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You're joking right?

Mpen / arpen as stats can push enemies into negative armor / mr and give you bonus damage.

Not saying your rune choice is wrong, but creeps used to have negative mr which was what allowed udyr to kill them with phoenix so quickly.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think only resistance reduction can push someone below 0 resist (like Amumu's passive, Fiddle's passive, and Abyssal). Otherwise you're just penetrating 0, which amounts to 0.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think only resistance reduction can push someone below 0 resist (like Amumu's passive, Fiddle's passive, and Abyssal). Otherwise you're just penetrating 0, which amounts to 0.
Derp, you're right, now that I think about it.
 

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Ya only reduction puts it into the negative..
Yes ashe is the best carry, corki followed closely. Sivir is ok now because of her boomerrang nerf she can't just Q a wave then sit back and get all the creeps, Her late game is still the strongest probably but it's really really late game. After ashe/corki there is no super strong AD ranged carry.
 

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Used to play kogmaw for epic late game hybrid carry.
I don't play him much anymore though.

Jpak what's your alistar build for tank. Dan builds ap allistar but I want a good tanky support build. Runes? Masteries?
 

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re:jpak's comment about leblanc... I feel like she's SO scary during the early game. She can burst you so hard and so fast early and then when team fighting starts she's just not useful anymore if your team is coordinated at all. Like last night we had that LB that was wrecking middle but as soon as the laning phase was over, she just got wrecked. I think if you can just hang on through her early harass and still get some farm, you can make her a liability later.
 

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@Evanms, boots + 3 pots -> if farming is going well i get philostone if not i skip it -> merc -> catalyst/banshee -> reverie(if i got stone) -> sheen

Banshee and merc are pretty important on him and you want boots early so you can get the ganks. Sheen is pretty important too to increase your damage output. I go 0/9/21, 3 in the hp regen for defensive tree. 21 in utility because he needs his summoners up to be effective, really dependent on it. I go HP quints, mana regen seals/glyphs, armor marks. These are what runes I would use, but when im on MasterAuru its mpen quints/marks, mregen seals/glyphs, 0/6/21 I heard a lot of people max Q, but I just max heal with one level of Q and W because I am there to support and not deal damage :\. Get a level of Q and W first then max heal, get heal earlier if you are getting harassed hard. Roam a lot, ward a lot, gank the lane travis is in because the opponent is always superconfident/overextended in it ;)

@Odin, yes she is only strong early game and a little bit of midgame then she's not much of a problem.
 

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I play Kass like this now:

0/9/21
Flash/Teleport
MPen/Armor/MRes/HPp5
D-shield -> boots -> Catalyst -> Deathcap -> Blue Elixir Pump -> Archangels + Banshee's + Void Staff

If a lane is hard, just sit there and fight them until you're low, then B and stock up on potions, then TP back. Abuse the early CD to get ahead, you probably won't need it for the next 3 minutes if you use it at 3:00 anyway.

Flat HP/5 Quints are the new OP defensive quints for laning, keep it on the down low guys.
 

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Would you wear Flat HP/5 Quints on an AD carry over Armor Pen?
I dunno, I suck with ranged carries. On Melee Carries... hmmm, I guess I would on the tankier ones like Irelia or Xin, but I still run ArPen on Pantheon because my build basically hinges on my flat Armor Reduction and Armor Penetration ****** squishies in no time.
 

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Fro how bout those last games last night? Legendary kat and ww! Too bad we finished godlike.

What champ should I pick up next? I was thinking urgot or ezreal. Urgot seems so dominant. I played ez on my smurf and he was fun. Seems like he takes a lot of practice.
 

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You guys should specialize in a specific role and when you get really good at that role explore more options. You should do this so you can have better team comps and don't end up with games where you have double smite, double cv, or three tanks... There's AP Carry, AD Carry, Support, Tank, and Jungler. This way if you get organized now, may be you can play some arranged 5s down the road
 

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Being diverse in your ability to play different roles is mostly valuable in solo queue.

Being diverse in your ability to play different characters in a specific role is mostly valuable in arranged teams.

At least in my experience.

The way my team runs it is that we pretty much always have the same 2 guys bot, the same guy mid, the same guy top and the same guy in the jungle, but we're all fairly diverse in which characters we can play for the role we play so that we can play the draft.
 

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Yea idk if you notice this or not but I pretty much only play the tank when we arrange cause that's what I'm most comfortable with. I think I really understand saving my cc for stopping carries and stuff. I'm just talking about for general fun.

But for sure when ever we q together I allways play the jungler or the tank. Rammus, shen, and learning ww. I guess I'll pick up allistar then because he fits my play style. Thanks jpak.
 

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I like to play Tank/Off-tank, anti-carry, support, and initiator generally. I jungle well with Malph, and that's about it atm, haha. I can play Corki well as well but I'm generally glad to let someone else fill that role.

Only role I can't really play well is AP carry, but that's also the role I've played the least... and jungle with anyone that is not Malphite.
 

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Well you guys should organize it before you enter queue FOR MORE VICTORIES YAH!
 

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Being diverse in your ability to play different roles is mostly valuable in solo queue.

Being diverse in your ability to play different characters in a specific role is mostly valuable in arranged teams.

At least in my experience.
I've always felt it was the opposite, well, for lower ELOs I guess (<1800). Playing different roles doesn't help in solo if you know you can play a carry (choose for multi hero) and destroy them. And for arranged being able to adjust roles seems handy.
 

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haha, yea I guess it's really elo dependent. Thinking back on it, I really just played OP champs and Carries at lower elos, but in the 1700+ range, being able to play support/tank when you're 5th pick is absolutely essential.

for arranged though, as long as everyone is good at their role with 3 or 4 different characters, it's best to be able to keep people on their role IMO. We specifically got demolished in our last NESL game because we let Rock Solid's draft strategy rotate us around and our bot lane wasn't used to playing together and our jungler hadn't been jungling all day, so I still think we would've done much better to just suck it up and roll with them banning Ashe and sniping Soraka from us.
 

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elo doesn't have a formula, it's dependent on who you've played, etc.

pre-season 1 I believe I was capped at 2400 or very close at one point. I remember when we found the way to see it in the log file I was between 2200 and 2300 and it was after a rough losing streak.

then season 1 hit and I relentlessly ****ed around in normal and tanked it, lol.
 

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Too many factors affect your solo queue ELO. You lose less when you're not in a team and you get matched against one, you gain less when you're againsta non-premade if you're in a premade, widely disparate ELOs in the match if people queue together, etc.
 

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Playing Twisted Fate is the most depressing thing I have ever done in this game........I miss gold cards constantly, i lose my lane to everyone, my ganks have succeeded maybe twice in god knows how many times of trying....he's just one huge ball of depression that reminds me how much i suck every time i try to pick a card...
 
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