Vote: July
Lynch
All
Indies
For goodness sake this is almost not even up for debate. We have absolutely no reason to trust July, we have info from July saying that she is anti-town UNTIL she completes a certain win condition and its making my head spin at the very notion of keeping her around simply because she might be able to become town and win with town after said thing.
I agree to a mass-claim toDay and I'd prefer to go last as some people have already put me but I'm kind of just content with a July lynch atm.
I don't think RR or anyone proposed keeping me around because I might be able to win with town. You are keeping me around because I am either vig or indy. Either way if you kill me and there are 3 mafia, entire town loses. Either way, I can help scumhunt for now.
J, if you were content with my lynch for the Day, why were you also in favor of a mass-claim? If you thought that lynching me was the only direction to go (and since the mass-claim you seem to still feel that way) then what would you gain by supporting a mass-claim other than outing prs?
null for the first time ever...what was i before my d2 victoryplay?
red ruy **** outta hear telling people not to vote like you run ****. EVERYONE FEEL FREE TO VOTE
july...you are worst ****ing vig on ****ing earth. you shot jtb when we could have j/raziek dead by now. you have THREE shots too. that is awesome. please shoot j/raz tonight
sokr was playing like scum and yall wouldve been hatin on him anyway. you guys should be thanking me for that lynch
also im not claiming **** til everyone else does. feel free to hate!
I thought that JTB was scummy for his D1 play and for his nonchalant reaction to your shot on Sokr. I also made it known I found JTB scummy before I shot him; you kept calling J and Raziek scummy and then ran up the postcount to get Sokr lynched instead -_-
Anyways, since J and Raz have both claimed, have your reads changed on them at all?
not only that but you shot him literally off of one post. one post. in the entire game. when we had a whole days worth of information to choose from and j/raziek as blatant scum. what the in the mother****
just admit youre serial killer please
JTB had more than one questionable post, as I pointed out D1.
Ran claimed watcher, not tracker @ John. I'm tracker.
Maybe we should NL? John cops, I track, Raz docs between John and I, July no-shoots (sorry for your wincon but it's mylo, take town win as a moral victory :D) and Ryu picks a good RB choice. Between all our roles that should cover the whole board and we can out a liar toMorrow.
If we don't NL, I'd go Marshy. Considering how readily he took advantage of the half-post day to speed out a lynch, he probably caused it, and I can't imagine how/why that ability could a) be town and b) fit in to what's been claimed.
I agree to a NL and not taking a shot toNight.
I would consider Marshy as a lynch option for toDay, but I also want to look at J for the way he's been willing to disregard the possibility that lynching me toDay + an nk could end the game.
Wait a second, I was too busy being infatuated by Nabe's last post.
We are lynching July toDay like noooo way in hell are we having a claimed Indy life into the night. She has literally claimed Spade, that's not a town-aligned thing and her win condition is to shoot another Spade in order to become part of town? She didn't say she will turn into a Heart like the rest of us, but instead just be able to win with us.
HoS: July
Pseudo-voting her for the time being but yeah, she has got to go.
Are you really willing to risk the fate of town on my lynch, not just on the assumption that I am indy but on the assumption that there are only 2 mafia or that a mafia kill won't go through toNight?
No matter how "sure" you are that I am indy, your plan is short-sighted, unless you are scum, in which this plays into your wincon which would be to lynch me toDay, get an nk through toNight and win the game.
See that's the thing we are playing into the possibility of her going along with us and even if she did, it does nothing to help us determine her alignment. It just puts off the situation till a later date. We also don't have enough people for that option because a wrong shot+NK = game over.
HoS = Hand of Suspicion = Stronger suspicion than FoS
Ran, I will get back to you on that but her "win-con" and stuff just reeks of Indy trying to appeal to town to not lynch her with a wonky win-con. It doesn't even make sense from a town PoV.
You don't seem to be considering that whether I'm vig or indy,
I have to beat mafia to win too. So what motivation do I have not to cooperate with the rest of town?
And what doesn't make sense from a town PoV?
We're not No Lynching.
Even if I roleblock July, we are going to be deeper in a harder to dig out kingmaker, which we are partially in right now.
I'm assuming 3 scum left for mafia, and July is an indy SK with a wincon to kill a mafia, still doesn't mean **** because Indies will lie about their wincon to fool town never trust it, ever.
We are not lynching July, that will result in a GG for mafia.
Kk, if we don't no lynch then who is in your lynch pool?
Also, if we do lynch toDay and the person flips town, do we chose someone for me to take a shot on or no?
If it came down to it, definitely leaning RanScum>NabeScum. The way he came in auto-assuming July was scum>even considering the possibility that she was just a vig before she claimed is very rash thinking which I don't really get into seeing the town-intent behind. He just seemed to be frothing at the mouth for a July lynch without even really thinking about giving much explanation.
Idk how really to explain it but it came off as more malicious then towny.
But what about Ran's accurate result that I visited and killed JTB last Night? His is one of the few prs that we can actually prove exists so far. Do you think it is a scum pr?
@RR: Well if we are looking at players play aaaand considering PRs, I would probably assume a 2 mafia team with good PRs with JulySK. I haven't seen too many games with 3+SK in the mix. I have seen 3+1 buuut with like more passive indy roles.
Are you willing to risk the entire game on this assumption. I don't know how accurate your numbers are but it seems like you are willing to say pretty much anything to assure everyone else that killing me will not result in a mafia win -_-
So right now I don't like J for his willingness to push me even though he knows it could result in a mafia win toNight, and the excuses he's been willing to make to push through the lynch such as 2 mafia, 1 indy teams being more likely than 3 mafia, 1 indy teams, which is using two big assumptions (that I'm indy and that there are only 2 mafia) to justify my lynch toDay. It plays to mafia wincon, but not to town wincon for him to propose such things.
I also have thoughts on the claims but I want to wait until after the mass claim is over and Marshy claims to state my thoughts.
