Heir to the Monado. Shulk General Discussion/Social Thread

[Berserker.]

Hm.... Apparently, smash stance takes 20% extra damage. Is the "reduced defense" constant? As in like, it stays at 20% and that's it?

I'll get his attention since this question might derail the weight list rankings thread a bit

@ KuroganeHammer hai

Edit: Monado buster vision counter seems to be a no-no. I checked one match with Shulk vs Sheik. Sheik was at a low percentage then the Shulk player used a perfectly timed counter then got punished due to buster's knockback debuff

 

[zippy3214]

Hm.... Apparently, smash stance takes 20% extra damage. Is the "reduced defense" constant? As in like, it stays at 20% and that's it?

I'll get his attention since this question might derail the weight list rankings thread a bit

@ KuroganeHammer hai

Edit: Monado buster vision counter seems to be a no-no. I checked one match with Shulk vs Sheik. Sheik was at a low percentage then the Shulk player used a perfectly timed counter then got punished due to buster's knockback debuff

It could probably work if the person is at a higher %. Buster mode, I think, doesn't make his moves have set knockback, but just lowers the knockback.

 

[Berserker.]

It could probably work if the person is at a higher %. Buster mode, I think, doesn't make his moves have set knockback, but just lowers the knockback.

I know that it doesn't have a set knockback. For lower %'s, it's kinda unsafe but maybe at mid-high %'s (I'm talking with buster on) it's safe since it probably deals enough knockback at that point

With smash though, I think it's consistently safe since it knocks back the opponent enough

 

[Jje09]

This is a pretty good video about shulk's moveset here.

 

[Berserker.]

Does anyone know the exact amount of damage Buster increases? Is it a percentage of an attack (ex: +20% of the damage dealt by x) instead of an added bonus percentage (20%+damage dealt by x)?

 

[Deleted member]

This is a pretty good video about shulk's moveset here.

Dang! That range is absolutely incredible!

I can't wait to get the game so that I can think of some good combos. That down tilt will be a good starting move.

 

[The Curious Volnutt]

I wonder if stream edge will be a custom for back slash, it would deal more damage if an opponent is hit in the front.

 

[BluePikmin11]

カラスマ

The best Shulk by far.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Hm.... Apparently, smash stance takes 20% extra damage. Is the "reduced defense" constant? As in like, it stays at 20% and that's it?

I'll get his attention since this question might derail the weight list rankings thread a bit

@ KuroganeHammer hai

Edit: Monado buster vision counter seems to be a no-no. I checked one match with Shulk vs Sheik. Sheik was at a low percentage then the Shulk player used a perfectly timed counter then got punished due to buster's knockback debuff

it's consistant, the only % I've confirmed though is Shield's 33.05% reduced damage.

I should probably make a topic but I don't have any way to test jump lol

so you do a move that does 10% and you take 12% (for Smash)

 

[Creo]

Now I've yet to play the game (so what I say may not be gospel), much less Shulk, but some information I've taken notes from from early videos:

- F-Tilt dash-pivots look like they'll be fun / effective for spacing
- D-Tilt possibly is a potential combo starter and is another fast attack with good reach
- Up-Throw looks like the best throw as of right now (Up-Throw > Up-Tilt appears to link)
- F-Air hasn't too much lag and has good reach (spacing game)
- Up+B OoS for whiff / lag punishing
- U-Tilt combo potential, anti-air and platform poke (i.e. Battlefileds lower platforms)

Not taking into consideration the Monado arts (although I'm personally looking at Speed and Buster the most for added combo potential (Buster while opponent is at mid-high % could be promising)), these moves are the ones that seem to appeal to me the most. As we've all noted before, Shulk may take some time to understand and handle, but with a vast amount of options, the potential appears to be there, and rest assured I'll find my own way to express my play-style (along with everyone else) in the lab soon enough.

 

[MooseSmuggler]

This is a pretty good video about shulk's moveset here.

That guy has embarrassingly piss-poor knowledge of how Shulk works (not knowing Back Slash does more damage from behind, not knowing about Air Slash's second hit, using his up-air instead of his up-tilt). It's a miracle we learned anything out of that. At least we got to see most of his moveset, I suppose.

 

[Cereal Bawks]

Are all of the Xenoblade songs ripped from the original game, or are some remixed?

 

[FlareHabanero]

Are all of the Xenoblade songs ripped from the original game, or are some remixed?

They're just ported form Xenoblade Chronicles.

 

[Deleted member]

Are all of the Xenoblade songs ripped from the original game, or are some remixed?

They're the original songs.
I think that we might see some remixes in the Wii U version, if that remix of Gaur Plains in Shulk's trailer is of any indication.

 

[zippy3214]

it's consistant, the only % I've confirmed though is Shield's 33.05% reduced damage.

I should probably make a topic but I don't have any way to test jump lol

so you do a move that does 10% and you take 12% (for Smash)

You could test jump by having a CPU Shulk set to jump, and then test to see how much of a difference it makes. You won't get exact numbers, but a reasonable estimate.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

About an hour of footage from a japanese lifestream - almost every match here includes Shulk and by the movement and control of the players you can tell that they are some of the more advanced players with this character so far. I do not recognize the name tag of the Shulk player.
Here are a couple of things that stood out to me on first watching and should probably be noted:

* Fair has very short endling lag. When Shulk does a full hop fair you can use your midair jump before he touches the ground.
* Nair seems to have autocancel frames during almost its entire animation.
* Usmash kills and hits a tad behind Shulk. With its large hitbox above it, this could be a solid OoS punishing move.
* It seems pretty difficult to implement Backslash effectively. Look out for new options through custom moves here!
* Apparently it's possible to move onto and land on the stage while using nair / fair from the ledge.
* Monado Jump is not only a massive boost to Shulk's recovery but also a useful escape option against ledgetraps.
* Vision can definitely kill but will also whiff if you use it against certain attacks.
* Some of Shulk's throws seem to have kill potential. This needs to be investigated in combination with Monado Slash.
* Uair is the only aerial in Shulk's arsenal that doesn't seem to be very useful. Maybe in combination with Monado Jump.

 

[MooseSmuggler]

I know this doesn't pertain to Shulk (though to be fair this *is* now the Social thread and I *am* being social), but I had a quick question. Has anyone checked to see if it's possible to transfer coins and/or trophies between players? I'm thinking of hosting a tournament for Halloween, and I'm trying to think of a good prize (I won't be the only one hosting a tourney on Halloween and I don't want to get out done because I don't have a prize). I was hoping it would be possible to transfer at least coins to other players, because then I might have something decent to offer.

C'mon guys, help a Bronado out :3

 

[KuroganeHammer]

i dont think so

 

[Rikobomo]

About an hour of footage from a japanese lifestream - almost every match here includes Shulk and by the movement and control of the players you can tell that they are some of the more advanced players with this character so far. I do not recognize the name tag of the Shulk player.
Here are a couple of things that stood out to me on first watching and should probably be noted:

* Fair has very short endling lag. When Shulk does a full hop fair you can use your midair jump before he touches the ground.
* Nair seems to have autocancel frames during almost its entire animation.
* Usmash kills and hits a tad behind Shulk. With its large hitbox above it, this could be a solid OoS punishing move.
* It seems pretty difficult to implement Backslash effectively. Look out for new options through custom moves here!
* Apparently it's possible to move onto and land on the stage while using nair / fair from the ledge.
* Monado Jump is not only a massive boost to Shulk's recovery but also a useful escape option against ledgetraps.
* Vision can definitely kill but will also whiff if you use it against certain attacks.
* Some of Shulk's throws seem to have kill potential. This needs to be investigated in combination with Monado Slash.
* Uair is the only aerial in Shulk's arsenal that doesn't seem to be very useful. Maybe in combination with Monado Jump.

Well, that was disappointing. He pretty much lost every match. I really don't want the Smash fanbase to begin thinking he's low tier, but in nearly every video I've seen Shulk gets battered and his moves almost never connect. Plus his air game... doesn't look too good. :/

Thanks for sharing, nonetheless.

 

[MooseSmuggler]

Well, that was disappointing. He pretty much lost every match. I really don't want the Smash fanbase to begin thinking he's low tier, but in nearly every video I've seen Shulk gets battered and his moves almost never connect. Plus his air game... doesn't look too good. :/

Thanks for sharing, nonetheless.

There was a better match posted a page or two back. Also, it's only been a few days. People are still adjusting. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[SomethingIntheWay]

Joined here to tell you guys not to panic with Shulk - ZeRo just played him twice on his twitch stream and two-stocked both of his opponents (Wii Fit Trainer and Lucina).

His strategy was to use Monado Buster until his opponent got to about 60%, then switched to Smash for the rest of the stock. Air Slash was a great option of shield, and killed with the second hit at 80%.

Jab combos and Fair were incredibly useful with Buster, it seemed. ZeRo never used any other Arts, which is interesting.

 

[Sheddy]

so boys and girls what I miss while on vocation?

 

[SomethingIntheWay]

Dapuffster (spelling?) played two matches with Shulk about ten minutes ago, won both, though these were a lot closer. As said above, counter can whiff, and it's not pretty when it does...however, it's a fantastically unexpected kill move.

Also, Up-throw into a Monado Jumped Uair strings together nicely, and it may combo into Air Slash.

 

[AlvisCPU]

so boys and girls what I miss while on vocation?

Dumb people think Shulk's 3rd party. And a few gameplay videos.

 

[Gold_Jacobson]

Hello!

I finally beat Xenoblade Chronicles! Took 67 hours. I loved it so much.

I always wanted to join this thread but wasn't going to until I beat the game.

I think I'm a future Shulk main. I'm happy to be here.

 

[zippy3214]

Hello!

I finally beat Xenoblade Chronicles! Took 67 hours. I loved it so much.

I always wanted to join this thread but wasn't going to until I beat the game.

I think I'm a future Shulk main. I'm happy to be here.

67 hours, were you speedrunning the game? That's almost half the time of my first playthrough.

 

[AlvisCPU]

67 hours, were you speedrunning the game? That's almost half the time of my first playthrough.

I made about 80 hours, I think you could do it easily if you weren't going back and doing quests or Colony 6 stuff.

 

[SkittleE]

I made about 80 hours, I think you could do it easily if you weren't going back and doing quests or Colony 6 stuff.

I had about 80 hours as well, but that was mostly because I did a lot of grinding because I didn't realize how helpful questing was.

 

[Hokori]

Alright folks, I'll be making a new Shulk social thread soon. This one mainly consists of Shulk speculation/pre-release stuff, and it's time to begin anew now that the game is out and the people that frequent this sub-forum now will likely be among the people that you'll continue to see in the months/years to come here.

With that being said, we'll be having a new thread title and I'd like to hear some inputs and/or +1s to the ones suggested!

Here are some options so far (I can only take credit for the fourth one listed here):

- Colony 6: Constantly Growing! (Colony 6 is a Xenoblade reference...makes sense as we'll be working together to build up this sub-forum

- Colony 4: You Are Already Dead (The Colony 4 reference is a clever twist since this is Smash 4 )

- Colony 4: Bronados Really Feel It

- Colony 4/6: Bronado Guild Where We Fight 4 Feels

- Colony 4/6: Home of the Bronados

 

[Andyjoe522]

I was around 157 hours on my first playthrough, and I still had stuff to do. If you ask me, if you're not breaking 100 hours, you're just barely scratching what this game has to offer.

 

[SkittleE]

Alright folks, I'll be making a new Shulk social thread soon. This one mainly consists of Shulk speculation/pre-release stuff, and it's time to begin anew now that the game is out and the people that frequent this sub-forum now will likely be among the people that you'll continue to see in the months/years to come here.

With that being said, we'll be having a new thread title and I'd like to hear some inputs and/or +1s to the ones suggested!

Here are some options so far (I can only take credit for the fourth one listed here):

- Colony 6: Constantly Growing! (Colony 6 is a Xenoblade reference...makes sense as we'll be working together to build up this sub-forum

- Colony 4: You Are Already Dead (The Colony 4 reference is a clever twist since this is Smash 4 )

- Colony 4: Bronados Really Feel It

- Colony 4/6: Bronado Guild Where We Fight 4 Feels

- Colony 4/6: Home of the Bronados

I'll go ahead and vote for something with Colony 4 in it, since I am totally unbiased in every way. :b

 

[Jae]

I vote for the "Colony 6: Constantly Growing!", it sounds more appealing, double points for the building the subgroup thing. Not really feeling the "Bronado" based ones lol

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

I did like 80ish hours on the first playthrough. Did a large amount of side quests but skipped out on Colony 6 and missed a lot of skill trees. Second playthrough I clocked in at around 100, doing almost all of the sidequests and almost completely finishing Colony 6 and the collectopaedia.

And I vote for the Colony 6 title.

 

[Andyjoe522]

Alright folks, I'll be making a new Shulk social thread soon. This one mainly consists of Shulk speculation/pre-release stuff, and it's time to begin anew now that the game is out and the people that frequent this sub-forum now will likely be among the people that you'll continue to see in the months/years to come here.

With that being said, we'll be having a new thread title and I'd like to hear some inputs and/or +1s to the ones suggested!

Here are some options so far (I can only take credit for the fourth one listed here):

- Colony 6: Constantly Growing! (Colony 6 is a Xenoblade reference...makes sense as we'll be working together to build up this sub-forum

- Colony 4: You Are Already Dead (The Colony 4 reference is a clever twist since this is Smash 4 )

- Colony 4: Bronados Really Feel It

- Colony 4/6: Bronado Guild Where We Fight 4 Feels

- Colony 4/6: Home of the Bronados

I vote for anything using Colony 6. Although, with the social convo no longer being Colony 9, part of the significance is kind of lost.

 

[AlvisCPU]

Alright folks, I'll be making a new Shulk social thread soon. This one mainly consists of Shulk speculation/pre-release stuff, and it's time to begin anew now that the game is out and the people that frequent this sub-forum now will likely be among the people that you'll continue to see in the months/years to come here.

With that being said, we'll be having a new thread title and I'd like to hear some inputs and/or +1s to the ones suggested!

Here are some options so far (I can only take credit for the fourth one listed here):

- Colony 6: Constantly Growing! (Colony 6 is a Xenoblade reference...makes sense as we'll be working together to build up this sub-forum

- Colony 4: You Are Already Dead (The Colony 4 reference is a clever twist since this is Smash 4 )

- Colony 4: Bronados Really Feel It

- Colony 4/6: Bronado Guild Where We Fight 4 Feels

- Colony 4/6: Home of the Bronados

Yeah, Colony 6 I reckon.

 

[Berserker.]

Colony 6 title

 

[Hokori]

Out of the options included, I personally support, "Colony 6: Constantly Growing!" most.

EDIT - This is more than likely going to be a landslide "Colony 6: Constantly Growing!" it is.

 

[DuwangAnon]

One more page 'till 500, guys!
Let's keep this up!

 

[Bosspon]

Out of the options included, I personally support, "Colony 6: Constantly Growing!" most.

EDIT - This is more than likely going to be a landslide "Colony 6: Constantly Growing!" it is.

YOSH! That's the one I suggested! Bosspon strikes again! Muahahahahahaha!

 

[SpindaMaster]

I like all of the names, so I'll be fine with any of them.