Ryu would probably would have July copped, haha
I'd rather track someone unawares to potentially catch the scumkill. Tracking John to his target just opens up WIFOM about whether he's scum with me, doesn't it? At least I can see Ryu saying as much. John's explanation seems very legit, it's one-shot and there's no sense blowing it early
Honesty makes a claim believable; the best fakeclaims are mostly true. Being quiet at this point wasn't an option, you'd already called her out with the JTB watch. With no one else claimed, she might've thought a straight vig claim wouldn't have been believable.
The one thing that does have me leaning townJuly is that she didn't shoot N1. And she's probably not mafia; if she is mafia then the other kill was done by an indy (who in that case hasn't claimed obv) xD but let's not put on foil hats,
the best we can do is assume the worst and politely ask her not to kill
If people don't want me to shoot then I won't shoot, but I think that me shooting has to be an option if we mislynch toDay, looking at the numbers.
There are 8 of us right now.
Worst case scenario there are 3 scum, and thus 5 town.
Mislynch: 3 scum, 4 town.
Successful night kill: 3 scum, 3 town= game over= problem is this is likely if we mislynch since all our roles are out in the open.
However, if I take a shot in this situation and I hit scum, numbers go to 2 scum, 3 town and we still have a chance. If I shoot town, we obviously still lose but I haven't done anymore damage than the Night kill already did.
Less terrible scenario where there are 2 scum, 6 town.
Mislynch: 2 scum, 5 town.
Successful night kill: 2 scum, 4 town.
Vig shot, hit scum= 1 scum, 4 town. Vig shot, hit town: 2 scum, 3 town.
In this situation, either way my shot doesn't end the game either, SO I think that if we mislynch I should shoot. Assuming a J lynch toDay, my shot pool would likely be between RR and Nabe, because with their claims one of the two of them is likely scum.
However, if the lynchee toDay flips scum and you don't want me to shoot so we can get results in and figure them out toMorrow, then I understand that.
I'd like everyone to list their top scumpick of who they want lynched.
Nabe.
J.
I more or less picked up my read on RR toDay. See let me flesh this out a bit, the claims have really skewed my reads toDay because well for one, I thought Bardull/Sokr were scum yet they both flip town. (My reads this game...;_; ) RR's claim of having a restriction, then someone clearing it up, and then him getting a Track-RB seems really trippy for a couple of reasons.
1.) No-one claimed "I sober'd RR up." and plus we already have a Tracker+Watcher combo in the game as well, so it does not make sense that he would also get a tracker ability if we are considering the fact of One-shot cop and also your roles. I also do not get the point of a town one-shot RB considering what we have this game are one-night dependent or one-shot or couple shot(July's kill). The only PR we have that is every night it seems is Raz (which makes his the most believable and he went from being my strongest scummy read to my towniest read with that post. xD) Also RR's way of trying to make himself seem like a town leader is odd because I don't get the posturing he is trying to do. He isn't really considering all options (I.e. July lynch, No Lynch, and also 2-man mafia team instead of 3-man.) Plus I don't like how he continuously tries to direct what we should all do because I believe iirc, he was the first to call upon this as his reasoning.
During the first phase of the game, he was more anti-town than scummy but he did not offer anything substantial to the phase of the game. D2 is not something any of us can really gain from besides w.r.t. Marshy's slot. I've explained D3 as well.
JTB was a town read? I do not remember that one. If anyone, I would have watched Gorf last Night because he was the one most people saw as town in this game so I do not get that fact. Personal preference haha.
John's actions lack scum-intent and seem much more towny>scummy. I don't remember most of his posts sticking out to me as scummy, but the thing I remember most was disagreeing heavily with Bardull's case on John because it was a reach and did not really seem to showcase why John was scummy.
And fiiiine, I'm already late to my party as is so I will get something quickly up. July's posts as of late are just her trying to position herself to what town will most likely lean towards after he claim. She isn't trying to look for scum but more or less defend herself from the lynch. Her OMGUS attack on me is grimy because she had even stated for the entire game how I was one of her strongest town reads and that she felt I was town. She turns on me, the second I turn on her for being Indy yet that seems the pure basis of her flip. Looks just knee-jerk to me. Her play in the beginning day phases I can definitely see as cautious play for her in terms of what she was doing. I actually do not recall a single push July has made in this game and that makes me worry about her more. July usually has someone she attaches to and she pushes as scum but this game, I don't recall that, and if there was, it did not leave an impression.
Now trade me your thoughts on RR/July. ;P
I do not recall saying you were town, though tbh I cannot remember a majority of D1 since I just took the majority of it playing the catch up game and getting through things.
For most of the game I did find you townie because you only had minor actions that made me question you, such as you buddying me early on (which Circus pointed out) and your
#163 which was vague and only hit on Gorf, RR, John and Bardull, despite Nabe and Circus' suspicions on you from earlier which I thought should have helped you get a read on him. But those things didn't stand out as having scummy intent like you pushing my lynch when you KNOW it could lead to an endgame situation showed. You even say that RR isn't considering all of the options because he wasn't willing to bet on there only being 2 scum or considering my lynch; but that's such a...twisted view on that situation. He's the first one who considered that I might be indy but he realized that if there are 3 scum then my lynch very likely means scum wins. What you've done is completely ignore that possibility and town wincon in order to push for my lynch even though you've acknowledged that I'm likely not mafia and that there could be 3 mafia, even though you
think there are only 2.
And you've ignored my points and questions directed at you, of which I would especially like an answer to this question: Whether you would be willing to risk the game on my lynch?
