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Social Hideout of the Phantom Thieves - Joker Social

Best girl?

  • Sae

    Votes: 9 3.3%
  • Futaba

    Votes: 91 33.6%
  • Ann

    Votes: 26 9.6%
  • Haru

    Votes: 32 11.8%
  • Kawakami

    Votes: 14 5.2%
  • Takemi

    Votes: 14 5.2%
  • Ohya

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Chiyaya

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • Hifumi

    Votes: 14 5.2%
  • Makoto

    Votes: 66 24.4%

  • Total voters
    271

KirbyWorshipper2465

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Futaba seems to be the nerdy, shy type who potentially opens up as the game progresses. She's the character I'd be interested in exploring a little more to see if they do her well or just overly play into her stereotypes like they did parts of Chie...
You got this one the most on the nose, but it's for more interesting reasons than the usual.
 

EarlTamm

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Hmm... I don't really know a ton about them, so this is going to be rough. But I'll give the impressions of the three I kind of know about:

Ann seems to definitely be a bit more of the upfront Rise type, just without the stardom and maybe a little more confrontational?

Futaba seems to be the nerdy, shy type who potentially opens up as the game progresses. She's the character I'd be interested in exploring a little more to see if they do her well or just overly play into her stereotypes like they did parts of Chie...

And Kawakami is the teacher that you can romance right? So... Yeah, that's a little strange, but again, I'm interested to see how that potentially works out lol.

Those are the only three I really know of haha. I've done pretty well about avoiding a good deal of Persona 5 stuff somehow.



Also, I don't think I've ever mentioned it, but I'm a big fan of RWBY as well and super appreciate the "done with the world" Ruby avatar haha.
It's interesting to hear these perceptions, especially with how both correct but not really correct they are, if that makes sense.

Thanks for the avatar compliment. I put it up as part of a bet, but I have grown kinda attached. That, and it apparently makes me very identifiable. I will say, I find your avatar rather interesting for very weird reasons. That being, I mistakenly see it as Meta Ridley at a first glance. I blame my bad vision for that, as the sword, red chest eye thing and right arm make the shape of Ridley's pterodactyl like head. Anyway, glad to see another RWBY fan here.
 

Teeb147

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Anything new here?
no? ok.

Personally I expect a switch port within 2019-2020. I'm not demanding it, and I think it's possible there isn't one, but I still think it makes sense.

And as for the wait, Im ok now i think, and I feel like i can touch back a bit on the excitement of it being soon :)
Distraction can help i guess ;p Some of that went into updating the erdrick page.
 
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EricTheGamerman

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It's interesting to hear these perceptions, especially with how both correct but not really correct they are, if that makes sense.

Thanks for the avatar compliment. I put it up as part of a bet, but I have grown kinda attached. That, and it apparently makes me very identifiable. I will say, I find your avatar rather interesting for very weird reasons. That being, I mistakenly see it as Meta Ridley at a first glance. I blame my bad vision for that, as the sword, red chest eye thing and right arm make the shape of Ridley's pterodactyl like head. Anyway, glad to see another RWBY fan here.
That certainly makes sense. I've seen so very little of them that I can only guess so much. I have how Persona 4 handled characters to also potentially make some additional guesses, but I just really know so little about Persona 5 to be honest haha.

Haha, yeah, it's from Pacific Rim and I just thought the robots in it looked really cool a few years ago when I first joined the site. I never intended for it to be permanent, but then I just sort of never changed my avatar and now I'd feel a little weird changing it. I feel like it helps identify me on the forums. Though, I have been trying to find something new (If I could draw anything, I'd just do that, but I can't really do anything with physical art haha) since it's starting to look a little pixelated after five years.

Yeah, I got into RWBY last year at a friend's recommendation. I grew up with Achievement Hunter and Roosterteeth, so I knew of it. I just hadn't set down to watch it. It may not always be the most consistent, but I really enjoy watching the show and have loved seeing how much it evolved from initial concept to now. I also love knowing the personalities behind the show, so it makes me a little proud of them when they pull things off really well. Volume 6 made a lot of really good steps in my opinion towards an overall better quality show, so I certainly hope they can keep that momentum going.
 

EarlTamm

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That certainly makes sense. I've seen so very little of them that I can only guess so much. I have how Persona 4 handled characters to also potentially make some additional guesses, but I just really know so little about Persona 5 to be honest haha.

Haha, yeah, it's from Pacific Rim and I just thought the robots in it looked really cool a few years ago when I first joined the site. I never intended for it to be permanent, but then I just sort of never changed my avatar and now I'd feel a little weird changing it. I feel like it helps identify me on the forums. Though, I have been trying to find something new (If I could draw anything, I'd just do that, but I can't really do anything with physical art haha) since it's starting to look a little pixelated after five years.

Yeah, I got into RWBY last year at a friend's recommendation. I grew up with Achievement Hunter and Roosterteeth, so I knew of it. I just hadn't set down to watch it. It may not always be the most consistent, but I really enjoy watching the show and have loved seeing how much it evolved from initial concept to now. I also love knowing the personalities behind the show, so it makes me a little proud of them when they pull things off really well. Volume 6 made a lot of really good steps in my opinion towards an overall better quality show, so I certainly hope they can keep that momentum going.
Persona 5's story does cause some natural differences in the dynamic and how the characters join the party, so it's natural that things would be a bit different. That and the Confidant system is a bit different from the Social Links of P4 and 3, both in gameplay and structure.

Changing an avatar after a long time can be rather weird for all people involved, but it can be for the better. KirbyWorshipper2465 KirbyWorshipper2465 had no icon for the longest time(From the looks of it, for over a decade), but now they are rocking that Joker and Kirby art.

RWBY is not a perfect show, but it is a very personal show to many people and has gone farther than anyone could have imagined(For example, them being able to fight with and against Persona characters). I also like that unlike many other creators for products so big, the people behind it are willing to admit their mistakes and try to better themselves, which is why I think V6 was so good.
 

amageish

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To give my waifu stances nobody asked for: I'm agree with Ann in terms of the Persona 5 cast - every girl in the phantom thieves is equally adorable! Do whatever you want haha. I dated Makoto and Haru in my two playthroughs though.

In Persona 4, on the other hand, I have a very exact set of ships and anyone who defies them is a monster.

Well, uh, remember that time that ATLUS asked about a Persona shooting game in the 2017-18 ATLUS surveys and then the option was removed in the 2019 survey?
 

amageish

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And those are?
The ones outlined by Rise... I apparently always listen to whatever ships the Lovers Arcana character tells us to follow.

So, those are:

Chie/Yosuke
Yukiko/Teddie
Naoto/Kanji
Yu/Rise

You can split up Yukiko and Teddie, as I don't love Teddie and do like Yukiko. The rest just feel so logical given the group dynamics... It kind of makes me wish we could have canon couples, as all the spin-offs having to keep up the flirtationships but never have anything more is just awkward.
 

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All of a sudden the hype for Joker just hit me again. I've been so caught up in the angst of waiting for an announcement that I stopped really being hyped. Now I'm playing smash and thinking "within 2 weeks Joker will be here!" And I am so damn excited.
 

Naoyatodo

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All of a sudden the hype for Joker just hit me again. I've been so caught up in the angst of waiting for an announcement that I stopped really being hyped. Now I'm playing smash and thinking "within 2 weeks Joker will be here!" And I am so damn excited.
Oh, same. I had the exact thought just the other day.

Too bad I have finals that week.
 

EarlTamm

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You know, I was looking through some of the Persona stuff in BBTAG when I was reminded of something.

The Persona ending is bizarre. A good kind of bizarre, but still bizarre.
 

Teeb147

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You know, I was looking through some of the Persona stuff in BBTAG when I was reminded of something.

The Persona ending is bizarre. A good kind of bizarre, but still bizarre.
I still need to play that game sometime. I used to like Blazblue quite a bit.
 

Aeon_Shadow

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Any chances of there being a direct this week? I mean it IS almost the Easter holiday, and Nintendo would likely want their playerbase to have something fresh for them to sink into during the long break which could include a Joker reveal/release.

Yeah I really don't want to believe he will be out after the Persona concert because of Atlus, but as the days go by: It seems like it's starting to be the case...
 

Hadokeyblade

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I kind of expected Joker to release around the 15th but now it seems more and more likely that he's releasing the day of the concert. And that kinda bums me out.
 

Aeon_Shadow

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I kind of expected Joker to release around the 15th but now it seems more and more likely that he's releasing the day of the concert. And that kinda bums me out.
I would not be surprised if Atlus brings it up during their Persona concert, considering they likely want to make a freaking spectacle about anything Persona-related especially when they've technically hit the big time by being a part of Smash.
 
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ramon_zer0

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Any chances of there being a direct this week? I mean it IS almost the Easter holiday, and Nintendo would likely want their playerbase to have something fresh for them to sink into during the long break which could include a Joker reveal/release.
(i keep telling myself it has to be this week surely what is life anywho)

I'd say the chances are somewhat healthy at this time. 3.0.0. is going to be big enough to warrant one, and more importantly - assuming it follows the same format as 2.0.0. - Nintendo is going to give us a week's time to back up any replays we might wanna preserve. Whether coincidence or by the actual plan, this would put Joker's release within the same week as the Persona concert. They won't be able to do this "Direct + week's wait" plan post-Easter either. Not only would that border too close to the actual end of May, but the week of April 29 is also Golden Week; a lot of businesses within Japan - including the team that works on Smash and any gaming publications like Corororo, Famitsu, etc. that could add more publicity to this - are going to likely take it off. Technically speaking, Golden Week starts as early as the 27th since the Japanese take the preceding weekend to travel ahead.

Basically speaking, the timing of this all means that there is a healthy chance we get a Direct this week for Joker and 3.0.0.'s release the week after, and the coming Golden Week and promise that Joker'll be due before the month's end should really point to April 26th as the last possible day they could come out.
 

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I kind of expected Joker to release around the 15th but now it seems more and more likely that he's releasing the day of the concert. And that kinda bums me out.
Think about it this way. Worst case scenario, Joker is 2 weeks away. 2 ****ing weeks! We're so close I can taste it.
 

lukinator1

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Think about it this way. Worst case scenario, Joker is 2 weeks away. 2 ****ing weeks! We're so close I can taste it.
well, the last day of april is april 30th, so it would actually be 2 weeks and 1 day from now
 
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KatKit

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At my old college, there was a "confession tree" where people wrote things on their mind on a piece of paper and stuck it on a tree. Aside from generic greetings and a cute drawing or two, the tree was almost empty. That is, until someone posted "Yukiko is best girl". I responded with an "Actually it's Chie," thinking it would end there; I was just glad that there was a fellow geek on campus who knew about Persona. However, the next day, someone else wrote "Wrong, Rise is best girl." Then, I responded with "Calm down ladies, we all know Naoto is actually best girl."

It kept going until someone eventually said Kanji is best girl. Then the tree was filled with people agreeing that Kanji was indeed best girl. Then there was Kanji fan art posted all over the tree (my favorite was a stick figure one with his jacket and chair). By the end of the month, there was a second Kanji tree.

I saved pictures of one of the trees and posted it online elsewhere, but it was a few years back. The moral of the story is that Kanji is best girl (when it comes to P4). Even Joker's English voice actor has stated it in interviews, I kid you not.

With that being said, I romanced Kawakami (she's so cool) in P5, but Tae and Ann are equally awesome in different ways (and honorable mention goes to Sae). Granted, I'm a grown woman who mostly cares about the storylines/how relatable the characters are/what I think Joker would like/who wears the cutest outfits, IMO. Gameplay perks played a small factor in my decisions as well.

Regardless, support who you want for w/e reason (they're all cool), but Yusuke is best girl, and I hope that one day he's the de facto best girl for P5, much like Kanji is for P4 (and the orbal bike for Trails of Cold Steel, for those of you who get that reference).

More on topic, I'm not as impatient as I was earlier this month. When Joker is out, he's out. It's happening sooner rather than later, and whenever it happens, it'll be fantastic.
 
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Izanagi97

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(i keep telling myself it has to be this week surely what is life anywho)

I'd say the chances are somewhat healthy at this time. 3.0.0. is going to be big enough to warrant one, and more importantly - assuming it follows the same format as 2.0.0. - Nintendo is going to give us a week's time to back up any replays we might wanna preserve. Whether coincidence or by the actual plan, this would put Joker's release within the same week as the Persona concert. They won't be able to do this "Direct + week's wait" plan post-Easter either. Not only would that border too close to the actual end of May, but the week of April 29 is also Golden Week; a lot of businesses within Japan - including the team that works on Smash and any gaming publications like Corororo, Famitsu, etc. that could add more publicity to this - are going to likely take it off. Technically speaking, Golden Week starts as early as the 27th since the Japanese take the preceding weekend to travel ahead.

Basically speaking, the timing of this all means that there is a healthy chance we get a Direct this week for Joker and 3.0.0.'s release the week after, and the coming Golden Week and promise that Joker'll be due before the month's end should really point to April 26th as the last possible day they could come out.
I never though about it that way.
 

KirbyWorshipper2465

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Only half a month left now, give it up for day 15!


Also, remember, just because Reggie retires today doesn't necessarily mean there's going to be any news. It's just another normal day.

well, the last day of april is april 30th, so it would actually be 2 weeks and 1 day from now
Willing to bet that this is exactly what's going to happen.
 

C-G

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How do you think Joker will enter the battle? The easy answer would be he drops in from the sky in the phantom thief blur, but he could also leap through the stained glass window. Or, if Smash really wants to be cheeky, have Morgana Bus drop him off and drive away.

Also, I am putting hard money that leaping through the Kalos stained glass is in his gameplay trailer
 
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Aeon_Shadow

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Speaking of how Joker's trailer would go: I can SO imagine "Will Power" playing. It would be perfect as it's an instrumental theme that goes in line with featuring a PT's (in this case Joker) first moment to shine and would go in line with all the fighting that would happen.
 

Teeb147

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We're the 15th and there's no direct or announcement for one. We're in it for the haul. When nintendo said by the end of april, i guess they really meant by the end. But we're close, and I can taste it. Tastes like spicy lemons. (no, not sure what I mean by that either)
 

C-G

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We're the 15th and there's no direct or announcement for one. We're in it for the haul. When nintendo said by the end of april, i guess they really meant by the end. But we're close, and I can taste it. Tastes like spicy lemons. (no, not sure what I mean by that either)
Spicy Lemons is what Mega Man is hitting you with when he is in his Fire Man color
 
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No kidding, that's what I've been seriously saying before now. :dk:

Anyway, I find it a bit funny that Reggie only chose just now to open up his own Twitter account. :mybodyisreggie:
For most people with high-paying positions, Twitter ends up being more of a liability than an asset.
 

C-G

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No kidding, that's what I've been seriously saying before now. :dk:

Anyway, I find it a bit funny that Reggie only chose just now to open up his own Twitter account. :mybodyisreggie:
You KNOW his twitter would have just been buried in questions he can't answer if he did. Worst part about being a face forsomething
 

KirbyWorshipper2465

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For most people with high-paying positions, Twitter ends up being more of a liability than an asset.
Hashimoto's is a pretty good example of this; if SE has something in store they might be hiding, you don't use your account to reply to anyone posting about Smash wishlists and end up confirming people's suspicions.

You KNOW his twitter would have just been buried in questions he can't answer if he did. Worst part about being a face forsomething
The reaction to all those "Mother 3 when?" posts be like.

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Teeb147

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You KNOW his twitter would have just been buried in questions he can't answer if he did. Worst part about being a face forsomething
I wonder how long his nda lasts. I bet there's still gonna be a bunch of random smash questions XD
 

amageish

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I think Directs are always possible... I feel a bit more pessimistic for this week, but I think that's just because we've been having a "direct this week" for the past few weeks now...

Willing to bet that this is exactly what's going to happen.
This would be kinda hilarious just because Plant was so early into its release month (like, to the point where it wasn't even in its release month) and Joker would be at the end of his. It would leave everyone guessing if they announce another character with a month as their release date.

How do you think Joker will enter the battle? The easy answer would be he drops in from the sky in the phantom thief blur, but he could also leap through the stained glass window. Or, if Smash really wants to be cheeky, have Morgana Bus drop him off and drive away.
I think he may come out of the swirlly-design-thing you see across the screen whenever you enter the metaverse?
 

TheRockingGoomba

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I think Directs are always possible... I feel a bit more pessimistic for this week, but I think that's just because we've been having a "direct this week" for the past few weeks now..."
I'm the exact opposite. With every week, i get more and more confident "Yes, this is the one!"
....It's probably not going to be this week, but hey. You never know. For all we know, a Mini Direct could be announced tomorrow.
 
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ramon_zer0

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I think that's just because we've been having a "direct this week" for the past few weeks now...
Really can't be blamed through after the Best Buy leaks sorta stoking those flames as it were in that first week. We only have two more weeks left, and this one did just start, so we just need to play this out.

Personally, I'm viewing it from my crackpot angle of "Nintendo is probably going to wanna get Joker out before Golden Week, so at worst it's an 11 day wait."

(then again i'm sorta driving myself insane with all the theories about "this week is it" i make up and post here)
 
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