Social Hideout of the Phantom Thieves - Joker Social

[Deleted member]

The only reason I speculate it is possible is that we, as the general public, do not know what is up contractually between ATLUS and Sony. They did help out with funding P5 and we don't know what they got in return...

It would obviously be a PR nightmare though, which would join the conga-line of controversies they've had lately and in the past. Definitely feel sympathetic for whoever is running the ATLUS twitter account if that happens...

Also, another thing about that """""leak""""" that is weird: So, they're saying the girl in the trailer, who has a super generic self-insert-y character design with the main defining character traits being red hair and a bowtie, is not an FeMC, but there will be some other ponytail-having FeMC? Why would they do that? There are multiple options for hairstyles...

Sony funded Persona 5? Where did you hear that? I've never heard of that.

 

[amageish]

Sony funded Persona 5? Where did you hear that? I've never heard of that.

I heard it from Mystic, Persona series information translator and generally knowledgeable dude in the Persona fan community. That said, digging through the P5 credits, the only direct mention of Sony is in "Special Thanks" section of the production staff... Granted, there are so many companies listed in the credits that it is entirely possible that one or more of them is owned by Sony - but googling won't help with that, as they tend to have generic names...

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Also, everyone uses Sony phones in the anime adaptation, which is not meaningful in any way, but is kind of hilarious.

That said, this may have no effect on a port, or it may have every effect on a port. I have no clue about that.

 

[Gentlepanda]

since it changes up my theory quoted on the previous page pretty drastically, i figured i'd crosspost some recent news i also talked about on the ultimate social thread

jason schreier of kotaku saying that P5S is not P5 switch, P5 the royal is PS4-exclusive, and doesn't know if P5 switch is even a thing at all

that's... pretty bad, not gonna sugar coat it. i don't like kotaku all that much, but schreier is incredibly well-connected, and one of the only insiders i'll pay any attention to when he starts making bigger claims like this.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I gotta say, things would almost certainly be tense with Sony regardless. Given that the Vita is on the way of being dead and buried and with no more Sony portables on the horizon, ATLUS will have no other choice but to put future handheld editions of core Persona entries on the Switch, which fills that void handily.

Hi all, not a regular poster in this thread, but I'm starting to get really excited as to how Joker will play in Ultimate. I've mentioned in other places that I played through Persona 4 Golden, but not 5, so I may not necessarily know all of the nuances of Joker, but I do know he's cut from a similar cloth of being able to use Persona of any arcana, so that really does have so many exciting possibilities for his character in terms of move set.

I'm probably not as impatient for information, but I've been noticing that my hype for Joker has been slowly ramping up and I've been lurking here the past few days, so figured why not drop in more officially?

Good timing sir, it's a little over two weeks left to find out anything (17 days).

By the way, any favorite among the ladies of the cast? Just curious.

since it changes up my theory quoted on the previous page pretty drastically, i figured i'd crosspost some recent news i also talked about on the ultimate social thread

>Kotaku
Meh, in terms of credibility, those guys aren't consistent. Still going to liberally use .

 

[Flyboy]

Jason Schreier is a brilliant journalist. I don't think P5 coming to the Switch was ever a guarantee when you consider Joker was a general Atlus/SMT rep according to the press release. I'm not thinking this is a total death knell, especially because of some other things I know, but it is worth keeping in mind.

We'll know within a few weeks, so that's cool. Just gotta be patient!

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

A fairly good point was brought up on the Ultimate social.

I’m telling y’all, this persona stuff isn’t surprising.
Snake gets in smash with MGS4 content, no MGS4 port.
Sonic gets in smash, no Sonic 06 port.
Ryu gets in smash, no Street Fighter 5 port.
Cloud gets in smash, no Final Fantasy VII port.
Simon and Richter get in smash, no Castlevania Requiem port.
This has happened pretty much every single time.

That's how I feel as well. Getting in Smash does not guarantee that a game will be immediately ported to a Nintendo console. For all we know it might take years, they're still working on SMT V after all.

So for all we know, Persona 5 S might actually be a shmup, or something. If Royal is an updated re-release, it's no skin off my nose since I missed out on the original.

 

[GenesisFury]

Dont forget best buy did have persona 5 switch in their employee database. I think its less of no switch port at all, and more that p5s may not be the switch port. I could see atlus appeasing sony by releasing updated p5 and the fighting game/spin off so all 3 companies turn a profit without toes being stepped on. And i think a few Nintendo extras like diablo 3 switch had would be ok enough, most people would just be happy for mobile p5 and it being on switch. As close to win win win conditions i can see with all companies involved capitalizing on p5 hype in some way. Sounds the most probable outcome without negotiations being too extreme and taking into account what we know currently without being inside the situation.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, I feel like Persona 5 is still coming to Switch as long as we can trust Best Buy.

People are just getting too worried.

 

[EarlTamm]

I believe P5 will get to the Switch one way or another. The Best Buy leak seems pretty solid, but even without it I think the chances of it coming to Switch is at least decent.

Spoiler: Surprisingly on Topic Art

https://mobile.twitter.com/KeithMontalbo/status/1117103574117277697

 

[amageish]

I would love Persona 5 on Switch, but I do agree that the assumption it is confirmed by Joker being in Smash is weird, given how the only third-party in Smash whose games are consistently on Nintendo consoles is Bayonetta. Most of the retro picks used to be on Nintendo consoles consistently, but aren't anymore, which also applies to Joker if you count him as representing MegaTen as a whole... Like, I get thinking it after the Best Buy leak, but it's been treated as if it's inevitable by some people since day one.

That said, this report by Schreier kind of makes sense to me. Persona 5 The Royal and Persona 5 S will be announced as games for PS4 at the concert, then a port of Persona 5 can be announced for Switch further down the line when ATLUS has more resources to make it. Apparently Best Buy has been known to put these listings up waaaay in advance, so while I do trust the leak, it isn't necessarily coming now.

Yes, I am aware I am citing Jon Cartwright for the fact Best Buy puts up things in advance, even though he believes P5S will be the Switch version. I also cited Mystic earlier when discussing how Sony funds Persona titles, in spite of how he believed P5R would be multi-platform. I apparently like citing people for facts and disregarding their opinions.

 

[Naoyatodo]

I would love Persona 5 on Switch, but I do agree that the assumption it is confirmed by Joker being in Smash is weird, given how the only third-party in Smash whose games are consistently on Nintendo consoles is Bayonetta. Most of the retro picks used to be on Nintendo consoles consistently, but aren't anymore, which also applies to Joker if you count him as representing MegaTen as a whole... Like, I get thinking it after the Best Buy leak, but it's been treated as if it's inevitable by some people since day one.

That said, this report by Schreier kind of makes sense to me. Persona 5 The Royal and Persona 5 S will be announced as games for PS4 at the concert, then a port of Persona 5 can be announced for Switch further down the line when ATLUS has more resources to make it. Apparently Best Buy has been known to put these listings up waaaay in advance, so while I do trust the leak, it isn't necessarily coming now.

Yes, I am aware I am citing Jon Cartwright for the fact Best Buy puts up things in advance, even though he believes P5S will be the Switch version. I also cited Mystic earlier when discussing how Sony funds Persona titles, in spite of how he believed P5R would be multi-platform. I apparently like citing people for facts and disregarding their opinions.

Obviously, a third party character being in Smash doesn't guarantee their game coming to a Nintendo platform under normal circumstances, but Nintendo was the one who chose the DLC characters this time around. Every character choice has to financially benefit them somehow, and I can't see how Joker's inclusion would do that without a P5 port.

The whole thing's just confusing.

 

[osby]

Obviously, a third party character being in Smash doesn't guarantee their game coming to a Nintendo platform under normal circumstances, but Nintendo was the one who chose the DLC characters this time around. Every character choice has to financially benefit them somehow, and I can't see how Joker's inclusion would do that without a P5 port.

The whole thing's just confusing.

It will make people buy Joker as DLC. I don't think every single character has to promote another game to make financial sense.

 

[Naoyatodo]

It will make people buy Joker as DLC. I don't think every single character has to promote another game to make financial sense.

It doesn't, but Nintendo's gonna wanna attract customers one way or the other. It isn't always promoting games to Smash's fanbase, but it could also be the inverse, promoting Smash to a series's fanbase.

Given that Persona's fanbase is likely smaller than Smash's, I would assume it's the former.

 

[amageish]

It doesn't, but Nintendo's gonna wanna attract customers one way or the other. It isn't always promoting games to Smash's fanbase, but it could also be the inverse, promoting Smash to a series's fanbase.

Given that Persona's fanbase is likely smaller than Smash's, I would assume it's the former.

True, though I at least do personally know multiple people who are now buying Switches and Smash Brothers with Joker in Smash being what pushed them over. Obviously those people aren't in a majority, but there are some benefits to trying to get a fanbase typically tied to a rival console invested in your game.

Plus, I'm willing to bet people will be discussing SMTV and other ATLUS titles more because of this, even if Joker himself is not in those titles.

 

[Flyboy]

That's the thing, Joker actually does promote a game on a Nintendo console, Persona Q2, and he provides cross-fandom hype with people who love Persona coming to Smash to play as him and people who may not know Joker checking out Q2 or MegaTen as a whole (once again, as stated by Nintendo themselves). Plus I mean, the style and beauty of Persona 5 itself is enough to sell and make financial sense. Joker is just plain cool.

 

[C-G]

Leaked phone call from Nintendo HQ. Courtesy of my uncle who works there.

Sakurai: Hello?

Atlus: Hello Mr Sakurai. Just calling to make sure Joker's coming along smoothly

Sakurai: Oh he's coming along smoothly. Should make our target window of the end of April.

Atlus: Good, good. Hey, we got this Persona thing coming out the 24th and 25th. Gonna be discussing that new P5R project then. Perhaps we could coordinate the release with that.

Sakurai: I don't see why not. We said Joker would come out in April, so no skin off our nose to release him during that event. More time to polish him if anything.

Atlus: Fantastic. I love it when everything lines up and everyone can fulfill their promises. No way the internet can be mad at us.

Sakurai: Yes. You get some free promotion, we still make our window, and we get to please our respective fanbases.

And then everyone got impatient anyways

 

[Polan]

Hmm.....

https://gearnuke.com/persona-5-the-royal-persona-5-s-persona-5-a-report/

announcing an enhanced version, then announcing an unenhanced port is such a birdbrained move. there's a reason why so many companies wait a bit before announcing that type of stuff. the other alternative (there's no persona switch) is just as bad but it's at least understandable. either one is gonna get atlus on a lot of people's ****lists tho.

 

[amageish]

That's the thing, Joker actually does promote a game on a Nintendo console, Persona Q2, and he provides cross-fandom hype with people who love Persona coming to Smash to play as him and people who may not know Joker checking out Q2 or MegaTen as a whole (once again, as stated by Nintendo themselves). Plus I mean, the style and beauty of Persona 5 itself is enough to sell and make financial sense. Joker is just plain cool.

Plus, Sakurai is a fanboy and gets to work with a franchise he really enjoys. There are a plurality of reasons to include Joker.

People acting like ATLUS is obligated to make Persona 5 come out on Switch because of it is... well, frankly, kind of silly? It's fine to want things, but acting like a company is obligated to give you something because rumors and speculation spread about it is dumb. It'd be like people blaming Nintendo for not having a Direct on the 11th--they never said they were going to do it, so it's not really their fault that they didn't?

Obviously I'd love Persona 5 on Switch, just like how I would have loved a Direct on Thursday, but it's kind of an asshat move to complain about not getting something that you were never promised...

 

[GenesisFury]

I mean slowly but surely, the third party reps have made it to nintendo, even cloud has recently with his source game. The persona 5 port may not release simultaneously but best buy hasn't ever had games in their database that never released. Thats as hard of a confirm as we can have without atlus confirming it personally. They either way make money off dlc sales, switches, and ultimate itself so they definitely turn a profit. Smt fandom while annoyed it isnt a smt rep, also have mostly come around. That said, i think that switch owners just would be happy with nintendo only costumes and cosmetics and weapons. Might be a riot at first but they would get over it quickly. Im 50/50 on whether itll have more content beyond that, safer bet is to think we are getting a port with a few extras. Anything more is a bonus and would be great.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Honestly, I never expected MGS4 to get a Wii port, and Sonic later got spin-offs on the Wii not related to '06 anyway.

Between this and the whole spirits debacle, people are acting as if these kinds of things never happened before.

 

[Deleted member]

This is just a matter of patience, since we know that Joker is coming this month for sure (or at least I do from a Nintendo newsletter I got through e-mail).

And patience is what I am good at, so I can keep myself up easily.

 

[amageish]

I mean slowly but surely, the third party reps have made it to nintendo, even cloud has recently with his source game. The persona 5 port may not release simultaneously but best buy hasn't ever had games in their database that never released. Thats as hard of a confirm as we can have without atlus confirming it personally.

I do agree it will happen eventually, but people acting as if it has to be announced this month at the Persona Sound-Bomb are getting annoying...

This is just a matter of patience, since we know that Joker is coming this month for sure (or at least I do from a Nintendo newsletter I got through e-mail).

Yeah, the newsletter is thankfully here to debunk any delay rumors...

For the record, version 2.0.0. was given a release window of "within the week" on January 25th and then was released January 29th. So, I'd expect at least a 4 day notice prior to his release.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

If some uninitiated people paid attention to the release window of vanilla P5 back in the day, they would have went loony by the time the game finally dropped 3 years later.

So don't be surprised if something similar happens for any possible Switch port.

 

[Flyboy]

If some uninitiated people paid attention to the release window of vanilla P5 back in the day, they would have went loony by the time the game finally dropped 3 years later.

So don't be surprised if something similar happens for any possible Switch port.

That's the funniest part to me. Like, I've been in long enough to remember "Coming Winter 2014" and literally only having an image of chairs and "You are slave? Want emancipation?" to speculate over.

Heck, I remember when we didn't even think we'd GET a Persona 5.

 

[EarlTamm]

That's the funniest part to me. Like, I've been in long enough to remember "Coming Winter 2014" and literally only having an image of chairs and "You are slave? Want emancipation?" to speculate over.

Heck, I remember when we didn't even think we'd GET a Persona 5.

Many Smash and new P5 fans: "Oh god, I can't believe we have to possibly wait till the end of April for Joker! This wait is ridiculous!"
Persona Veterans:

 

[Deleted member]

Many Smash and new P5 fans: "Oh god, I can't believe we have to possibly wait till the end of April for Joker! This wait is ridiculous!"
Persona Veterans:

Veteran Godzilla and Fantastic Four fans:

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Many Smash and new P5 fans: "Oh god, I can't believe we have to possibly wait till the end of April for Joker! This wait is ridiculous!"
Persona Veterans:

Wario and Shantae fans:

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Many Smash and new P5 fans: "Oh god, I can't believe we have to possibly wait till the end of April for Joker! This wait is ridiculous!"
Persona Veterans:

This reminds me of a line from the simpsons that I'm totally going to misquote: "I mean it's true, but you don't have to say it."

 

[EarlTamm]

Veteran Godzilla and Fantastic Four fans:

Wario and Shantae fans:

Because I started a bunch of laughing in a Persona 5 thread, I feel obligated to put up this.

Also, who is looking forward to the new Joker movie?

This reminds me of a line from the simpsons that I'm totally going to misquote: "I mean it's true, but you don't have to say it."

I will respond with a different Simpsons quote.

 

[Izanagi97]

I think it's more like the shorter the wait the longer it feels.

 

[C-G]

Veteran Godzilla and Fantastic Four fans:

Wario and Shantae fans:

Persona Veterans:

SQUARE-ENIX FANS:

 

[Roguewolf]

And if you play all of these laugh videos at the same time you'll go insane

Yaaaaaaaaay

 

[EricTheGamerman]

I gotta say, things would almost certainly be tense with Sony regardless. Given that the Vita is on the way of being dead and buried and with no more Sony portables on the horizon, ATLUS will have no other choice but to put future handheld editions of core Persona entries on the Switch, which fills that void handily.



Good timing sir, it's a little over two weeks left to find out anything (17 days).

By the way, any favorite among the ladies of the cast? Just curious.

Yeah, I figured it was a good time to drop by since we should be getting reaaaal close to his actual release.

Ladies of Persona 4? Well, I kind of accidentally stumbled into the harem by not entirely wanting to commit to actions that felt too harsh in the context of the moment (I think it was Yumi crying after her dad dying and comforting her with a hug seemed like an entirely reasonable option at the time as opposed to whatever else was offered). I had originally chosen to date Yukiko, so it was kind of a, "Well, screw it, I'll just see what happens" kind of moment since I didn't really like the idea of reloading the save at that point and I already knew you didn't face game consequences for it. I felt like similar things happened in the story where you couldn't really reject many of the girls without coming off too harsh TBH. I generally really do love all of the characters though, and that includes Marie despite how underdeveloped she is and how much hate she sometimes gets for being such a meager addition to Golden.

That said, Naoto was probably my favorite. I loved her whole story and as someone who has sometimes questioned gender identity, I suppose I related to her. I think that particular story isn't handled as well as it probably needed to be, but I also think it gets heavily misinterpreted by some people. She's also just really cool as the detective type and being the major voice of reason of the group. It also helps when her Persona was a personal favorite that got me through a lot of situations haha.


Also, I forget who mentioned this a while back, but I'm unlikely to care about spoilers for Persona 5 even though I haven't played it. Spoilers really don't bother me too much and if posts seem to story heavy or focused, I'll tend to skim past them anyway haha. I'm much more interested in seeing how a story plays out and seeing all of it myself than I am just knowing about the occurrence of a specific event.

 

[EarlTamm]

Yeah, I figured it was a good time to drop by since we should be getting reaaaal close to his actual release.

Ladies of Persona 4? Well, I kind of accidentally stumbled into the harem by not entirely wanting to commit to actions that felt too harsh in the context of the moment (I think it was Yumi crying after her dad dying and comforting her with a hug seemed like an entirely reasonable option at the time as opposed to whatever else was offered). I had originally chosen to date Yukiko, so it was kind of a, "Well, screw it, I'll just see what happens" kind of moment since I didn't really like the idea of reloading the save at that point and I already knew you didn't face game consequences for it. I felt like similar things happened in the story where you couldn't really reject many of the girls without coming off too harsh TBH. I generally really do love all of the characters though, and that includes Marie despite how underdeveloped she is and how much hate she sometimes gets for being such a meager addition to Golden.

That said, Naoto was probably my favorite. I loved her whole story and as someone who has sometimes questioned gender identity, I suppose I related to her. I think that particular story isn't handled as well as it probably needed to be, but I also think it gets heavily misinterpreted by some people. She's also just really cool as the detective type and being the major voice of reason of the group. It also helps when her Persona was a personal favorite that got me through a lot of situations haha.


Also, I forget who mentioned this a while back, but I'm unlikely to care about spoilers for Persona 5 even though I haven't played it. Spoilers really don't bother me too much and if posts seem to story heavy or focused, I'll tend to skim past them anyway haha. I'm much more interested in seeing how a story plays out and seeing all of it myself than I am just knowing about the occurrence of a specific event.

How did you feel when Valentines Day came around then.

Naoto is my favorite as well and I will certainly agree that her story has been heavily misinterpreted by some people.

Also good to know about the spoiler thing, I was kinda worrying about that.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Well, 16 days to go now.

Yeah, I figured it was a good time to drop by since we should be getting reaaaal close to his actual release.

Ladies of Persona 4? Well, I kind of accidentally stumbled into the harem by not entirely wanting to commit to actions that felt too harsh in the context of the moment (I think it was Yumi crying after her dad dying and comforting her with a hug seemed like an entirely reasonable option at the time as opposed to whatever else was offered). I had originally chosen to date Yukiko, so it was kind of a, "Well, screw it, I'll just see what happens" kind of moment since I didn't really like the idea of reloading the save at that point and I already knew you didn't face game consequences for it. I felt like similar things happened in the story where you couldn't really reject many of the girls without coming off too harsh TBH. I generally really do love all of the characters though, and that includes Marie despite how underdeveloped she is and how much hate she sometimes gets for being such a meager addition to Golden.

That said, Naoto was probably my favorite. I loved her whole story and as someone who has sometimes questioned gender identity, I suppose I related to her. I think that particular story isn't handled as well as it probably needed to be, but I also think it gets heavily misinterpreted by some people. She's also just really cool as the detective type and being the major voice of reason of the group. It also helps when her Persona was a personal favorite that got me through a lot of situations haha.


Also, I forget who mentioned this a while back, but I'm unlikely to care about spoilers for Persona 5 even though I haven't played it. Spoilers really don't bother me too much and if posts seem to story heavy or focused, I'll tend to skim past them anyway haha. I'm much more interested in seeing how a story plays out and seeing all of it myself than I am just knowing about the occurrence of a specific event.

Well, I actually meant among the ladies of P5, but that's fair reasoning.

Also, I feel the same thing about spoilers. I was raised on not being bothered by spoilers by reading Nintendo Power mags as a kid, so it was unlikely for me to go into the NES and Game Boy s blind (although I do like a good surprise from time to time).

 

[EricTheGamerman]

How did you feel when Valentines Day came around then.

Naoto is my favorite as well and I will certainly agree that her story has been heavily misinterpreted by some people.

Also good to know about the spoiler thing, I was kinda worrying about that.

Valentine's Day certainly hurts, but I suffered through it since it didn't have any gameplay ramifications. By that point, I was pretty much certain that Naoto was the character I was interested in anyway and it's not like the game really gives an option to break up with anyone either so it felt like a harsh way to do that. I basically prioritized all of the solo interactions with Naoto that I could as well. But yeah, it's not a pleasant experience going through Valentine's Day and if I ever do another playthrough I certainly won't repeat my actions. Part of it was also a genuine curiosity to see how the game handled relationships and I'm not the most likely to do second playthroughs, so again, I sacrificed a bit of my role play and commitment as Yu to see what I was interested in. But yeah, Valentine's Day works about as well as any in-game punishment because of how much it makes you feel like a real piece of **** for not committing (Except Marie lol).

But yeah, Naoto immediately struck me as a character I was interested in learning more about and I'm glad that I took the time to get to know her best and see her struggle in game. Of the realizing one's true self narratives in the game, I thought her was just the most interesting because of how genuinely conflicted and unsure she was about everything.

And yeah, spoilers really don't bother me in the least bit and the last thing I want to see is conversation restricted because I'm around. Feel free to continue on as normal! Hell, I might end up just playing through Persona 5 on PS4 since I know the price is dropping and i know I'd adore it.



Though, yeah, sadly I can't comment much about the girls in Persona 5 quite yet haha.

 

[EarlTamm]

Valentine's Day certainly hurts, but I suffered through it since it didn't have any gameplay ramifications. By that point, I was pretty much certain that Naoto was the character I was interested in anyway and it's not like the game really gives an option to break up with anyone either so it felt like a harsh way to do that. I basically prioritized all of the solo interactions with Naoto that I could as well. But yeah, it's not a pleasant experience going through Valentine's Day and if I ever do another playthrough I certainly won't repeat my actions. Part of it was also a genuine curiosity to see how the game handled relationships and I'm not the most likely to do second playthroughs, so again, I sacrificed a bit of my role play and commitment as Yu to see what I was interested in. But yeah, Valentine's Day works about as well as any in-game punishment because of how much it makes you feel like a real piece of **** for not committing (Except Marie lol).

But yeah, Naoto immediately struck me as a character I was interested in learning more about and I'm glad that I took the time to get to know her best and see her struggle in game. Of the realizing one's true self narratives in the game, I thought her was just the most interesting because of how genuinely conflicted and unsure she was about everything.

And yeah, spoilers really don't bother me in the least bit and the last thing I want to see is conversation restricted because I'm around. Feel free to continue on as normal! Hell, I might end up just playing through Persona 5 on PS4 since I know the price is dropping and i know I'd adore it.



Though, yeah, sadly I can't comment much about the girls in Persona 5 quite yet haha.

I will say, P5s Valentines Day isn't as brutal as P4s if you decide to date multiple girls, but there are still consequences.

Perhaps you could give your first impression of the P5 girls from what you have seen?

 

[EricTheGamerman]

I will say, P5s Valentines Day isn't as brutal as P4s if you decide to date multiple girls, but there are still consequences.

Perhaps you could give your first impression of the P5 girls from what you have seen?

Hmm... I don't really know a ton about them, so this is going to be rough. But I'll give the impressions of the three I kind of know about:

Ann seems to definitely be a bit more of the upfront Rise type, just without the stardom and maybe a little more confrontational?

Futaba seems to be the nerdy, shy type who potentially opens up as the game progresses. She's the character I'd be interested in exploring a little more to see if they do her well or just overly play into her stereotypes like they did parts of Chie...

And Kawakami is the teacher that you can romance right? So... Yeah, that's a little strange, but again, I'm interested to see how that potentially works out lol.

Those are the only three I really know of haha. I've done pretty well about avoiding a good deal of Persona 5 stuff somehow.



Also, I don't think I've ever mentioned it, but I'm a big fan of RWBY as well and super appreciate the "done with the world" Ruby avatar haha.

 

[SmashKeks]

And Kawakami is the teacher that you can romance right? So... Yeah, that's a little strange, but again, I'm interested to see how that potentially works out lol.

I can't lie, if and when I finally have the honor of playing P5, I want to go in as unspoiled as possible, that said I've heard it really easy to mess up the teacher route early game and that's definitely the person I want to date. If I'm going to spoil myself to cheese any part of the game, it'll be that just so I don't mess up the dialogue trees.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Out of the girls in the main party my favorite to least favorite goes something like this: Makoto, Futaba, Ann then Haru.

Out of those 4 the only I feel comfortable dating in game is makoto. Futaba feels more like a little sister, Haru joins the party way too late to leave an impact and I already ship Ann with Ryuji. Also Makoto just has traits I find most appealing so that's another factor.

And as for the girls outside the party, I like Takemi best, then Kawakami, then Ohya. I never maxed out the shogi player and the fortune teller so I don't remember much about them