Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

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So now that I spend more time doing other stuff, it's finally gotten to the point where I lose the majority of my games. It sucks because I knew I used to be better, but I just don't get to play enough anymore...

 

[Hylian]

Anyone tried Surge on Fizz?

 

[Vyke]

Surge feels pretty lackluster to me at the moment. I feel like only a select few champs could utilize it well enough to want to take it over Exhaust/Ignite/Etc.

 

[DMG]

Surge is fine on AoE sustained damage casters. Karthus for example probably gets more out of it than Ignite since he will do tons of ****in damage to everyone.

 

[Ignatius]

I'm a pretty big fan of Surge on Karthus, pretty nice on him. Additionally if you manage to live through a fight late game and still have surge duration, or have it come up after a fight you become a building destroying machine between damage from AP on attacks and the AS on it.

 

[MacD]

i was thinking about surge on brand and my conclusion with 0 testing was

in lane, i'd rather have ignite and most likely get the kill after my stun

in teamfights, i'd rather have surge cause like 70 extra AP of AOE damage so much better

basically, for 1v1 i think ignite is better, but for AOE or like or someone with very short cooldowns ignite would be better

also, if i were say malz, and did surge after the malefic vision was on someone, would it do more damage or is it the AP from when you cast? i guess it's like that with wota and stuff too

answer is yes, i forgot i could just test it real quick in a custom, seems like it might be a no duh but you never know

 

[voorhese]

i wanna play in the skirmish or spectate!

 

[adumbrodeus]

Apologies, I have to bow out of the skrim, something came up.

 

[Shaya]

Surge is a pretty over powered early game spell, in my opinion....

This one time...
this level 2 tryndamere...
he surged...
and
1v3'd.
And
won

I cried a little.

Because nothing screams "**** MY LIFE" as a tryndamere who can only be exhausted for 3 seconds while getting unrimited fury stacks for twelve seconds.

 

[UTDZac]

I'm running late. Car buying takes forever. Sorry.

Will be back in 1 hour.

 

[Virgilijus]

Doesn't surge just help AS and AP? How the hell does a Tryn win a 1v3 with that if he doesn't all ready have an advantage in the fight?

 

[Shaya]

Doesn't surge just help AS and AP? How the hell does a Tryn win a 1v3 with that if he doesn't all ready have an advantage in the fight?

Spin and heal is 1:1 AP ratio, although the ap you get from surge at level 2 isn't really worth writing home about.
But either way, 40% AS speed equates to a 1050 gold advantage on the spot - it last 12 seconds. It's incredibly strong considering at level 1 you're capable of being 3x as more 'farmed' as any other character for 12 seconds.

He played it smart though, and we played it dumb.
But after the first kill he literally out dps'd two of us.

 

[MacD]

aka tryndamere OP

 

[Shaya]

Well, I'm sure a master yi with alpha strike and wuju style would be incredibly ****ing scary too with surge.

They honestly need to massacre tryndamere's heal though. ITS JUST TOO GOOD (in lane)

 

[fkacyan]

Surge on Fizz is actually pretty absurd

I'm not sure why anybody would consider 80AP @ 18 for as long as Surge lasts bad.

 

[Shaya]

Sure on Fizz is actually pretty absurd

I'm not sure why anybody would consider 80AP @ 18 for as long as Surge lasts bad.

That's why Surge is pretty good even though the AS doesn't scale.
I honestly find it a bit funny that at level 2 with ezreal I can have bonus 90% attack speed.

The level 2 rushdown is incredible. All you need to do is get your support to bait the exhaust (and perhaps flash out) and you get a double kill.

 

[fkacyan]

That's why Surge is pretty good even though the AS doesn't scale.
I honestly find it a bit funny that at level 2 with ezreal I can have bonus 90% attack speed.

The level 2 rushdown is incredible. All you need to do is get your support to bait the exhaust (and perhaps flash out) and you get a double kill.

master yi surge ghost stack zeals kill towers

 

[Zolga Owns]

So are we not doing this or?

 

[Vyke]

We're waiting on Zac to get back.

 

[jpak]

So are we not doing this or?

I'm running late. Car buying takes forever. Sorry.

Will be back in 1 hour.

ihelpyouzolga

 

[Shaya]

Like honestly, the sheer potential of this surge may bring back ranged carries being given blue and or red buff as the first task of the jungler. Perhaps even throwing them back into mid as Surge would outdo anything an enemy caster could pull off with their summoner spells (bar teleport/revive, perhaps?); Corki, MF, Ezreal, Twitch?

How would bot lane be able to handle a buff ranged carry with surge?

 

[Zolga Owns]

ihelpyouzolga

okay. I DIDNT SEE IT GOD. gonna study I guess. genetics are a *****. >_>

 

[Vyke]

You'd probably deal with Surge the same way any other spell, bait it out and fake a commit.

 

[Shaya]

You'd probably deal with Surge the same way any other spell, bait it out and fake a commit.

Red buff, ghost and surge ranged ad with ad quints and armor pen reds.
The enemy happens to be past the river.
You also happen to have a Sona, Janna, Taric or Alistar.
The first two being great for their damage buffs + pseudo cc + some poke, the last two providing enough cc to likely allow a ranged carry the time needed to deeps someone down.

I wouldn't be surprised if the 1050 gold advantage allows a ranged carry + support to be able to handle the enemy bot lane + a jungle gank (bar getting burst down, of course)

 

[Vyke]

Hype it if you want to. Just don't be surprised if nobody else is willing to be as enthusiastic. Hard to let go of the standard spells, people are unwilling to adjust.

 

[UTDZac]

I am back, finally

Will send out invites soon.

 

[PhantomX]

Who stream this?

 

[Wave⁂]

master yi surge ghost stack zeals kill towers

With the new anti-tower masteries, this could actually be pretty viable.

Also, Surge is an Akali buff

 

[Cyan_]

The Streamer? lol

nope

who streams and has a similar name as me?

 

[UTDZac]

Dphat will be hosting tonight's scrim. My computer is acting wacky so I won't be able to play

 

[DallasPhat]

SO gay why am i running this.. well whoever want to participate go to custom game and join SWF TNS Game 1
Pass is SWF

 

[Abel1994]

I swear if Anivia gets nerf...

So I started using her and my last 20 games with her I outlaned a graves who raged how op Anivia is and all those games people said she op... Just won a game were I carried a feeding team and went 19/2/10... Oh god I love how much the other team raged.

 

[DallasPhat]

I'll be streaming the first SWF TNS if anyone interested. It will be on www.justin.tv/dphat0
Also got plenty of room so if anyone interested come find my custom game
Custom game name: SWF TNS Game 1
Password: SWF

 

[PhantomX]

UTDZac ultimate troll, lol.

Stream it, Dphat. I want to watch something while I homework.

 

[DarkDragoon]

Also, Surge is an Akali buff

Checking some theorycraft. Brb.
-DD

 

[Zolga Owns]

Well, this'll give me something to watch while I attempt to understand Heredity. GOOD LUCK GUISE.

 

[Vyke]

nope

who streams and has a similar name as me?

Idk, I just see a stream simply named League of Legends from time to time... figured I'd piece the two together.

Quit looking at this post, DPHAT.

Dphat turn on your stream's chat and pay attention to it. Also apply your stream for CLG's stream-page.

 

[DallasPhat]

www.justin.tv/dphat0
First SWF TNS is being streamed.

BTW shout outs to scumbag Zac for making me organize all this **** for no reason.

 

[fkacyan]

www.justin.tv/dphat0
First SWF TNS is being streamed.

BTW shout outs to scumbag Zac for making me organize all this **** for no reason.

But he's not bitter.

 

[PhantomX]

Why everyone dropping out?