Help me with Jiggs research

[Veril]

Fellow Jiggs, I could really use your help!

Every day I find something new. Seriously. Testing is hard word though, and I really do not and should not be doing as much of it as I am now. Illinialex won't be doing any testing as far as I know. He did an enormous amount. Fill the void people.

Please help me. There is so much we could still get. If somethings already been found, and I don't know it, its because it isn't visible. Post it.



Here's what could help us out.


-The new rest KO% with DI and momentum canceling techniques. Those would be nice...

-KO% for f-air (side of stage), dash-attack, up-smash, and f-smash.

-combos, pseudo combos, and effective "strings" (hint... they exist)

-moves that trip and the %

-video for the f-tilt tether block trick.

-Double stick and GDI info, video, etc

-who can be grabbed off the ledge

-new and current matchup information and discussion threads.

-probably a lot of things I've missed

 

[GeneralWoodman]

veril i found recently that if u fast fall a dair and time it perfectly so that the last kick hits and ur not low enuf to experiance lag that it combos with rest perfectly. ive had it done a few times in matches and if they sheild, ur still in a good position to pund, fair or fast fall to grab
when i say fast fall a dair i mean from reall high up, about 3 full jumps. if perfromed right ur opponent should go into that upside down spin animation where u can then set up the rest

 

[PND]

May I suggest another area of testing?

With all the advancements in DI, I recommend that we work on getting the new rest kill percentages, factoring in proper DI.

 

[illinialex24]

May I suggest another area of testing?

With all the advancements in DI, I recommend that we work on getting the new rest kill percentages, factoring in proper DI.

Yeah and new techniques like bucket canceling.

 

[Veril]

fixed. Yeah, Link can survive past 110% on Final D if he FF d-airs.

That's not really my research though. I really want Jiggs frame data.

 

[Meow n Stuff]

Yeah and new techniques like bucket canceling.

wierd stuff like bair - baby rollout would be interesting to test out. lol

but hopefully we'll find someone that can help out in the jigglypuff frames department. :/

 

[illinialex24]

wierd stuff like bair - baby rollout would be interesting to test out. lol

but hopefully we'll find someone that can help out in the jigglypuff frames department. :/

I'm doing it but I've been lazy because of finals. When they are over I'm gonna start them again.

 

[Maniclysane]

wierd stuff like bair - baby rollout would be interesting to test out. lol

but hopefully we'll find someone that can help out in the jigglypuff frames department. :/

Meow is on the Jiggz boards! <33333

Back on topic: I think I can help you with 7, but I don't have equipment or knowledge to collect frame data, unless someone can tell me how. :X

 

[rinoH]

i would help but i dont like testing things

 

[RhedKing]

hey Illin' I tried to get frame data but it says my wii's update level is to high so it fails, any suggestions on how to remove updates/avoid altogether?

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

Yeah and new techniques like bucket canceling.

mabey rest or sing plus DI = new bucket cancel? lol jk. (????)

The way to find ATs is to pick out exploits in the games physics. Jigg's air speed can possibly be exploited, as can his pivot and foxtrot. (hint hint, experement)

 

[illinialex24]

hey Illin' I tried to get frame data but it says my wii's update level is to high so it fails, any suggestions on how to remove updates/avoid altogether?

You need a capture card. I'm gonna do it.

 

[Veril]

mabey rest or sing plus DI = new bucket cancel? lol jk. (????)

The way to find ATs is to pick out exploits in the games physics. Jigg's air speed can possibly be exploited, as can his pivot and foxtrot. (hint hint, experement)

Pivot and foxtrot aren't exactly unexplored territory. Jiggs airspeed is a fundamental component of her game, not an AT and not really something that needs experimenting... just a lot of playing the game.

I thought a rest cancel could work at one point, it doesn't. Sing doesn't either. Sry.


Oh, and Thanks Alex! I want that dodge data sooo bad.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

lol Veril, this should be a new section on the jigglypuff testing grounds xD.
Veril Search Squad FTW

You need a capture card. I'm gonna do it.

You should post a vid frame by frame of some attacks.

 

[Veril]

lol Veril, this should be a new section on the jigglypuff testing grounds xD.
Veril Search Squad FTW

You should post a vid frame by frame of some attacks.

That thread is so dead. I might ask Jeepy if I can take it over.

That name is awesome. I may just use it...


That vid would be long and boring. Numbers are fine for me.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

That thread is so dead. I might ask Jeepy if I can take it over.

That name is awesome. I may just use it...


That vid would be long and boring. Numbers are fine for me.

Yey! you used my idea!!

And the vid would be boring, but he could move the frames faster like a slide show, and it would go faster. But I would like to see how the vid would look.

 

[illinialex24]

OK GUYS. I am going to be getting frame data. I cannot get screenshots because of very very stupid issues with V-dub so I cannot get a screenshot of every frame. Because it turns the screen green. But I will be getting the frame data starting this Saturday.

 

[RhedKing]

Sing times please! !!

I need:
the length of sing from button press to ASA shield comes up
The sleeping times every 20 damage(up to 200&(from going to sleep animation to waking up animation.)(please button mash for this)

The time when the first second, and third waves start.

if you could get all of this that would be incredibly awesome. I would find a way to repay you some how.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

When Rests Collide?????

Could it happen? has anyone tried it? What would happen?

I don't think it is possible because of the invincibility frames, but would it work?????

Smexi-er than the falcon pwanch collision.

My idea. (just in case I die trying you can report how I boldly whent where no man has gone before.)

EDIT: Im also trying it in melee.

 

[Noobicidal]

Could it happen? has anyone tried it? What would happen?

I've been trying for the last 15 minutes to no avail. Either one of the Jiggs gets priority against the other, or they just nap for a bit.

Might try Melee in a bit.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

I've been trying for the last 15 minutes to no avail. Either one of the Jiggs gets priority against the other, or they just nap for a bit.

Might try Melee in a bit.

Timing may be almost impossible. You have to meet at the same frame.

The invincibility frames will most likely stop it from working.

 

[Noobicidal]

Aha! Found my other Wavebird receiver. Still nothing besides cute li'l nappin' 'puffs.

Spoiler

10apostrophes

 

[Veril]

Timing may be almost impossible. You have to meet at the same frame.

The invincibility frames will most likely stop it from working.

You kids...

Invincibility frames start at the first frame, thus they will both be unharmed.

Thanks Alex. I'm really excited to see that data.

Sing times please! !!

I need:
the length of sing from button press to ASA shield comes up
The sleeping times every 20 damage(up to 200&(from going to sleep animation to waking up animation.)(please button mash for this)

The time when the first second, and third waves start.

if you could get all of this that would be incredibly awesome. I would find a way to repay you some how.

You are simply asking for frame data here...

The sleep times you are very capable of testing yourself, sing boy.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

You kids...

Invincibility frames start at the first frame, thus they will both be unharmed.

I was thinking the same thing.

But there is only one way to find out.

 

[Noobicidal]

But there is only one way to find out.

Yeah, set two Wavebirds to the same frequency, get both 'Puffs next to a wall (e.g. Temple, Corneria, Onett), and have them rest.

Oh wait...

 

[Veril]

Help me b****es! Now!

bumpity bump bump.

 

[Metatitan]

what do u want us to do commander

 

[GeneralWoodman]

Aha! Found my other Wavebird receiver. Still nothing besides cute li'l nappin' 'puffs.

Spoiler

10apostrophes

if u set two controllers to the same sequence they mimic eachother so u could have two jiggz resting at the same exact time, not sure wut would happen tho
EDIT: didn't c ur other post lol yeh u get the point

 

[Metatitan]

if u had two jigglypuffs rest eachother at the sane time, theoretically nothing would happen. the invincibility from rest would protect themselves from either attack

 

[Veril]

if u had two jigglypuffs rest eachother at the sane time, theoretically nothing would happen. the invincibility from rest would protect themselves from either attack

This!

Also, I don't care. Please post something related to the things we need tested.