Heir to the Monado. Shulk General Discussion/Social Thread

[xLemmy_KoopaX]

Knowing him (if that's possible) in addition to obvious/fan favorites like YWKON, Mechanical Rhythm and Gaur Plains, he's going to pick something really off the wall for a battle theme, like The Legendary Heropon or the Credits Theme.

I would rather expect that for WiiU. The 3DS has really limited song selecton, so I really expect him to add the most fitting stuff.

BTW We have 125 pages now!

 

[Solfiner]

This could work on the 3DS stage:

Spoiler

 

[Deleted member]

Anyway, let me change the topic before I utterly derail this thread. I'm trying to think of something we haven't discussed in a while here. We have an influx of supporters, we should think of something to discuss to get them engaged in the discussion. Oh! I know! What about Smash Run enemies? I feel like Mechon are all but certain, and Telethia are a safe bet as well.

I have a feeling that the enemies that we will see in Smash Run will be nothing but Mechon. Though, Caterpiles, Bunnivs, and Fliers would be good Smash Run enemies.

As for bosses, I expect maybe a Unique Monster (which really tend to be giant versions of regular enemies really). If not, then maybe we can have...

Spoiler

Faced Mechon.

Knowing him (if that's possible) in addition to obvious/fan favorites like YWKON, Mechanical Rhythm and Gaur Plains, he's going to pick something really off the wall for a battle theme, like The Legendary Heropon or the Credits Theme.

I expect Satorl Marsh - Night to be that off-the-wall theme. It makes sense since it is also a fan favorite.

 

[Creo]

I need Shulk in me.

 

[Banjodorf]

I need Shulk in me.

Spoiler

Someone's channeling their inner Fiora/Melia/Reyn.

But in all seriousness, that is a feel I know!!

 

[MooseSmuggler]

I have a feeling that the enemies that we will see in Smash Run will be nothing but Mechon. Though, Caterpiles, Bunnivs, and Fliers would be good Smash Run enemies.

As for bosses, I expect maybe a Unique Monster (which really tend to be giant versions of regular enemies really). If not, then maybe we can have...

Spoiler

Faced Mechon.

I expect Satorl Marsh - Night to be that off-the-wall theme. It makes sense since it is also a fan favorite.

I feel like exclusively Mechon would be a bit disappointing, myself.

Spoiler: On Telethia

Considering how important the Telethia end up being to the plot, it would be a shame not to include them at all. Maybe only one or two types, but at least something, y'know? I won't be upset either way, but it would be a shame not to give them at least one Smash Run enemy type.

 

[Solfiner]

I need Shulk in me.

Spoiler

Someone's channeling their inner Fiora/Melia/Reyn.

But in all seriousness, that is a feel I know!!

 

[KaBlamJamDan]

Oh man, sign me up as a supporter!

also, I wasted couple minutes of my life to make this:

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[TheAnvil]

I sincerely hope that if Shulk is included, his moveset is far more inspiring than Palutena's.

 

[ZXMechonHunter]

I remember there being a neogaf post where the guy was convinced that Shulk wouldn't be in and would suck a **** if he did get in. That guy's gonna be upset on #MonadoMonday.

 

[KaBlamJamDan]

I remember there being a neogaf post where the guy was convinced that Shulk wouldn't be in and would suck a **** if he did get in. That guy's gonna be upset on #MonadoMonday.

As much I would be happy that Shulk does get announced on monday; I wouldn't get too ahead of myself, anything's possible.

 

[Solfiner]

I remember there being a neogaf post where the guy was convinced that Shulk wouldn't be in and would suck a **** if he did get in. That guy's gonna be upset on #MonadoMonday.

A

son?

 

[Banjodorf]

I remember there being a neogaf post where the guy was convinced that Shulk wouldn't be in and would suck a **** if he did get in. That guy's gonna be upset on #MonadoMonday.

I'd go down for a certain crocodilian newcomer, but in Shulk's case victory is almost assured, so that won't be necessary.

 

[Laniv]

I support!

 

[Solfiner]

I am really glad that atleast one character that I want will be in the game. Skull kid is an AT (better than nothing!) Isaac probably isn't happening, and masked man from mother 3 will probably never happen, likewise with Hades.

 

[MooseSmuggler]

I remember there being a neogaf post where the guy was convinced that Shulk wouldn't be in and would suck a **** if he did get in. That guy's gonna be upset on #MonadoMonday.

Ha. Haha. Well someone's gonna be miserable once the #MonadoMonday storm strikes. Even if he isn't announced, it'll only delay the inevitable, since Shulk is all but in and is gonna be awesome.

 

[Banjodorf]

I am really glad that atleast one character that I want will be in the game. Skull kid is an AT (better than nothing!) Isaac probably isn't happening, and masked man from mother 3 will probably never happen, likewise with Hades.

At least those first two have excellent shots at being in PM.

Shulk's time is now!

Poor Hades (and Masked Man. Apparently Mother 3 content is too cool for Smash 4.)

 

[Solfiner]

At least those first two have excellent shots at being in PM.

Shulk's time is now!

Poor Hades (and Masked Man. Apparently Mother 3 content is too cool for Smash 4.)

Well, atleast Shulk has always been my most wanted so I am still really happy.

 

[NintenRob]

I've never played Xenoblade but Shulk looks like a very interesting character.


You guys must be so happy with Gematsu and the retweet of the upcoming trailer.

 

[Banjodorf]

I'm certainly happy Shulk's so likely. I'm also quite fond of Chrom and the Chorus Men, but I do find Gematsu's list disappointingly sparse.

The hopes for K. Roodley are still alive, though!

However, the most important stop is my transfer to the Express Xenotrain on #MonadoMonday.

 

[foolssigma]

So the trailer is apparently 3 minutes long. If #MonadoMonday comes true, You Will Know Our names can play for the second half of the trailer (Typical newcomer destroys all montage) and still allow for the first half of the trailer to be a fake out/vision sequence.

Also, Shulk is going to destroy Mega Man, Samus, and Rob, if revealed, in the trailer cause you know....

 

[lilt]

So, monday seems to be your big day right?

I want to be excited about Shulk's announcement too
and don't want to be disappointed by yet another disputable character inclusion.
I have no connection to Shulk at all.
I started Xenoblade and played like 20 min, 2 times exactly,
but I couldn't get warm with it.

If someone wants to,
would he explain to me what is so good about Shulk?
What differs him from other swordsmen?
How is his overall character?
Why is he deserving a spot on the roster?

Edit: Yep, I read the post on the first page. Sounds nice, but it's not enough for me.

 

[Banjodorf]

So, monday seems to be your big day right?

I want to be excited about Shulk's announcement too
and don't want to be disappointed by yet another disputable character inclusion.
I have no connection to Shulk at all.
I started Xenoblade and played like 20 min, 2 times exactly,
but I couldn't get warm with it.

If someone wants to,
would he explain to me what is so good about Shulk?
What differs him from other swordsmen?
How is his overall character?
Why is he deserving a spot on the roster?

Edit: Yep, I read the post on the first page. Sounds nice, but it's not enough for me.

I'm probably going to get 'd, but...

The Monado isn't just a typical sword, ( what even IS a typical sword?) and has a ton of powers that become more and more interesting as the game goes on, such as: the power to buff allies, shield allies, speed up their reflexes, lock enemies out of special moves, among other things. You don't get even half a taste of it from 20-40 minutes of gameplay.

It also allows Shulk to see the future, which aids him and his allies in battle by warning him of incoming attacks and allowing time to counter, and outside by foretelling future quest objectives for side quests occasionally. Ideas on how this concept could translate to Smash vary.

Shulk isn't your "typical" JRPG protagonist, and instead of a world-saving chosen hero, he's a doubt-filled shy lab geek who sets out on a quest for vengeance with his best friend.

Shulk (and Xenoblade in general) is deserving of a spot on the roster because of its uniqueness in the Nintendo library, series popularity, overall quality, and also an important way to represent both a brand new SERIES that looks to be important for Nintendo's future, and also the now 7+ year relationship between Nintendo and Monolith Soft, who has helped on numerous miscellaneous projects since their acquisition and just grown very close to the Big N.

I hope that helps!

 

[lilt]

I hope that helps!

Maybe they'll find a way to include Shulks abilities in a unique way, and that could be promising.
Also, it's good to hear that he's not the 08/15 RPG character he looks like on first sight.
Thank you for giving me a better picture of him.
I'm indeed a bit excited now for how he'll turn out.

 

[Neo Zero]

I'm also happy Monolith Soft in general is getting recognition. The Xeno titles, including Xenogears, have all been epic masterpieces that have defied conventions to tell truly engrossing stories. Shulk is a great rep for them too, as he really fits well with that legacy (and of course, Nintendo actually owns him).

I'm just glad the world will get more exposure to this great company, and this great character. You will know their names!

 

[Banjodorf]

Maybe they'll find a way to include Shulks abilities in a unique way, and that could be promising.
Also, it's good to hear that he's not the 08/15 RPG character he looks like on first sight.
Thank you for giving me a better picture of him.
I'm indeed a bit excited now for how he'll turn out.

Awesome! I'm glad to hear that! And I'm sure you've heard this a ton by now, but give the soundtrack a listen! There's a lot of awesome battle themes, and a surprising amount of musical variation overall. I'd be surprised if there was a single person no song on the OST could appeal to.

 

[xLemmy_KoopaX]

I've never played Xenoblade but Shulk looks like a very interesting character.


You guys must be so happy with Gematsu and the retweet of the upcoming trailer.

I'm not happy at all with Gematsu. Sure, Shulk is in it, but this damn leak still kills speculation like crazy. It would've been better if it never existed.

EDIT: Also, Shulk being in Gematsu creates hate on him too.

 

[Neo Zero]

I'm not happy at all with Gematsu. Sure, Shulk is in it, but this damn leak still kills speculation like crazy. It would've been better if it never existed.

Plot Twist: Sal's source is Shulk, who forsaw all the characters in a vision.

 

[Banjodorf]

I'm not happy at all with Gematsu. Sure, Shulk is in it, but this damn leak still kills speculation like crazy. It would've been better if it never existed.

I agree there, but then again, speculation this time around has been a nightmare (except for characters like Shulk, Little Mac and Mega Man). Fire Emblem especially has just been...ugh.

Back in 2012 it was Medusa vs Palutena for ever and ever. Just...just haven't had nearly as much fun this time with speculating as I did back in the pre-Brawl days.

 

[lilt]

Awesome! I'm glad to hear that! And I'm sure you've heard this a ton by now, but give the soundtrack a listen! There's a lot of awesome battle themes, and a surprising amount of musical variation overall. I'd be surprised if there was a single person no song on the OST could appeal to.

In fact, I only wanted to play Xenoblade because of the soundtrack. I'm a huge fan of game OST's, so sometimes the soundtrack alone makes me want to play a game. Happend last time with Hotline Miami. Furthermore to great music that Shulk could bring to Smash, there's huge potential for a beautiful stage. That's another pro for Shulk.

 

[Neo Zero]

I agree there, but then again, speculation this time around has been a nightmare (except for characters like Shulk, Little Mac and Mega Man). Fire Emblem especially has just been...ugh.

Back in 2012 it was Medusa vs Palutena for ever and ever. Just...just haven't had nearly as much fun this time with speculating as I did back in the pre-Brawl days.

Probably because you're older, and all the speculation feels boiled down to Gematsu vs Non Gematsu

Me, I'm fine with speculation atm. If the end result is Shulk in Sm4sh, I'm ok with all the fights in the world.

 

[xLemmy_KoopaX]

I agree there, but then again, speculation this time around has been a nightmare (except for characters like Shulk, Little Mac and Mega Man). Fire Emblem especially has just been...ugh.

Back in 2012 it was Medusa vs Palutena for ever and ever. Just...just haven't had nearly as much fun this time with speculating as I did back in the pre-Brawl days.

I wasn't there at the pre-Brawl days, I wasn't even really connected to Nintendo at that point. However, FE discussion was so bad because of Gematsu. If Gematsu didn't exist, people would talk about the possibility of Anna and Robin. Now, they are all just salty on Chrom.

 

[Banjodorf]

Probably because you're older, and all the speculation feels boiled down to Gematsu vs Non Gematsu

Me, I'm fine with speculation atm. If the end result is Shulk in Sm4sh, I'm ok with all the fights in the world.

It's probably mostly that at this point. That, and Sakurai's been handling Ridley extremely poorly if he's not playable, and that hasn't made speculating any more bearable.

Mario speculation was Toad vs. BJ vs. Waaaa with a smattering of Rosie, and now we saw how that turned out. I completely love her addition, but it didn't make any sense to the old speculation methods at first and hurt three fanbases at once.

Sigh.

@ xLemmy_KoopaX

"Ike's getting cut for Corn!" Was another thorn in the FE debate, when anyone with half a brain knew it wasn't a logical conclusion.

It just made me angry in that thread. A lot of things have made me angry this time around. Stuff like MM, Mac, Greninja, Rosie, Tuna and soon Shulk have made it all at least bearable though.

 

[Solfiner]

I can't stand fire emblem discussions, because the most unlikely characters always get brought up like they even have a chance.

 

[Deleted member]

EDIT: Also, Shulk being in Gematsu creates hate on him too.

While this may be the case, I think that most feel that Shulk is at least the most redeemable part of the leak. He's by far the least polarizing part of the leak in general.

Plot Twist: Sal's source is Shulk, who forsaw all the characters in a vision.

I wouldn't be surprised! Thank the Bionis that Shulk gave us this vision!

I can't stand fire emblem discussions, because the most unlikely characters always get brought up like they even have a chance.

Honestly, I held off on getting Awakening purely because of Fire Emblem discussion for a very long time.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I'm not happy at all with Gematsu. Sure, Shulk is in it, but this damn leak still kills speculation like crazy. It would've been better if it never existed.

EDIT: Also, Shulk being in Gematsu creates hate on him too.

Considering how bad speculation has been before, I'm glad we know what we're getting and can move on with shifting our priorities towards other factors like gameplay for the varies characters we know.

Unfortunately, some folks are still in that denial phase, and all that will do is drag down people back to reality in the worst way possible.

 

[xLemmy_KoopaX]

Right now, this thread feels so unhappy.
Let's change this! Quickly!

Have some Riki!

 

[Banjodorf]

I can't stand fire emblem discussions, because the most unlikely characters always get brought up like they even have a chance.

Yeah...Pokemon suffers from the same ****, and I always just shake my head. I'm all for people liking what they want, as long as they understand the risks and don't take it too far.

It'd be like if someone made a thread for Mumkhar (I'd totally play him btw) and kept arguing how much more likely than Shulk he is. And actually believed it.

On a happier note: I REALLY want a variable "party summon" FS or item, just so Dunban, Riki, Reyn, and the gang can all make their mark on Smash. Please Sakurai?

 

[Solfiner]

Considering how bad speculation has been before, I'm glad we know what we're getting and can move on with shifting our priorities towards other factors like gameplay for the varies characters we know.

Unfortunately, some folks are still in that denial phase, and all that will do is drag down people back to reality in the worst way possible.

I completely agree. For some reason people want to be salty and negative instead of constructive though.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I'm not happy at all with Gematsu. Sure, Shulk is in it, but this damn leak still kills speculation like crazy. It would've been better if it never existed.

EDIT: Also, Shulk being in Gematsu creates hate on him too.

The person who allows the hatred to blind them creates more hate.

This is my first true rodeo with Smash spec, and I'm going to be honest, a lot of it was terrible. No offense to anyone here, but there were a lot of terrible character threads and plenty of people trying to be heroes.

That said, Shulk fans have always been some of the best in my eyes. Never starting big fights, never becoming desperate, etc...I'm glad to be able to discuss him in this kind of setting.