Heir to the Monado. Shulk General Discussion/Social Thread

[Banjodorf]

I'm very sure that the retail demo roster is the initial roster. I mean, yes, we had Sonic playable in the E for All demo prior to Brawl while he was still an unlockable, but Luigi, Toon Link and all the third parties have had so much exposure it honestly doesn't make sense for them, especially Mega Man and Sonic, to be unlockable. And I don't think Namco's rep would be unlockable either.

Plus, that roster - Mii Fighters is what, 36? Given what we know in the leaked roster, even if it's not all the characters, it still leaves at least 12 unlockables. Brawl had 25 counting all the transformations/PT Pokemon, and ended up with 39. So honestly minimum 12 unlockables sounds about right.

I think it's pretty safe to assume none of the characters not in the demo roster are starters (So....Lucina, Wario, etc.) and that all of them there are.

 

[ThatLunaticFeline]

I'm very sure that the retail demo roster is the initial roster. I mean, yes, we had Sonic playable in the E for All demo prior to Brawl while he was still an unlockable, but Luigi, Toon Link and all the third parties have had so much exposure it honestly doesn't make sense for them, especially Mega Man and Sonic, to be unlockable. And I don't think Namco's rep would be unlockable either.

Plus, that roster - Mii Fighters is what, 36? Given what we know in the leaked roster, even if it's not all the characters, it still leaves at least 12 unlockables. Brawl had 25 counting all the transformations/PT Pokemon, and ended up with 39. So honestly minimum 12 unlockables sounds about right.

I think it's pretty safe to assume none of the characters not in the demo roster are starters (So....Lucina, Wario, etc.) and that all of them there are.

Agreed, but there is one thing that I think that this being the starting roster points out...

All the Pokémon characters are in the initial lineup except Jigglypuff. I don't think they would have just 1 unlockable Pokémon - both Melee and Brawl had two, in Pichu and Jigglypuff and Lucario and Jigglypuff respectively.

Mewtwo dubiously confirmed...?

 

[Deleted member]

Hey guys in the sound test menu what if by entering the contra code on Shulk's area, you got new sound options that are all from Reyn. Examples: "Now its Reyn Time!" "Give it some OOMPH!" "Alleyoop!" and "Man, what a bunch of jokas."

 

[Banjodorf]

Agreed, but there is one thing that I think that this being the starting roster points out...

All the Pokémon characters are in the initial lineup except Jigglypuff. I don't think they would have just 1 unlockable Pokémon - both Melee and Brawl had two, in Pichu and Jigglypuff and Lucario and Jigglypuff respectively.

Mewtwo dubiously confirmed...?

It could go one way or another, but that's pretty much what I've been thinking, too. Especially since, because we know All-Star had the lock icon in the leak build, and Sakurai confirmed that means all the characters aren't unlocked, we know there's more.

We'll see, though.

It's nice to have Shulk on the starting roster, though. I wonder how much play time I'll actually get with other characters now, though, hahaha!

 

[ZephyrYoshi]

I'm curious, what exactly did Mewtwo do better than Lucario? Also, do you guys think there'll be two different Mewtwo's, one for Y and one for X?

Sorry that this doesn't really have to do with Shulk, but it's Smash related, so I bet we can tie it in somehow.

 

[ThatLunaticFeline]

I'm curious, what exactly did Mewtwo do better than Lucario? Also, do you guys think there'll be two different Mewtwo's, one for Y and one for X?

Sorry that this doesn't really have to do with Shulk, but it's Smash related, so I bet we can tie it in somehow.

I'm personally not a Mewtwo fan, but Mewtwo's forward aerial and up-b was much better than Lucario's.

Still, I'm interested to see how Shulk will fare against other enemies with counters like Lucario.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm curious, what exactly did Mewtwo do better than Lucario? Also, do you guys think there'll be two different Mewtwo's, one for Y and one for X?

Sorry that this doesn't really have to do with Shulk, but it's Smash related, so I bet we can tie it in somehow.

Mewtwo was from Gen 1. And Lucario is better than Mewtwo in Smash so far if you look at the tiers, even though they're different games. But really, Mewtwo is from Gen 1. That makes it "better". But is better than both

 

[FalcoPaunch!121]

I'm personally not a Mewtwo fan, but Mewtwo's forward aerial and up-b was much better than Lucario's.

Still, I'm interested to see how Shulk will fare against other enemies with counters like Lucario.

He will counter their counters!

 

[ZephyrYoshi]

He will counter their counters!

Dair, fast-fall, then Vision just before Lucario starts his Double Team counterattack.

Totally foolproof, you guys.

 

[monadoboy]

I can't believe we are so close to actually playing as Shulk in Smash Bros. It's like a dream I can't wake up from. Hopefully, the demo is the starting roster, because I want to hear the announcer's "SHULK" out loud on my 3DS as soon as possible.

 

[zippy3214]

Mewtwo was from Gen 1. And Lucario is better than Mewtwo in Smash so far if you look at the tiers, even though they're different games. But really, Mewtwo is from Gen 1. That makes it "better". But is better than both

Another reason that people prefer Mewtwo is because fans saw him as a cooler Pokemon so when he, a legendary Pokemon, got replaced with Lucario, people got mad at that. I like both equally, but I think Lucario just has better potential in Smash Bros.

 

[Youngster Joey]

does anyone have any gameplay info about shulk? im hearing about all these other characters like link, zard, greninja, sonic, pacman, robin. even freaking olimar -.- wheres the shulk rep? D: i wanna know whats going on

 

[Banjodorf]

does anyone have any gameplay info about shulk? im hearing about all these other characters like link, zard, greninja, sonic, pacman, robin. even freaking olimar -.- wheres the shulk rep? D: i wanna know whats going on

There were some posts on him I saw last night on Reddit. To summarize some things:

> Monado has crazy reach
> Modes have cooldown after switching.
> New god(slayer) of spacing.
> He seems overall really solid.

Can't seem to find answers what the tilts/etc. we didn't see are. Can't find confirmation on his other 4 outfits, but I did hear they're all recolors, with Oil Shulk being the only actual "alt".

 

[Brother AJ]

Did anyone find out more about how Shulk's Monado Arts work? Are they generated randomly or can you pick which Art you want at any time? Or perhaps you can only get through them in a fixed order like Olimar's pikmin?

 

[zippy3214]

Did anyone find out more about how Shulk's Monado Arts work? Are they generated randomly or can you pick which Art you want at any time? Or perhaps you can only get through them in a fixed order like Olimar's pikmin?

From what someone speculated, it's a set order.

 

[skstylez]

There were some posts on him I saw last night on Reddit. To summarize some things:

> Monado has crazy reach
> Modes have cooldown after switching.
> New god(slayer) of spacing.
> He seems overall really solid.

Can't seem to find answers what the tilts/etc. we didn't see are. Can't find confirmation on his other 4 outfits, but I did hear they're all recolors, with Oil Shulk being the only actual "alt".

From what I've read, the only one who can challenge his spacing is fittingly a Goddess, Palutena.

 

[Berserker.]

From the 3DS Japanese build thread:

Twitter man Ben Weinhoffer claims that the top characters from "worst" to "best"
Yoshi, Palutena, Shulk, Robin

Still too early to conclude how powerful he is but basically if you're afraid that Shulk won't be viable or won't be that good, don't be afraid.

Edit: Take note that this is just an opinion. Just a slight assurance that he won't be a crappy character

Edit2: Not sure if the guy even played the demo.... Don't take his word seriously for now

 

[Gamecube]

YES YES YES!!! I finally got Xenoblade Chronicles!!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!!!!!

 

[The Curious Volnutt]

YES YES YES!!! I finally got Xenoblade Chronicles!!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!!!!!

I wonder how a Gamecube is gonna process Xenoblade

 

[Gamecube]

I wonder how a Gamecube is gonna process Xenoblade

I'll find a way!

 

[erico9001]

EDIT: Shulk Jungle Outfit deconfirmed

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

In the zipzo stream, Shulk's jungle outfit was just confirmed as an alt!

He hasn't played Xenoblade and is recalling this all from memory, but he said that there is one alt that is kind of shirtless with pants. This, along with the guy from reddit saying there is a sleeveless alt confirms it!

Spoiler

SWEET JESUS YES!!!

...Ahem. That pleases me greatly.

 

[SkittleE]

SWEET JESUS YES!!!

...Ahem. That pleases me greatly.

Sweet *MEYNETH yes, you uncultured swine.

 

[The Curious Volnutt]

In the zipzo stream, Shulk's jungle outfit was just confirmed as an alt!

He hasn't played Xenoblade and is recalling this all from memory, but he said that there is one alt that is kind of shirtless with pants. This, along with the guy from reddit saying there is a sleeveless alt confirms it!

Spoiler

Oh yeah! Let's unleash the Banado!

Spoiler: This is the Banado's power!

 

[zippy3214]

So we have swimsuit Shulk, Jungle Shulk, what next?

Stellar Shulk would be a nice alt.

 

[SkittleE]

So we have swimsuit Shulk, Jungle Shulk, what next?

Stellar Shulk would be a nice alt.

I'm hoping for a Stellar Armour alt and a white/gold recolor. Not holding my breath for either, though.

 

[Skyfox2000]

"I'm really feeling it"

 

[mattmonkey24]

I'm hoping for a Stellar Armour alt and a white/gold recolor. Not holding my breath for either, though.

other than the Oil/Swimsuit alt, Zipzo said there is only recolors

 

[erico9001]

Aww nm, I directly showed him a link to the jungle outfit and he said no, Shulk does not have an outfit like that.

 

[The Curious Volnutt]

Aww nm, I directly showed him a link to the jungle outfit and he said no, Shulk does not have an outfit like that.

...*sniff*

 

[Fex13]

im really hoping he can pull off some great combos and is somewhat fast...

btw, does shulk has to use any monado arts or is there some kind of ,standard' mode for his moves? anything known already?

 

[Kikkipoptart12]

Aww nm, I directly showed him a link to the jungle outfit and he said no, Shulk does not have an outfit like that.

Well that sucks... I guest we get a bunch of Shulk recolors.

 

[Morbi]

Well that sucks... I guest we get a bunch of Shulk recolors.

The Jungle armor was my favorite, but at the very least, the gender-equality Shulk is different.

 

[Banjodorf]

I expect DLC outfits anyway, so I'm not too concerned.

 

[Culex127]

I am looking forward to play this character!
Xenoblade Chronicles all the way!

 

[Blue Fang]

Who here is still in a slight state of disbelief that Shulk actually made it in?
Shulk's been my number one most wanted character for SM4SH since I first played Xenoblade, and seeing him in the leaks and his reveal trailer has been so surreal to me.

But I think I've finally accepted reality after watching this video, seeing Shulk with the rest of the Smash cast....and reality is good.

 

[erico9001]

Who here is still in a slight state of dis.belief that Shulk actually made it in?
Shulk's been my number one most wanted character for SM4SH since I first played Xenoblade, and seeing him in the leaks and his reveal trailer has been so surreal to me.

But I think I've finally accepted reality after watching this video, seeing Shulk with the rest of the Smash cast....and reality is good.

Haha, I love the ending to that. I watched it 7 times... too epic.

I probably came to reality on the subject when I happend upon Shulk's page on the smash wiki

 

[Weeginji]

There is a point at which this should have stopped and we have clearly passed it...

 

[Andyjoe522]

There is a point at which this should have stopped and we have clearly passed it...

... But lets keep going, and see what happens.

 

[Deleted member]

There is a point at which this should have stopped and we have clearly passed it...

This had to happen at some point. I loved Shulk's reactions for when Robin showed up!
We should have the Xenoblade cast commentate over every Smash trailer.