Hearts Mafia - Game over! Who won?

[Raziek]

Prod acknowledged. I'll re-read this later tonight and offer my input on the plan.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Well, Ruy? Am I your Watson?

That's my schtick

 

[ranmaru]

That's my schtick

Yeah but RR stole it from you, getting to your post now

 

[#HBC | marshy]

does anyone else envision nabe as literally butt cheeks irl?

 

[ranmaru]

This makes no sense. If Ryu were to lie about me and say I targeted the killed player, or if Ryu were to lie about Raz and say Raz targeted the killed player, the end result is still that town has to sort out which tracker lied. Both of us tracking each other doesn't solve that problem, a lie is a lie. What does solve it is neither of us tracking at all, which is also stupid because then there's no info whatsoever. The best thing to do is as I've said, not track each other and interpret the results.

Ah ok. How about you both either:

1. Do nothing
2. That's it.

Ok, if you want to do whatever you want, RR will still track you. You cool with that?

Also my read on him and you are the same, except i'm leaning towards you a bit more. Just because I can see scumintent in you, and not really from RR. Just stubbornness. But I can see he wants scum dead. It's just it is still him or you because of claims.

 

[ranmaru]

does anyone else envision nabe as literally butt cheeks irl?

No. I envision him as two hairs in the wind. Always.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

wow ive never seen that but it def makes 50x more sense

 

[Raziek]

I don't want to lynch J here. Rather he be shot by July.

Really conflicted on Marshy.

Ruy, did you claim your third ability? If you haven't, why?

 

[ranmaru]

Why don't you want to lynch J?

Also you at least cool with doccing July?

 

[Raziek]

Give me one good reason to Doc a likely Indy over a claimed Cop.

 

[ranmaru]

Indy can be lynched later? (If she is indy)

She'll help us shoot scum if town is mislynched ToDay.

Cop is one shot, and scummy. Look at that dudes play. I believe he is lying about his role.

What's your opinion on Nabe?

 

[ranmaru]

Meaning, I trust July more than John. July has 2 shots left, John only has one. That he hasn't ever used. For two nights. That's fishy.

 

[ranmaru]

Also you didn't answer, why don't you want J lynched?

 

[John2k4]

I gave my reasoning as to why I didn't use it.

Because the mod confirmed that my results would be accurate, I did not want to use my Cop power early.

 

[ranmaru]

Hey John, if J flipped scum, who would you look at afterwards?

Btw John, what is your opinion of me?

John you answer quick to say that, but not this.

Can you answer these questions?

 

[Raziek]

League, back in a bit.

 

[ranmaru]

Also I'm cool with voting J after Raz posts, and July posts.

I want J to post but he's really ignoring the points against him. I will not wait for him, I can already see scum intent in his actions without seeing his reply to July.

 

[ranmaru]

Btw I can see John doesn't care to elaborate on his opinion of me or who he thinks would be scum upon a JSCUM flip. Yet he does care to elaborate why he didn't use his role for two nights. Chew on that.

 

[John2k4]

I just got back home, and skimmed looking for responses to what I said earlier.

I wasn't feeling too good yesterday, so I went to bed early.

For your questions:

If J flipped scum, I'd want you out, Ran.

Opinion on you? Not too good recently. You're trying to say "Look guys! I asked John a question last night, and he hasn't responded! Look at how scummy he is!"


Guys, J is not being Lynched toDay. Marshy is being lynched.

 

[John2k4]

I mean Marshy is the very definition of coasting right now. Why did he get away with spam posting to get a lynch to go through, and now coasting?

 

[ranmaru]

John would you feel better if J was shot instead?

Hmmm let me see......

 

[ranmaru]

Well, Ruy? Am I your Watson?

John, can you tell me what the reason for this post was?

Also, you said you felt sick, so why didn't you say this here? How can I know that you were feeling sick and that is why you really couldn't focus on my questions?

How am I scummy for thinking you are scummy for avoiding questions?

 

[John2k4]

It was a reference to Gigabots Mafia where Ruy trusted me and asked me to "be his Watson".
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I didn't even think to post here that I was not feeling too good. To be honest, mafia was the last thing I felt like doing yesterday afternoon. I'll save comments on this for postgame, but it's pissing me off that you think such a thing.
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I didn't say you were scum for asking it; Your hard pushing for a J lynch recently is more of what I am not liking. Funny you should pick up on only that, though.

 

[ranmaru]

How would you feel about J being Shot?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

sup guys

 

[John2k4]

J won't be shot. Either you or Nabe will be shot.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

why are you such a hater john?

 

[John2k4]

Why are you coasting, Marshy?

 

[ranmaru]

@JohN:

It was a reference to Gigabots Mafia where Ruy trusted me and asked me to "be his Watson".

Yeah but why did you ask him that? Is there something you want from him?

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I didn't even think to post here that I was not feeling too good. To be honest, mafia was the last thing I felt like doing yesterday afternoon. I'll save comments on this for postgame, but it's pissing me off that you think such a thing.
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Yeah, dude in the future, you should post such things, because we can't know WHY you are doing things. If it is something in IRL, you at least gotta give us a warning. There is nothing wrong with posting "I'm not feeling to good guys, I'll get to [whoever's] responses tommorow" etc.

Fine, be pissed, but I have the right to suspect you for it.

I didn't say you were scum for asking it; Your hard pushing for a J lynch recently is more of what I am not liking. Funny you should pick up on only that, though.

You said you weren't liking me recently. What exactly did you mean by this?

Also this is a lie, you never said you were disliking me for my J push. And what is scummy about pushing J?

Opinion on you? Not too good recently. You're trying to say "Look guys! I asked John a question last night, and he hasn't responded! Look at how scummy he is!"

This is your reason for disliking me. No where do I see a "I don't like you for pushing J hard".

 

[ranmaru]

J won't be shot. Either you or Nabe will be shot.

Why Nabe? Didn't you say you had a town read on him?

Also, J is being lynched toDay

 

[John2k4]

So this is what it's like talking to a freaking wall.


Ran I don't even know how to respond to you right now. Will check back here later.

J is not being lynched. Marshy is.
End. Of. Story.

 

[ranmaru]

It is simple. Just answer the questions. And ya j is gettin lynched

 

[#HBC | marshy]

"js getting lynched"

"nah marshy is"

"r u srs dude **** outta hear j is"

"nah brah marshy coastin like a maw****a he gotta go"

"wow y u no answer questions son? btw no j"

i mean really guys

 

[ranmaru]

Dammit marshy makin me laugh in the grocery store and get distracted...

 

[#HBC | marshy]

man where is j

j come back to me

and just admit youre scum son

 

[ranmaru]

Hes lurkin

 

[#HBC | J]

Not lurking, busy. >=[

What you need Marshy bro? Why am I scum? I ain't you missed where I got cleared.

Ran, re-quote your points for me please?

John, <3.

 

[#HBC | J]

Oh, can someone link me to July's posts too? I recall being a little miffed at reading her saying I was lying when she wasn't using the correct wording.

 

[#HBC | J]

Who here would lynch RR?

I totally would.

 

[ranmaru]

Here you go J, my points:

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14479589&postcount=983

I'm pretty confident in J scum, if he's not the lynch toDay then I will undoubtedly shoot him toNight.



@Bolded: That's clearly, CLEARLY a lie. I've been pushing you toDay and I've weighed the RR/Nabe tracking issue because I'm confident that two out of three scum lie between you three. YOU don't care about town wincon, you only cared about getting me lynched and making up every possible excuse to lynch me despite the fact that it could lead to a scum win. What possible reason could you have as town to do that when you know it means town could lose the game?

Also, that question I asked you TWICE now that you haven't answered is quite important, and you won't answer it directly. Because you know that lynching me can result in endgame, and yet you've kept pushing for me. So, are you willing to risk the game on the assumption that I am lying about being vig AND that there are only two mafia? Because that's what you've inferred with your push on me since my claim and RR's explanation of the numbers.

Also, tell me what the meat of your last post is which I should address; I've definitely addressed the meat of your reasons for wanting me dead. I didn't address the RR points because the only thing that I don't think was mentioned before was the sobering up part, which you don't explain why that's scummy for him; do you think it's a gambit or something? I also disagreed that he hasn't considered all the options, and I don't think that him trying to become town leader is indicative of alignment for RR. The only other point, the similar roles, had been brought up many times.

As for your other points against me, I'm clearly looking at intent behind your actions, not OMGUS. My play D1 I don't think was any more cautious than I usually play D1, and your point about me latching onto players is kinda moot when I'm latched onto you right now and have been most of the Day :-/.

Also, you said that RR is leaning scum to you. Tell me who you think RR's scummate(s) are and why.



I agree with Ran's latest plan, I agree with the amendments to the plan.