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Heir to the Monado. Shulk General Discussion/Social Thread

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I just realized, the Wii U version stage will be the first time we see Xenoblade in HD
We'll see the stage high-definition in resolution, but it might not actually be HD in a sense that it'll be high in geometry and texture quality. Some stages like Skyloft, Pilot Wings, and Town & City aren't graphically altered and still retain Wii graphics, so I'm expecting the Wii U version of the stage to look the same as it is in Xenoblade but literally in HD.

Fortunately, most of Xenoblade's areas have beautiful lighting, so we won't have that much of a problem. c;
 

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it's awesome to have shulk actually revealed hopefully sakurai is not to mad though I feel bad for the brah :(
 

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I'm a bit broken up about this whole leak thing.

I'm happy that Shulk is in, but...

He's being called a Marth clone...

Sakurai's surprise was ruined...

People outside this thread are super salty and down because they feel like their dreams have been crushed...

And... just...

I want this leak to be fake. I want things to go back to how they used to be.
 

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I must admit that it still amazes me that this is a Wii game, imagine if all the Wii games had that kind of effort on them.
The only bad thing I can say about Xenoblade is that it hasn't gotten a Wii U release in HD, I'd buy it again to support the devs :D

Also about Shulk being a Marth Clone: I hope this isn't true, we honestly have enough of those and it wouldn't make any sense, plus what if Shulk's ability to see into the future isn't used in any way? Sakurai's played Xenoblade, surely he wouldn't do this to us
 
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I'm a bit broken up about this whole leak thing.

I'm happy that Shulk is in, but...

He's being called a Marth clone...

Sakurai's surprise was ruined...

People outside this thread are super salty and down because they feel like their dreams have been crushed...

And... just...

I want this leak to be fake. I want things to go back to how they used to be.
I never wished for all this to get out, so I can understand how people feel. It was hurting to watch from the sidelines during this madness the past week in hoping nothing else would happen.
 

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I just wanted to know he was in, if he has a trailer I will still be excited over watching that.
Exactly. Seeing him in HD, specifically showing off what makes him unique and on his home stage will be as exciting to me as it ever would have been without this leak.

Also, I don't think he's that clone-ish. At least, not specific to Marth. He seems to be more of a sword fighter with moves "based" on the current sword wielding cast with a gimmick in place to set him apart. Plus who knows how awesome his custom moves will be?
 
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I'm a bit broken up about this whole leak thing.

I'm happy that Shulk is in, but...

He's being called a Marth clone...

Sakurai's surprise was ruined...

People outside this thread are super salty and down because they feel like their dreams have been crushed...

And... just...

I want this leak to be fake. I want things to go back to how they used to be.
Well... it doesn't matter that he's being called a Marth clone because he's not. Their dreams would be crushed anyway when the game comes out.
 

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Well... it doesn't matter that he's being called a Marth clone because he's not. Their dreams would be crushed anyway when the game comes out.
I know he's not and I just feel that having everything suddenly revealed through a leak is the worst possible way to tell people their character isn't going to be in. I'd rather the slots get smaller and smaller over time as people gradually come to accept the roster and let go of some characters they know won't happen.
 

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It's not that bad. Having a few characters leaked is hardly a big deal. Smash 4 has been hyped for over 2 years. Now it's only 3 weeks before release when true leaks are surfacing
 
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So happy that Shulk's in. His neutral special seems really cool (want to see what each Monado symbol does exactly). A little disappointed that his down special seems to be another counter, but I'll live with it. Can't wait to use him! :D
 

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I'm a bit broken up about this whole leak thing.

I'm happy that Shulk is in, but...

He's being called a Marth clone...

Sakurai's surprise was ruined...

People outside this thread are super salty and down because they feel like their dreams have been crushed...

And... just...

I want this leak to be fake. I want things to go back to how they used to be.
I feel you bro, but I can seriously take condolence in the fact that Shulk is in as a playable character. Seeing that Xenoblade rep is all that matters in the world to me. It's no surprise that not all our expectations were met, but we should be thankful he's in there at all.
 
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I get this feeling Shulk'll be officially announced tonight... just a hunch. Sakurai probably knows of the leak, but we have yet to see the reaction.
With any luck we'll get it soon.

Are you the same Taodragon from Serebii o.-
 

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If only it had occurred under better circumstances. Sowwy Sakurai...
Sakurai would have known the game would be leaked.
It is common knowledge that it happens with games of this magnitude.

I wouldn't be surprised if he planned it in his marketing strategy.
Even if not a leak, the cartridge would have been hacked immediately.
The lackluster month and nonchalant attitude before Japan launch seems to me to indicate that he never planed on having the full roster on the actual cartridge, to save the surprises.
 

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Sakurai would have known the game would be leaked.
It is common knowledge that it happens with games of this magnitude.

I wouldn't be surprised if he planned it in his marketing strategy.
Even if not a leak, the cartridge would have been hacked immediately.
The lackluster month and nonchalant attitude before Japan launch seems to me to indicate that he never planed on having the full roster on the actual cartridge, to save the surprises.
Interesting point.....maybe this is all intentional and is just setting up for Shulk reveal trailer which involves him seeing the leak as the future or something....I dunno...
 

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It'd sure be nice to get a trailer announcement. Although honestly after today I'm not sure how many bones Sakurai will throw us.

So...about the Marth clone thing. Are people ****ing stupid? None of his normal attacks are shared with Marth, any of his movement, anything like that. Also, his neutral B changes his goddamn stats. Is that Shield Breaker? No, it ****ing isn't.

Oh look, he has a Counter (That doesn't share the same animation, and is either Shadow Eye or a vision, by the way.) Guess which other, "super unique" newcomers do? Little Mac, Greninja, Palutena, and obviously Lucina. (The actual Marth clone.) Palutena didn't even NEED to have one, and yet she has one as a default.

Oh, and Shulk's up-b is similar to Marth's? Whoopdee****ing do. I never had an easy time thinking of a good way for Shulk to up-b, and making Air Slash similar to Marth's is fine. It doesn't make him a ****ing clone. "Oh, Palutena has Warp. Zelda clone." "Oh, Greninja's Aqua Jet is basically a faster Quick Attack. Clone." "Little Mac has a spinning Up-B with no distance? Wario clone." Are we ****ing done here? Shulk's moveset isn't what everyone wanted, but it's clearly very original in most places, and he's as original as pretty much every newcomer we have. (Well, not Rosie.) Stop throwing around the word clone like it's that goddamn easy.

I'm looking forward to maining him. He looks stronk as ****.

Oh, I should also add: "Mega Man and Pac-Man both have SPRING Up-B's? Are you ****ing kidding me Sakurai? Why make two Third parties Sanic clones?!"

Oh, and one more thing. I'm sorry, but one more. I keep hearing people say "Oh, he's got PM Roy's down-smash. Clone." You ****ing people are amazing. So...Shulk's got a move that doesn't actually exist in a canon Smash game? Good. So it's an original Shulk move in actual Smash then?
 
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Interesting point.....maybe this is all intentional and is just setting up for Shulk reveal trailer which involves him seeing the leak as the future or something....I dunno...
I don't think he would point it out- I'm just saying, it would be pretty strange to think a leak would NOT happen. It did for Brawl, even.
 

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Whelp Pic of the Day confirms the spectator mode the dude leaked. Either this is a subtle hint that the leak is correct, or he's just pretending the leak never happened and will move on like normal.

God....it's so weird, today changed so much, I feel like it's all just a dream. Shulk is IN Smash Bros.
 

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Whelp Pic of the Day confirms the spectator mode the dude leaked. Either this is a subtle hint that the leak is correct, or he's just pretending the leak never happened and will move on like normal.

God....it's so weird, today changed so much, I feel like it's all just a dream. Shulk is IN Smash Bros.
It also confirmed betting in spectator mode.

Which was passed as a bill, with real money, earlier in... I believe 2013.

I wonder if this is a sign of Nintendo taking stronger movements towards MONEY and Hardcore gamers?

Well, still stands to reason DLC for me.
 

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Whelp Pic of the Day confirms the spectator mode the dude leaked. Either this is a subtle hint that the leak is correct, or he's just pretending the leak never happened and will move on like normal.

God....it's so weird, today changed so much, I feel like it's all just a dream. Shulk is IN Smash Bros.
At this point I'm just hoping Mewtwo, Dixie and the Chorus Kids join him. Also, I'm unreasonable hyped by the possibility Dark Pit may not actually be a full clone. (He has the Dark Pit staff.)

...Anyway, I shouldn't pull the conversation away from Shulk, just wanted to say that...
 

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At this point I'm just hoping Mewtwo, Dixie and the Chorus Kids join him. Also, I'm unreasonable hyped by the possibility Dark Pit may not actually be a full clone. (He has the Dark Pit staff.)

...Anyway, I shouldn't pull the conversation away from Shulk, just wanted to say that...
Psssssst......I'm on the same boat as you with the Dark Pit thing, he could be like a reverse clone, where he actually looks like a clone, but has a different moveset altogether.

Did anyone notice that in the gameplay video with shulk in it, the very first thing he does is this really cool up-smash where he drives the HILT of the Monado into the ground, and then activates in, causing the blade to like shoot up. It looks really cool, i can't wait to play him
 
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Psssssst......I'm on the same boat as you with the Dark Pit thing, he could be like a reverse clone, where he actually looks like a clone, but has a different moveset altogether.

Did anyone notice that in the gameplay video with shulk in it, the very first thing he does is this really cool up-smash where he drives the HILT of the Monado into the ground, and then activates in, causing the blade to like shoot up. It looks really cool, i can't wait to play him
See, this is what I'm talking about. I knew you were awesome. :shades:

I actually just watched the footage again, and finally listened to the audio. Man, Shulk's moveset looks so interesting to me. All the movements look so fluid, and seem to have a ton of range. And I'm infinitely interested in how the art-changing actually helps him. (I know, stat changes, but I can't really tell from video.) And dat Adam Howden voice.

And. best of all, the victory theme is better than I could've possibly imagined. And I did imagine.

As for DPit, as long as he has the staff (confirmed to be in his render, looking back at those screenshots.), he;s at least got to have different normals/neutral special, because, y'know, it's not a bow/two swords. Such hype.
 

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See, this is what I'm talking about. I knew you were awesome. :shades:

I actually just watched the footage again, and finally listened to the audio. Man, Shulk's moveset looks so interesting to me. All the movements look so fluid, and seem to have a ton of range. And I'm infinitely interested in how the art-changing actually helps him. (I know, stat changes, but I can't really tell from video.) And dat Adam Howden voice.

And. best of all, the victory theme is better than I could've possibly imagined. And I did imagine.

As for DPit, as long as he has the staff (confirmed to be in his render, looking back at those screenshots.), he;s at least got to have different normals/neutral special, because, y'know, it's not a bow/two swords. Such hype.
That's how I feel about Shulk's moveset. It might not be like how most of us wanted, but it looks so fluid and great range.
Also, there are still things to look forward to, like his reveal trailer and Wii U stage.
 

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That Down Smash completely ravishes anyone in a 10 mile radius.

I'm a little cautious about the Monado Arts though; they're certainly cool but I wonder if it'd be kind of a pain to activate one every 5 seconds during a 5+ minute match to use Shulk to his full potential
 
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That Down Smash completely ravishes anyone in a 10 mile radius.

I'm a little cautious about the Monado Arts though; they're certainly cool but I wonder if it'd be kind of a pain to activate one every 5 seconds during a 5+ minute match to use Shulk to his full potential
It seems like he can activate them while moving, or even jumping, without hindering any current action, so I'm assuming not? This is definitely one of those things we'll have to see in action though.
 

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So this leak confirms the Ninka leak yeah?

So that means that each character gets 8 costumes. I could see like 4 of Shulk's costumes being the swaps and then the other four being some of the armours.

Now I see why ppl are saying Monado Modes are the B attack; it's what Ninka leak says. How can Monado Buster be a mode though? Is it the one that makes him more powerful? Geeze, I would have thought that would be Monado Enchant.

What's the fourth one I look at though if not Monado Enchant? It's one of the more clear pics but I just can't figure it out. It's green, so you might think purge, but the right side of it doesn't look like purge's symbol.

edit: Actually, taking another look at it, that has to be Monado Enchant. In that case, perhaps Monado Buster isn't a mode but an attack.
I know Japanese and the 2nd to last one cannot be any of the ones you've shown. It has two characters to form one "whole" character; both of their tops are flat. Which doesn't match any of the kanjis you listed. Must be something else.

The last one just doesn't look like anything LOL no idea what kanji it can be.

About all the different Kanjis.

I'm kinda expecting them to be a Mega Man kinda deal, lots of different iconic skills, but they're just standard moves rather than part of a huge special pool.

Some guy apparently talked about his moves before the video was a thing, and he was 100% correct. (don't think I'd be able to find a source for that, sorry, this forum's moving way too fast right now) He said he could switch between two modes, one focused on dealing and receiving more damage, and the other's just the opposite.
I think what's going on is those 2 modes are just the armor mode and the enchant mode or some buff mode. Armor = more defense, less damage, attack buff = less defense, more armor. And the other 3 "modes" are either buffs or moves (Monado Buster).

I think it's actually interesting that it doesn't seem you can just 'skip" to the Arts you want to use instantly, you have to flip through them (or use them in a sort of cycle, or something like that). A lot like the game where you have to switch to things quickly and account for how much time it will take to flip to a certain Arts when trying to decide what to use in battle :D
 

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Man, what a day, what a week. I know a lot of people don't like this leak, but for me this roster is near perfection. Literally every newcomer i'm excited for. And of course my boy Shulk! Some are worried about his moveset, but like I said before, it's a 10 second video of Shulk being controlled by a cpu, there's more to Shulk. Sakurai was able to perfectly represent Fire Emblem with Robin and make movesets for characters like Wii Fit Trainer, Pac Man and Villager. Sakurai will do Shulk justice, all we have to do is be calm and wait for the trailer and more info. Man, I can't wait to see trophies of all the other party members.
 
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Man, what a day, what a week. I know a lot of people don't like this leak, but for me this roster is near perfection. Literally every newcomer i'm excited for. And of course my boy Shulk! Some are worried about his moveset, but like I said before, it's a 10 second video of Shulk being controlled by a cpu, there's more to Shulk. Sakurai was able to perfectly represent Fire Emblem with Robin and make movesets for characters like Wii Fit Trainer, Pac Man and Villager. Sakurai will do Shulk justice, all we have to do is be calm and wait for the trailer and more info. Man, I can't wait to see trophies of all the other party members.
Why do you have such great taste. Akashi and Shiki?! Perfect.

Edit: And Gurren Lagann.
 
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Man, what a day, what a week. I know a lot of people don't like this leak, but for me this roster is near perfection. Literally every newcomer i'm excited for. And of course my boy Shulk! Some are worried about his moveset, but like I said before, it's a 10 second video of Shulk being controlled by a cpu, there's more to Shulk. Sakurai was able to perfectly represent Fire Emblem with Robin and make movesets for characters like Wii Fit Trainer, Pac Man and Villager. Sakurai will do Shulk justice, all we have to do is be calm and wait for the trailer and more info. Man, I can't wait to see trophies of all the other party members.
you'er right I wish P1 would play as Shulk and not the cpu it made shulk look stupid.
 

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We don't know Shulk's side special yet, right? What if some of the modes changes his side special, like it can be Monado buster or purge etc.
 

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See, this is what I'm talking about. I knew you were awesome. :shades:

I actually just watched the footage again, and finally listened to the audio. Man, Shulk's moveset looks so interesting to me. All the movements look so fluid, and seem to have a ton of range. And I'm infinitely interested in how the art-changing actually helps him. (I know, stat changes, but I can't really tell from video.) And dat Adam Howden voice.

And. best of all, the victory theme is better than I could've possibly imagined. And I did imagine.

As for DPit, as long as he has the staff (confirmed to be in his render, looking back at those screenshots.), he;s at least got to have different normals/neutral special, because, y'know, it's not a bow/two swords. Such hype.
Did we hear Adam Howden? The only thing i've heard Shulk say clearly is "Air Slash" and it didn't sound very....Howdeny.....maybe I'm just crazy...

We don't know Shulk's side special yet, right? What if some of the modes changes his side special, like it can be Monado buster or purge etc.
OOOOOOH NOW YOUR'E ONTO SOMETHING
 
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