Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[Wave⁂]

Wait, if we're not talking about LoL, what are we talking about?

 

[fkacyan]

Wait, if we're not talking about LoL, what are we talking about?

Drawing parallels, how does it work?

 

[Wave⁂]

Let's take a look back.

2 seconds of of +30% MS isn't that fantastic.

Self-explanatory.

2 seconds of 30% MS on a small map where the point is to get to and control objectives combined with a significant increase in cap speed, as well as health regen for increased staying power when holding a node or moving between them, increasing time you're on the field and not at the pool.

Stick to SR if you don't understand why this item is the best item in Dominion globally. And, if you really want to play Dominion and you don't get why this item is amazing, look at every other game that contains point control and look at the specializations / classes that excel at them.

You say what you can do with Priscilla's Blessing. You follow up with an amazing and well-thought out ad hominem argument.

Okay, I will admit that the active will get you to a point at most 2 seconds faster, which means you have 2 more nexus points (unless you're already ahead, in which case you don't actually need to capture points).

Man. Two points.

I say what you can do with Priscilla's Blessing.

This is the same type of person who dies to raid mechanics and wonders why I tell them to put 8% movespeed on their boots.

Another excellent, brilliant ad hominem attack. You also imply that, in an argument where we are discussing cost-effectiveness of items, a different game with different items is an appropriate parallel.

 

[Tom]

How much do they make per commercial per viewer?

$0.01 x 24,000 x9 = $2160 in 270 seconds.

Assuming 1 cent per commercial per viewer.
-DD

Own3D's base rate is $3/1000 ad impressions. Hotshot's making more than that, but we don't know how much.

 

[john!]

ggs to everyone i teamed with tonight.

dphat who was playing on your other account?

 

[fkacyan]

Wave, ad licentia and ad hominem are not the same thing.

 

[Tom]

neither of you would last two Days, give it a rest

 

[Wave⁂]

Wave, ad licentia and ad hominem are not the same thing.

Of all the things in my post your could debate, you pick that?

I wonder if Priscilla's could be worth it on assassins. If their job is to get in and kill one guy really fast, it could be worth it to make sure you get the point afterwards. My only concern would be finding a point that you can easily take.

 

[DallasPhat]

My friend and I traded accounts John.

 

[DanGR]

My friend and I traded accounts John.

I don't understand you sometimes bro.

I mean, in what context would trading accounts make sense lol

 

[Wave⁂]

Trying out champs comes to mind.

 

[Saki-]

Champion/Rune selection? It's the only thing I could think of.

 

[PhantomX]

It's b/c he got one of them to 1800+ and managed to keep it there, while he lost it on the other.

 

[Ignatius]

Is quadralift a doublelift smurf? And if so, why is he on my friends list.

 

[Wave⁂]

If you don't recognize the name, it's probably a name change.

 

[ConnorTheKid]

how do all of you fine gentlemen keep yourselves from rage quitting?

I've been finding myself really frustrated with everything lately and I haven't had "fun" while playing for a while now.

how do I keep myself from abusing loved ones after a long night of losses?

this game is boogoti ******es.

 

[JTB]

you take a break and come back later, i usually find something else to play for a few days until i get bored.

 

[Mogwai]

streaming: http://www.own3d.tv/live/82457

I'm drunk, fair warning. Like, real drunk.

 

[Scamp]

2 seconds of 30% MS on a small map where the point is to get to and control objectives combined with a significant increase in cap speed, as well as health regen for increased staying power when holding a node or moving between them, increasing time you're on the field and not at the pool.

Stick to SR if you don't understand why this item is the best item in Dominion globally. And, if you really want to play Dominion and you don't get why this item is amazing, look at every other game that contains point control and look at the specializations / classes that excel at them.

Yeah I'd have to agree that this quote is a very poor argument. But for an interesting reason.

Thio you say "stick to SR if you don't understand..." but that statement is very confusing. SR is very much about point control. So how come movespeed items aren't universally the best items there?

 

[fkacyan]

Yeah I'd have to agree that this quote is a very poor argument. But for an interesting reason.

Thio you say "stick to SR if you don't understand..." but that statement is very confusing. SR is very much about point control. So how come movespeed items aren't universally the best items there?

SR's style of point control is not even close to being the same as Dominion's CP style. There is no item even remotely equivalent in SR. You can win SR by properly grouping up and winning teamfights. If you zerg from node to node in Dominion the other team will just cap what you leave, and relatively quickly at that if they're using PB, like they should be.

That said... Triforce is pretty much globally fantastic on most champions out there and it has movespeed. Sheen proc only goes so far if you aint in melee range, broski.

 

[Plum]

Yeah I'd have to agree that this quote is a very poor argument. But for an interesting reason.

Thio you say "stick to SR if you don't understand..." but that statement is very confusing. SR is very much about point control. So how come movespeed items aren't universally the best items there?

Map size, wards, access to teleport, respawn timers on major points to control like Dragon/Baron/buffs, taking a tower is permanent, blah blah blah you are just comparing apples and oranges. They play very differently.

 

[Ignatius]

If you don't recognize the name, it's probably a name change.

Turns out it is a double lift smurf.

 

[Hylian]

Gg's dphat, I learn a lot when playing with you.

 

[HondaFoo]

Gg's dphat, I learn a lot when playing with you.

O__O Dphat why you no play with me???????

 

[DallasPhat]

Gg Jordan, listen to dphat and profit right? Lol but nah you learn quick so I know you can get a lot better. Fun games though we got to play more often with each other.

 

[Scamp]

SR's style of point control is not even close to being the same as Dominion's CP style. There is no item even remotely equivalent in SR. You can win SR by properly grouping up and winning teamfights. If you zerg from node to node in Dominion the other team will just cap what you leave, and relatively quickly at that if they're using PB, like they should be.

That said... Triforce is pretty much globally fantastic on most champions out there and it has movespeed. Sheen proc only goes so far if you aint in melee range, broski.

Map size, wards, access to teleport, respawn timers on major points to control like Dragon/Baron/buffs, taking a tower is permanent, blah blah blah you are just comparing apples and oranges. They play very differently.

I understand they play differently but I'm building to a point. Thio is suggesting entire teams build PB which I find a horrible tactic. He's also taking SR strats and discussing how they don't work in Dom, which is also appling oranges.

The point is that it's generally terrible for more than one person on a team to take PB. An entire team taking it will just get wrecked, assuming the skill levels and champion picks are equal. We can take it skill by skill, if we need.

Health Regen is practically worthless on Dominion. You aren't going to be away from the action long enough to make it truly significant. You also don't need to hang around lanes for constant amounts of time in order to farm effectively.

The movespeed is nice but it's only for 2 seconds, it's not going to get you to a point that much faster.

15 percent capture rate can be nice but how practical is it, really? Capturing a point takes 8 seconds, I think. With PB that'll take about 6.8 seconds. How many situations are going to be significantly impacted by one and a half seconds? The main difference would be getting that neutralization as opposed to not, so you can battle (or run) without getting shot by a turret. But if you have PB, you're probably not fighting.

Also factor in you capture/neutralize about 10 points (20 total, or whatever) in a well-played game and that's being extremely generous. This saves you a total of about 50 seconds. And how often are you taking points while either contested or under some kind of duress? Most captures are either re-captures or are uncontested after a battle. Also how many captures do/can you get before you even get the item?

Is what I just described worth 1600 gold? On every champion? If you still think so, then go ahead and build it as much as you want. But also factor in that it pretty much has to be your first item, and it's practically worthless for any kind of fighting ever.

 

[Virgilijus]

Turns out it is a double lift smurf.

Maybe you played a game with him as he was leveling it up and he added you because you did all right.

That or it was Gator40 all along.

 

[DarkDragoon]

Of all the things in my post your could debate, you pick that?

I wonder if Priscilla's could be worth it on assassins. If their job is to get in and kill one guy really fast, it could be worth it to make sure you get the point afterwards. My only concern would be finding a point that you can easily take.

For what it is worth when I usually play Akali on domionion, I build PB early.

But I usually just play Jarvan or Morgana.
-DD

 

[DUB]

Priscilla's is OP on Ramnus. Revive+Ghost+Priscillas and a Phantom Dancer. He moves so fast his icon glitches on the mini-map and just jumps around.

 

[PhantomX]

That or it was Gator40 all along.

Not even M. Night Shyamalan could write a twist like that.

 

[jpak]

that account was hugo or ego's (w/e the kennen's player name is)

 

[adumbrodeus]

how exactly does annie mid against morgana? Just tried it and kept getting brutally outzoned.

 

[Wave⁂]

how exactly does annie mid against morgana? Just tried it and kept getting brutally outzoned.

You switch with your AD carry

 

[adumbrodeus]

Makes sense, anyone else i should be doing that for. I get the feeling casseopia might for example, cause she has powerful zoning tools too, but she doesn't have the shield.

 

[Wave⁂]

If you are good enough at dodging Cass's skillshot and / or if she is bad enough at landing her skillshots, you shouldn't have a problem. Otherwise, it's a judgment call. You might get more farm bot lane, but you'll be a lower level.

 

[JTB]

If you see morgana, you pick someone that can push just as well as her, like karthus or cass.

Or just have your ap go top and go gp mid and enjoy free win

 

[adumbrodeus]

If you are good enough at dodging Cass's skillshot and / or if she is bad enough at landing her skillshots, you shouldn't have a problem. Otherwise, it's a judgment call. You might get more farm bot lane, but you'll be a lower level.

TBH more concerned about her w/her w while she's skillshotting keeping me away from creeos so i cant farm.

 

[DarkDragoon]

TBH more concerned about her w/her w while she's skillshotting keeping me away from creeos so i cant farm.

If it is a bad morg, fake her out and get her to use it early, wait 8 seconds for it to wear off, then punish her in the 12 seconds left before it comes back off CD.

-DD

 

[john!]

galio kinda poops on morg

 

[DarkDragoon]

galio kinda poops on morg

Since I've been playing pretty much only Galio and Cho this week, I have to say that Galio poops on a LOT of people.
Is there some sort of glaring weakness about him that I'm missing that keeps him so underused?
-DD