Grabbing Ban?

[Sneakyxhandz]

Hey does anyone know the answer to this question? My friend thinks IC's continuous back throw is considered stalling and therefore an illegal move in a tournament he's going to help host. I'm pretty sure it's not but he's banning it if there's no proof. So is it illegal?

 

[cutter]

It's only stalling if you continue to infinite your opponent with no intention at all of stopping.

Otherwise it's fair game.

 

[Cold Fusion]

Accourding to the SBR, it is only stalling if it goes past 300%.

 

[meepxzero]

its inhumanly impossible to infinite pass 250%.

Just try it and ull see.

 

[Cold Fusion]

its inhumanly impossible to infinite pass 250%.

Just try it and ull see.

Do you mean all variations of the infinite or only some?

 

[Funen1]

The timing for the B-throw CG becomes really tight really fast, especially against the lighter characters that one would preferably use this CG and its variations on. At higher damage (i.e. past 100%) it just becomes extremely frame-specific, to the point where continuing the chain with the intention of stalling becomes nearly impossible to perform consistently, if not at all, in a professional setting.

Seriously, just tell the host the SBR's definition of a stalling-chaingrab. It's unlikely anyone would even get close to the limit with this type of CG.

 

[Sorto]

Its not actually impossible to pass 250%, just very hard. I was trying to make a video of me doing a 0-999% chaingrab and got up to around 400% before I messed up.
*But to your original post, the ICs infinite chaingrab is a completely legal tactic. Only using it to stall is banned. It is only considered stalling if you cause your opponent to go beyond 300% damage by using it. But any IC player can tell you, that going beyond 140% on anyone is overkill, and in most cases going past 100% is overkill.

 

[LanceStern]

"Completely legal?"

Hm...

 

[Coney]

The title of this thread is hilarious.

We've banned IDC.
We've banned planking and stalling.
We're almost considering thinking about maybe perhaps banning MK.

And now we just ban grabs.

Wait until the SF community hears about this.

 

[meepxzero]

haha anyone remember the old golden rule in street fighter when throwing was looked down upon unless u were zangief XD?

wow times have changed.

 

[bobson]

We've banned IDC.
We've banned planking and stalling.

Yeah, think of the metagame we're sacrificing with those bans! How can we be such scrubs?

 

[Kain6th]

Due to how difficult it can be to pull that off in the heat of a battle I say keep it unbanned.

 

[yummynbeefy]

The timing for the B-throw CG becomes really tight really fast, especially against the lighter characters that one would preferably use this CG and its variations on. At higher damage (i.e. past 100%) it just becomes extremely frame-specific, to the point where continuing the chain with the intention of stalling becomes nearly impossible to perform consistently, if not at all, in a professional setting.

Seriously, just tell the host the SBR's definition of a stalling-chaingrab. It's unlikely anyone would even get close to the limit with this type of CG.

so true i usually dont use it past 110 or so unless its someone really heavy like bowser or snake

 

[Darknid]

It deserves a ban anyway. Infinites are completely unfair. "Don't get grabbed" <-- this is horrible advice. Unless you're playing Wario, Jiggz, DK or MK the ICs are probably going to grab you. They allowed a player to beat m2k himself by *******izing the game and turning it into a grab/don't get grabbed game. ICs mains chose their character solely on their ability to 0-death people. Also, I practiced the CG for 2 hours to use ICs vs D3 and I could do it with my eyes closed. Bull****, Mr. Hand Man.

 

[.AC.]

It deserves a ban anyway. Infinites are completely unfair. "Don't get grabbed" <-- this is horrible advice. Unless you're playing Wario, Jiggz, DK or MK the ICs are probably going to grab you. They allowed a player to beat m2k himself by *******izing the game and turning it into a grab/don't get grabbed game. ICs mains chose their character solely on their ability to 0-death people. Also, I practiced the CG for 2 hours to use ICs vs D3 and I could do it with my eyes closed. Bull****, Mr. Hand Man.

or you could stop whining,find a way around it instead,practice not getting grabbed,practice using a character who has an easy time not getting grabbed,besides the characters you listed there is also snake,mgaw,kirby,rob,marth and others.you can also stop saying asuming things,such as the reason why people chose their mains and the fact that just because you think you can chaingrab a char with 2 hours of practice,you can cg the other 38 chars who have different timings.ics have one,if not,the smallest grab range in the game.

btw the dont gey grabbed advice is amazing.

 

[Area_6]

But don't forget to add Lain did beat M2k.
Then M2k Found a way around it and 3-0'ed him ic's arent that bad use your head

 

[Reinhart_x]

IC dittos...Anther does it to Lain and he can beat him. Can't get cg'd unless you're SoPo. *in best Arnold voice* STOP WHINING!

 

[Prawn]

It deserves a ban anyway. Infinites are completely unfair. "Don't get grabbed" <-- this is horrible advice. Unless you're playing Wario, Jiggz, DK or MK the ICs are probably going to grab you. They allowed a player to beat m2k himself by *******izing the game and turning it into a grab/don't get grabbed game. ICs mains chose their character solely on their ability to 0-death people. Also, I practiced the CG for 2 hours to use ICs vs D3 and I could do it with my eyes closed. Bull****, Mr. Hand Man.

lolumad?

by the way, chaingrabbing smaller characters(and even heavyweights) takes a lot more practice and some people still mess it up(Lain did against M2K if I remember correctly). In short, get over it.

 

[Smasher89]

This thread should be locked, with the endquote
"
Don't get Grabbed
"

 

[Prawn]

This thread should be locked, with the endquote
"
Don't get Grabbed
"

This

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