Heir to the Monado. Shulk General Discussion/Social Thread

[Neo Zero]

Inb4 Sakurai copy pasting DK's FS to Shulk. Don't ask me how it will look or how that even is possible, it just happened.

Hey if he plays it like an electric guitar, it's cool in my book

 

[Andyjoe522]

Guys. Maybe you should stop putting major plot points in spoilers all the time. No, seriously. When you open the page, you can see what's inside them.

Spoiler

I didn't need to know that they would turn Fiora into a Mechon! That's TERRIBLE!

In our defense, that's more an issue with Smash Boards than anything.
Also, rest assured that that's only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the plot twists present in this game, and is actually rather easy to guess depending on how much you enjoy talking to NPCs.

 

[Solfiner]

In our defense, that's more an issue with Smash Boards than anything.
Also, rest assured that that's only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the plot twists present in this game, and is actually rather easy to guess depending on how much you enjoy talking to NPCs.

Yeah, that is a major Smashboards problem. We can try to cut back on spoilers as much as possible from now on.

 

[xLemmy_KoopaX]

In our defense, that's more an issue with Smash Boards than anything.
Also, rest assured that that's only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the plot twists present in this game, and is actually rather easy to guess depending on how much you enjoy talking to NPCs.

Spoiler: Final Fantasy 7 spoilers? Kinda?

Fiora being a Mechon is basically the "Aerith dies" spoiler from Xenoblade.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Guys. Maybe you should stop putting major plot points in spoilers all the time. No, seriously. When you open the page, you can see what's inside them.

Spoiler

I didn't need to know that they would turn Fiora into a Mechon! That's TERRIBLE!

We'll try to cool it, but it was relevant to the current other Xeno rep discussions. Also, like others have said, there are many other and bigger plot twists, so the game isn't ruined for you!

Are you currently playing the game, by the way?

 

[Andyjoe522]

Spoiler: Final Fantasy 7 spoilers? Kinda?

Fiora being a Mechon is basically the "Aerith dies" spoiler from Xenoblade.

I'm not even sure if that can even be called a spoiler anymore. It's pretty much the worse kept "secret" in all of video games.

 

[Solfiner]

I'm not even sure if that can even be called a spoiler anymore. It's pretty much the worse kept "secret" in all of video games.

Zelda is Sheik. You can thank Sakurai for that one.

 

[Andyjoe522]

Zelda is Sheik. You can thank Sakurai for that one.

True. And pretty soon it's probably going to be

Spoiler

Fiora is turned into a Mechon

Also... Only two pages behind the K. Rool thread.

 

[Solfiner]

True. And pretty soon it's probably going to be

Spoiler

Fiora is turned into a Mechon

Also... Only two pages behind the K. Rool thread.

 

[GM_3826]

We'll try to cool it, but it was relevant to the current other Xeno rep discussions. Also, like others have said, there are many other and bigger plot twists, so the game isn't ruined for you!

Are you currently playing the game, by the way?

Well, no.
...Maybe I should stay out of this thread, at least until the game comes out... Eventually, everything will be "Late-Arrival" spoiled, anyhow...

 

[Spazzy_D]

• Enchant - I don't know, maybe a Neutral B stat buff if anything.
  
• Buster - Seems like a decent Side B or Neutral B. Just a simple attack, something like Marth's Neutral B from Melee but with more start up and range. Could actually see it as a side smash as well.
  
• Shield - Probably best used as Shulk's shield, could possibly also be his Down B. Most likely used to absorb one attack or special.
  
• Speed - Possible Up or Side B as a modified Fox illusion. Could also work as a sort of Down B counter.
  
• Purge - Up, Side, or Neutral B. If it is an Up special it would probably be best if aimed. Side special could also be used as a horizontal recovery. Move could either interrupt and lock specials or do tons of shield damage.
  
• Eater - Side or Neutral B, it would add a poison style damage over time debuff to targets.
  
• Armour - Down B, damage reduction ability.
  
• Cyclone - Interesting ability. Could very well be a down, neutral, or up special. The down special would probably focus more on the defensive properties of the move, as it could deflect incoming items and projectiles. The Up special would use the ether explosion to launch Shulk into the air. The Neutral special would likely be a charge move that would damage and perhaps even trip opponents.

Cyclone and Buster might even be made into a Final Smash, but I personally feel both are too weak to get the job done.

I'm proud of us as a thread. We really cleaned up our content in the past week as well.

I am not proud of the fact that I went out of my way to assign each of Shulk's Monado Arts to moves yesterday and got no feed back. Now is your chance to make it up to me.

 

[foolssigma]

Well, no.
...Maybe I should stay out of this thread, at least until the game comes out... Eventually, everything will be "Late-Arrival" spoiled, anyhow...

Don't worry about it too much. Sakurai will be spoiling the game left and right once Shulk is revealed

 

[Spazzy_D]

Well, no.
...Maybe I should stay out of this thread, at least until the game comes out... Eventually, everything will be "Late-Arrival" spoiled, anyhow...

Have you watched any of the Let's Plays or game footage? Just curious.

 

[Solfiner]

I'm proud of us as a thread. We really cleaned up our content in the past week as well.

I am not proud of the fact that I went out of my way to assign each of Shulk's Monado Arts to moves yesterday and got no feed back. Now is your chance to make it up to me.

The social group really, really helped. There is only so much you can talk about before going off-topic, so that group is the perfect place to let off some steam so to say.

 

[SnapDrake_Games]

I'm proud of us as a thread. We really cleaned up our content in the past week as well.

I am not proud of the fact that I went out of my way to assign each of Shulk's Monado Arts to moves yesterday and got no feed back. Now is your chance to make it up to me.

Jeez, pushy.

As for all the moves, they seem fine to me. Completely fine. Buster as a side smash seems a little weird to me, but otherwise it's fine.

Something tells me that when Shulk is revealed, everyone will be analyzing his moveset like megaman to find which arts he's using. Ooh! There's light heal! Shaker edge! Air slash!

 

[Neo Zero]

Jeez, pushy.

As for all the moves, they seem fine to me. Completely fine. Buster as a side smash seems a little weird to me, but otherwise it's fine.

Something tells me that when Shulk is revealed, everyone will be analyzing his moveset like megaman to find which arts he's using. Ooh! There's light heal! Shaker edge! Air slash!

I know I will

 

[Solfiner]

Can't wait for the sub-forums. Analyzing every single detail over and over again. It's gonna be great.

 

[foolssigma]

I'm proud of us as a thread. We really cleaned up our content in the past week as well.

I am not proud of the fact that I went out of my way to assign each of Shulk's Monado Arts to moves yesterday and got no feed back. Now is your chance to make it up to me.

This is pretty much just a repeat of my move set but I'd go with:

I think Buster should be the neutral B. Can be charged to increase range/strength. Also Monado Buster Kirby would be amazing with a mini Monado and Shulk hair.

Forward B - Monado Cyclone (can be charged. Charge determines how far the attack will land from Shulk. Only location is altered, not size. Looks similar to the Xenoblade version. If opponent is inflicted with break then this move will cause them to trip or topple.

Down B - Monado Eater (Pulls characters toward Shulk. Only works in forward direction. Also inflicts bleed which works similar to the lip flowers.)

Up B - Monado Purge
(Jumps and Swings word which emits a green wave. Chance of inflicting aura seal which can negate specials? ...Sounds cool but too broken. Maybe instead it can inflict break even though that isn't true to the game.)

My personal pick for the final smash is still the vision.

Final Smash - Vision - Shulk says I see it - then the screen fades in that white color and comes back with the blue hint from Xenoblade during the vision sequences. The other characters appear on screen and can move freely for a few seconds. Afterwards, the vision ends and Shulk says this is the true power of the Monado. Shulk has Monado Speed and Armor which make him quicker and invincible. Also, Enchant which somehow makes him more powerful against everyone. The characters reenact their movements while Shulk is free to attack. In addition, the vision meter can appear on the top of the screen and then shatter after Shulk KOs someone for a nice touch.

I doubt this is how he'll end up though. Cyclone and Eater will probably be used differently

 

[Spazzy_D]

Jeez, pushy.

As for all the moves, they seem fine to me. Completely fine. Buster as a side smash seems a little weird to me, but otherwise it's fine.

Something tells me that when Shulk is revealed, everyone will be analyzing his moveset like megaman to find which arts he's using. Ooh! There's light heal! Shaker edge! Air slash!

I am being pushy, but A.) That breakdown took 5 minutes away from my life that I'm not getting back and B.) I'm really just trying to promote move set discussion to keep things going in here.

 

[Neo Zero]

I am being pushy, but A.) That breakdown took 5 minutes away from my life that I'm not getting back and B.) I'm really just trying to promote move set discussion to keep things going in here.

If only you had a vision to warn you D:

 

[Solfiner]

Sakurai wont just port Xenoblade models to make trophies of them right? They will have to be made from scratch, or am I wrong?

 

[SnapDrake_Games]

Sakurai wont just port Xenoblade models to make trophies of them right? They will have to be made from scratch, or am I wrong?

I hope they don't port Xenoblade models. One of the really cool things that would come of an HD Xenoblade re-release would be HD models. HD Mechon! HD Melia! HD Monado!

 

[Andyjoe522]

Sakurai wont just port Xenoblade models to make trophies of them right? They will have to be made from scratch, or am I wrong?

They would pretty much have to be made from scratch. Having those models in Smash Bros would just be kind of cringe worthy. If you know what I mean.

 

[Solfiner]

That's what I've been thinking. If they are made from scratch, I can't wait to see Diqson, Metal face, the whole cast etc in HD.

 

[Spazzy_D]

They would pretty much have to be made from scratch. Having those models in Smash Bros would just be kind of cringe worthy. If you know what I mean.

The might use the models as bases and just build them up, but yeah, the face textures alone on the real models would make me cry in HD.

 

[Andyjoe522]

So guys, I've been thinking. Once we get the subforum, how would you guys feel about giving some of the threads Xenoblade themed names? For example, the image gallery and/or a fan art thread could be called something like "Kenny Rohan's art exhibition" and the fanfic thread (if we're allowed to have one) could be called "Ewan's writing desk." Any thoughts?

 

[Deleted member]

So guys, I've been thinking. Once we get the subforum, how would you guys feel about giving some of the threads Xenoblade themed names? For example, the image gallery and/or a fan art thread could be called something like "Kenny Rohan's art exhibition" and the fanfic thread (if we're allowed to have one) could be called "Ewan's writing desk." Any thoughts?

I would like those! That's actually pretty clever.

Sakurai wont just port Xenoblade models to make trophies of them right? They will have to be made from scratch, or am I wrong?

They would most definitely have to be made from scratch. Those models are really poor quality...

 

[SnapDrake_Games]

So guys, I've been thinking. Once we get the subforum, how would you guys feel about giving some of the threads Xenoblade themed names? For example, the image gallery and/or a fan art thread could be called something like "Kenny Rohan's art exhibition" and the fanfic thread (if we're allowed to have one) could be called "Ewan's writing desk." Any thoughts?

Analysis thread = Shulk's lab

 

[Andyjoe522]

Analysis thread = Shulk's lab

Well, the actual in-game name is "Weapon Development Lab," but either would work I guess.

 

[BoxedCookies]

Afternoon everyone Been scrolling through for a spell, just wanted to say that after replaying through Xenoblade Chronicles, I would love to see Shulk as a playable character, here to show my support. :D

 

[Burruni]

There's something that I've been wondering about with Shulk's inclusion (which I feel is more when than if)...
With Super Smash Bros. 64, all characters had a stage of their series except Ness and Captain Falcon (Ness sharing Dreamland and Captain in Zebes), likely due to there being such a limit on stages in general. Sakurai probably had no idea how big Smash was going to be.
In Melee, the only characters to not have a stage to their franchise were Roy and Marth who meant to have a stage based on Akenia (based on the unused in-game data) that was probably cut due to time constraints.
With Brawl, there was almost as many stages as characters in each franchise, plus the random additions of 75m and Havenbow... but every series of a character had at least one playable stage.
With Smash 3DS/WiiU, there has been a stage you could tie to about every newcomer.
Villager: NotSmashville Town And City
Megaman: Wily's Castle
WFT: Wii Fit training room thing
Rosalina & Luma: Gateway Galaxy
Little Mac: Boxing Ring
Greninja: Kalos Pokemon League/Prism Tower
Mii Fighters: Find Mii, Tomadachi Suite
Palutena: Palutena's Temple
Pac-Man: The-Two-Pac-Stages-Whose-Names-Escape-Me
Lucina/Robin: Arena Ferox.
Assuming this being the case, what exactly would be the stage for Shulk? A half-destroyed Colony 9 during the Mechon Raid? "The Core"? I want to hear your ideas.

 

[SnapDrake_Games]

Afternoon everyone Been scrolling through for a spell, just wanted to say that after replaying through Xenoblade Chronicles, I would love to see Shulk as a playable character, here to show my support. :D

Welcome to the Shulk thread. Hey someone! Give this kind fellow here a gif!

 

[Neo Zero]

Well, the actual in-game name is "Weapon Development Lab," but either would work I guess.

Weapon Development Lab is great. I think I'll use that

 

[Andyjoe522]

There's something that I've been wondering about with Shulk's inclusion (which I feel is more when than if)...
With Super Smash Bros. 64, all characters had a stage of their series except Ness and Captain Falcon (Ness sharing Dreamland and Captain in Zebes), likely due to there being such a limit on stages in general. Sakurai probably had no idea how big Smash was going to be.
In Melee, the only characters to not have a stage to their franchise were Roy and Marth who meant to have a stage based on Akenia (based on the unused in-game data) that was probably cut due to time constraints.
With Brawl, there was almost as many stages as characters in each franchise, plus the random additions of 75m and Havenbow... but every series of a character had at least one playable stage.
With Smash 3DS/WiiU, there has been a stage you could tie to about every character.
Villager: NotSmashville Town And City
Megaman: Wily's Castle
WFT: Wii Fit training room thing
Rosalina & Luma: Gateway Galaxy
Little Mac: Boxing Ring
Greninja: Kalos Pokemon League/Prism Tower
Mii Fighters: Find Mii, Tomadachi Suite
Palutena: Palutena's Temple
Pac-Man: The-Two-Pac-Stages-Whose-Names-Escape-Me
Lucina/Robin: Arena Ferox.
Assuming this being the case, what exactly would be the stage for Shulk? A half-destroyed Colony 9 during the Mechon Raid? "The Core"? I want to hear your ideas.

The idea that we've been tossing around here is a Junks stage that travels around different locations on Bionis and Mechonis. Seems like it would be the best way to represent all the different locations in Xenoblade.

 

[MooseSmuggler]

Afternoon everyone Been scrolling through for a spell, just wanted to say that after replaying through Xenoblade Chronicles, I would love to see Shulk as a playable character, here to show my support. :D

Ooooohhhh @BluePikmin11 we got another one.

And yeah, the stage idea has been discussed to he'll and back. General consensus is Junks traveling around the Bionis. For 3DS, a lot of ideas have been posited.

 

[Solfiner]

@BluePikmin11, new supporter here!

 

[BoxedCookies]

Welcome to the Shulk thread. Hey someone! Give this kind fellow here a gif!

Ooooohhhh @BluePikmin11 we got another one.

And yeah, the stage idea has been discussed to he'll and back. General consensus is Junks traveling around the Bionis. For 3DS, a lot of ideas have been posited.

Thanks guys! ;D Like the moveset ideas!

@BluePikmin11, new supporter here!

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That is beautiful.

 

[Neo Zero]

@BluePikmin11, new supporter here!

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Welcome to the Monado Brotherhood!

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[Deleted member]

Assuming this being the case, what exactly would be the stage for Shulk? A half-destroyed Colony 9 during the Mechon Raid? "The Core"? I want to hear your ideas.

I was thinking of Gaur Plains. You fight on a weird, curved structure and there are animals or the Mechonis in the background. I think that this would represent how different and how vast the world of Xenoblade Chronicles is.

 

[BoxedCookies]

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