTagmension Blanc + Neptune VS Zombies
Superdimension Neptune vs Sega Hard Girls
Nep-Nep Connect: Chaos Chanpuru

To be fair tho some of those are pretty japan. and japan has weird naming taste XD
 

amageish

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Alright, then how about the neptunia series?
Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth2: Sisters Generation
MegaTagmension Blanc + Neptune VS Zombies
Superdimension Neptune vs Sega Hard Girls
Nep-Nep Connect: Chaos Chanpuru


To be fair tho some of those are pretty japan. and japan has weird naming taste XD
Oh god, yeah. My favourite is how the "remakes" are self-aware that they are "remakes," so they are somehow both remakes and sequels at the same time...
 

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This video's a good sum up of why we should be patient. If you feel Joker is "late", please refer to this video and see that Joker's release is very in line with Smash DLC of the past.
 
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(Just wanted to see what it'd look like in a post :))
Not sure where it came from but i like pixel art.
 
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FamicomDisk

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ATLUS's track record makes it hard to assume it's anything else. If it was a spin-off, they'd likely announce it as such, like they did with previous ones.

That, and ATLUS never only makes simple ports for Persona (at least, in Japan).
You're not wrong! I'm just throwing ideas out there.

Looking forward to seeing what they are the end of the month! :)
 
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If it's a sports game or whatever other genre out there then it's official: Atlus has officially jumped the shark when it comes to their Persona milking. And people here wonder why I have such a pre-conceived notion about them no matter how baseless it is.
 
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