Hey guys idk if you'll hate on this but....

[Nine]

Well i know there is the thread in the brawl discussion about Smash Brothers 4 but I'd like some thread where melee players share their ideas in the next smash brothers. I know it might be because Nintendo doesn't support competitive players and all so we melee players give up and stay with melee. But you never know some ideas from the melee community would help :D Even if it ends up like brawl (which i pray it won't) some people can mod it into a melee-ish feel. I still play melee a lot and i don't like mods but when i tried Project M it was the closest feel to melee. Its still not exactly like melee but its something. Please share your opinions about the next smash brothers whether it'll be a fail like brawl or that this thread is stupid or maybe Nintendo and Sakurai will make things right this time. Afterall Brawl was the first failure to be competitive and technical like melee or N64.

 

[00000001]

Based upon the design and the goal Nintendo seems to have with the Wii-U, it doesn't seem like the next smash brothers will be any better than brawl, when you consider the fact that any game put out on the system is going to attempt in some way to use the novelty features of the new system (like that big *** controller). I would say that unless we can somehow get our ideas to the top level at Nintendo and they find that it would be a good idea to make another competitive fighting game, and it's cost effective...Then I think we will get our wishes. BUT who can say if that will be the case, and who knows, it might be one of their flagship games - they might not even give a **** about tournament play and such. Sure seems that way. There's always melee though.

 

[crush]

Let's talk about how this thread is stupid.

 

[CableCho57]

ALL they had to do was keep the physics and mechanics and controls, and just add new characters, stages, and better graphics. new players won't know the difference and melee community will be happy

 

[T.J.]

From what I heard from some random post here (So probably not creditable info)
Is that it's starting from where brawl left off.
So it's all ready on a track for competitive failure.

 

[Nine]

ALL they had to do was keep the physics and mechanics and controls, and just add new characters, stages, and better graphics. new players won't know the difference and melee community will be happy

Those are my exact thoughts.

 

[Nine]

From what I heard from some random post here (So probably not creditable info)
Is that it's starting from where brawl left off.
So it's all ready on a track for competitive failure.

Yes I know that is because of the brawl community that seems to still be with the same topics that caused the fall of smash.

 

[Juggleguy]

It's gonna suck at we're gonna stick with Melee, simple as that.

 

[Nine]

It's gonna suck at we're gonna stick with Melee, simple as that.

Yes probably I'll still be playing melee too here. But I still like to give some hope and thoughts into it. we can't be too ****** at Nintendo and Sakurai just for one mistake: Brawl.
Maybe there's still a chance.

 

[shadowbind]

Hey guys its my old account yes its Nine lol i guess ill stick with both but anyways
Come on melee community we can't just hate Nintendo and Sakurai for life can we?

 

[Tekk]

Wait & See

 

[Pi]

i hope they take out buffering at least

 

[The Star King]

I hope they take out hitstun cancelling at least

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

I hope they take out stupid moon physics at least

 

[TheLostHylian]

I hope they unintentionally give us advanced techniques not intended for the game again.

And I want Oni Link playable. But that won't happen.

 

[MasterShake]

I hope they unintentionally give us advanced techniques not intended for the game again.

I wouldn't say they were not intended...more like they had no idea how they would be used.

 

[Glöwworm]

As far as wavedashing/wavelanding goes, I find it logical that you would slide on the floor if your angled spot dodge is interrupted by the floor.

 

[Varist]

As far as wavedashing/wavelanding goes, I find it logical that you would slide on the floor if your angled spot dodge is interrupted by the floor.

wait, you can angle spot dodges? how the **** does that work?

 

[slartibartfast42]

Well, I love me some guilty gear, and I wouldn't mind if smash incorporated some of the AT's from there, which would be sick. Imagine smash with super meters and roman canceling. *drool* The combo potential would be even more ridiculous.

The problem is they have to keep in most brawl characters with similar movesets.

 

[Glöwworm]

wait, you can angle spot dodges? how the **** does that work?

wat

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Wavedash

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Air_dodging (spot dodging is another term)

 

[Pi]

Well, I love me some guilty gear, and I wouldn't mind if smash incorporated some of the AT's from there, which would be sick. Imagine smash with super meters and roman canceling. *drool* The combo potential would be even more ridiculous.

The problem is they have to keep in most brawl characters with similar movesets.

it's not the combo's that make melee different from brawl lol...

 

[Varist]

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Spot_Dodging

spot dodging is its own thing

 

[N64]

smash 4 will be what it is. We can ponder and pretend like our opinions will make it to Sakurai's ears (and that he'll care), but from the direction Brawl took and his statements on never wanting to go through a development process as grueling as Melee's again, it is highly unlikely something like Melee will remerge in any of smash's future iterations.

Don't expect it to be like a Melee 2. It could very well still be a fun game on its own merits, and you should wait until it's out to find out for yourself, but going in hoping it will be Melee 2 is just going to leave you disappointed. Let it be what it is.

 

[Beat!]

wat

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Wavedash

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Air_dodging (spot dodging is another term)

Spot dodging and air dodging are different things.

 

[Myztek]

If they speed up the game, add hit stun, and actually put effort into the animations and sound effects, then it'll probably be decent.

Otherwise, I'm currently expecting a Brawl expansion. Hopefully I'll be surprised.

 

[Bones0]

People need to accept there won't be another game like Melee. Even if Melee was ported to the new console, it doesn't seem like there would even be a controller that allows competition to even be viable.

 

[Life]

>create thread about SSB4 in Melee section
>expect people to not complain about how terrible a game that isn't even in development yet is

 

[Hydro_Smasher]

The fact that I can't has gamecube controller pisses me off enough.

also, 300th post.

 

[Conviction]

People need to accept there won't be another game like Melee. Even if Melee was ported to the new console, it doesn't seem like there would even be a controller that allows competition to even be viable.

We told him this in the original SSB4 thread. He is going to side step this post like he did all the others in the last. We even went further to educate him that brawl actually shares some melee physics, bar the floatiness and coding error in hitstun. So Brawl as a starting point actually means Melee as a starting point, in a sense. Oh and there is still hope for a GCC type controller that everyone is praying for. There are USB ports, so ports for GCC or GCC remake?

>create thread about SSB4 in Melee section
>expect people to not complain about how terrible a game that isn't even in development yet is

WELL DAMN. Got his ***.

@Overall reason for creating this thread:

We out.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Don't expect it to be like a Melee 2. It could very well still be a fun game on its own merits, and you should wait until it's out to find out for yourself, but going in hoping it will be Melee 2 is just going to leave you disappointed. Let it be what it is.

Exactly, I don't know why some people expect this game to be exactly like Melee, don't get me wrong though I love Melee alot but I believe Smash 4 can be unique in it's own way. Hoping for something that might not happen will only leave you shattered at the end.

 

[slartibartfast42]

it's not the combo's that make melee different from brawl lol...

Did I say it was? Less combo potential is just one of many differences.

 

[Conviction]

Could you state the many differences for me?

 

[Glöwworm]

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Spot_Dodging

spot dodging is its own thing

Spot dodging and air dodging are different things.

LOL I see. Okay, what I meant was air dodging.

 

[Nine]

Yea that new smash probably won't be good and be another brawl...
But idk i want to believe but not get my hopes up too much..
One thing I'm hoping is For the next smash bros to be made with the help of Yoshinori Ono.
He knows what fighting games are and such.

 

[Lukahn]

It's gonna be... wait for it... LEGEEEEEEEEENNNNNDARY or It will be a total trash/****/failure/<whatever term meaning it will suck> arguments can be countered be one simple question.
"Can you please tell us why you think that ?"

Beacause this is a game which is still in development and upon we have approximatively not a ****in piece of technical info. So how can it be a discussion?

Yes, I think this thread is stupid. And yes, you were right : I rage on it.

Have a nice day though =D

 

[Nine]

exactly lol
i guess ill hope for Ono to help with smash only till then will i believe the next smash brothers won't be complete trash. lol

 

[OmegaXXII]

IMO you are wrong!!

If you want to play Street fighter style of games go pick up a title, heck there are over a 100 titles to choose from; help yourself, but if you want to incorporate it into Smash, man you are SO wrong!! It's just not going to workout IMO.

 

[Nine]

It might not be good i mean theres few possibilities. I can say it will be fun in some way obviously. But what im trying to get to is the competition. I mean The Wii U tablet is already a flaw for competitive games. The layout and that touchscreen make it bad for us and the wireless as well.
Maybe MadCatz can do something if Nintendo doesn't act (which I doubt) Nintendo does not support us competitive gamers and that just makes me sad. :/

 

[Metal Reeper]

Brawl was too bad. It honestly makes me not even try to get excited for new game. Especially since newer games are being made to baby the **** out of you. Even if you play halo or some game online you get exp etc for losing.
I haven't really heard anything about this. I'm sure everyone from Melee will never switch over.
But Project M is cool guy

 

[slartibartfast42]

Could you state the many differences for me?

I could. But then again you could just read any posts on the matter here. Or you could watch matches of either game. Or you could actually play each game and realize for yourself that melee has more combos, much more involved ledgeguarding, more involved shield pressure, etc etc etc that makes it more interesting, at least in my opinion. Brawl certainly takes skill to play but it's not my cup of tea, I get ridiculously bored after a half hour or so, when I can play melee for days in a row and still be excited.