Goals of the Smashlab and Specific Projects. Wip

[Indigo Jeans]

Well I understand; that's why I said the project. I love Brawl+. But I have heard often that the actual backroom is terrible. But then again, many BRooms are said to be awful.

 

[adumbrodeus]

I tried to call you. Do you have a new number. I got static and fail.

Nope, you tried last night?

I was out bar/club hopping and a lot of them (especially the basement ones) have really bad reception.


Also, Veril you're taking pierce as an apprentice and not me? I'm hurt.

 

[KayLo!]

I managed to get throw data for every character in B+, across several sets without the fixed z-button. No Johns... but I wish I had this code as much or moreso than just about anyone. I'm sorry I can't make Yeroc not be completely indisposed by his girlfriend ("sarcasm on the internet"), and I can't code this myself.

It's half a time thing, half an annoyance thing.

I'm still gonna work on stuff, but like I said..... with both those codes, I could see myself getting a lot more done. The "*cough*" was because I've been hearing about solutions for the Z-button, but none of them seem to pan out...... all the false hope makes me sadface.

 

[The Cape]

I am talking to PK about it right now actually. What is a good button?

I was thinking D pad something or other.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

umm... what about having taunts do nothing and mapping taunts to the z-button?

 

[KayLo!]

D-pad's good since nobody uses it for anything.

 

[The Cape]

Debug Pause
80000000 805B8A08
0402E5AC 8819000B
4A000000 804DE470
38000000 EFFF1000
86410000 00000001
E2000001 00000000
4A000000 805B8A08
3A000002 00FF0000
12000002 00000001
E2000001 00000000
4A000000 804DE470
38000000 FFEF0010
4A000000 805B8A08
3A000002 FF000000
12000002 00000100
E2000002 00000000


0000 - No Button
0001 - D-Pad Left
0002 - D-Pad Right
0004 - D-Pad Down
0008 - D-Pad Up
0010 - Z
0020 - R
0040 - L
0100 - A
0200 - B
0400 - X
0800 - Y
1000 - Start/Pause

Replace the red with one of the above.

Thanks PK

(Untested, someone please test and update me)

 

[KayLo!]

Sweet, I'mma test this after I finish eating if no one else has.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Cape I love you so much right now, mad homo

 

[The Cape]

Cape I love you so much right now, mad homo

But if it doesnt work?


My suggestion is to actually map it to one of the jump buttons possibly? And then using the unrestricted control editing you can make that jump do something else thats quick.

 

[adumbrodeus]

*narrows eyes*


*hands paper to my right-hand ninja*



I heard an accident might befall you, you had better be careful.





Seriously though, if you can get it to work, that would be amazing, but if you can't, we're not worse off atm.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I tried D-pad down and it didn't work.

 

[KayLo!]

Wait I'm confuuuused.

So this doesn't fix the glitch, it just changes the frame advance code to a different button? Won't the same problem happen (just on a different button)?

 

[The Cape]

What glitch may that be? I thought the whole problem was just that it was on an attack button.

And Adumbrodeus you will need more than a Ninja to take out someone like me with my fine Army training.

I tried D-pad down and it didn't work.

Did start still freeze the thing though?

 

[rPSIvysaur]

umm... with unrestricted control mapping, couldn't we just map taunt to z-button and have a code that disables taunts?

 

[KayLo!]

What glitch may that be? I thought the whole problem was just that it was on an attack button.

The glitch is that sometimes when you frame advance, it inputs a grab (or whatever you map the Z button to be) instead of only frame advancing. So if you're trying to input a move to be tested, you get a grab instead -- or airdodge if you're in the air.

Restarting the match usually fixes it for me, but sometimes I have to restart the whole game. =\ And it happens randomly.

 

[adumbrodeus]

And Adumbrodeus you will need more than a Ninja to take out someone like me with my fine Army training.

But it's one ninja, rule of reverse ninjutsu, multiple ninjas are mooks, a single ninja is ridiculously powerful.


Also, assuming this code works, I'll have you kidnapped at some point to teach me, I'm a military buff and love learning new methods of fighting (West Point applicant back in the day actually).

 

[The Cape]

Action mod:

4A000000 8077F780
D2000000 00000004
2C030000 41820010
2C1C010C 40820008
3B800000 60000000
939E0038 00000000

This makes taunts into standing. So map taunt to Z and use this.


Unrestricted Control Editing [spunit262]
211973CC 7CC6F82E
051973CC 38C20060
05197468 38620060
05197574 38820060
05197680 38E20060
051976B4 38620060
051978CC 38E20060
065A9380 0000000A
00010203 04050A0B
0C0D0000 00000000
E0000000 80008000

Button Modifier
041E6CD8 4BE1C128
041E6D1C 4BE1C114
06002E00 00000068
9421FF80 BC410008
7CE4402E 7CE738F8
7CE73039 3864FFC0
7CE3412E 7CC4412E
B8410008 38210080
60000000 481E3EB0
9421FF80 BC410008
7C03202E 3DC01000
7DCE70F8 7C007039
740E0408 3DE00408
7C0E7800 40820008
64001000 B8410008
38210080 481E3EBC

Debug Pause
80000000 805B8A08
0402E5AC 8819000B
4A000000 804DE470
38000000 EFFF1000
86410000 00000001
E2000001 00000000
4A000000 805B8A08
3A000002 00FF0000
12000002 00000001
E2000001 00000000
4A000000 804DE470
38000000 FFEF0010
4A000000 805B8A08
3A000002 FF000000
12000002 00000100
E2000002 00000000


Make a tag like FMEAD or something to that effect and map Z to be taunts using the above codes. Then the action mod makes the taunt do nothing and the new action overrides it.

 

[KayLo!]

Cape, you da bess.

 

[The Cape]

We need to put together all the proper codes for frame testing and host a .gct file. That way people can just grab the file and go and not worry about it.

I'll talk to Veril and we can put something together.

 

[Veril]

Despite not actually being gay for Cape, this makes me a little gay for Cape.

Don't use down-taunt, it activates visible hitbubbles and that can get annoying fast.

 

[The Cape]

Despite not actually being gay for Cape...

You lie so hard. You lie so hard and you know it.

And answer your phone once in awhile, we have business to discuss.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Z freezes the game.

 

[The Cape]

In what way and how?

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I mapped up taunt to the z-button (I don't have hitbubbles on BTW). If you press Z normally, it freezes in the match when you have the tag on.

 

[The Cape]

Conditional Action Modifier [The Paprika Killer, Almas]
C277F780 0000000E
2C030000 41820060
3C008180 80BF0008
80A5FFFC 7C050000
4080004C 80A50030
80DE0038 38E2FE00
85070008 7D09C671
41820034 2C09FFFF
41A2000C 7C092800
4082FFE8 5509043E
7C093000 4082FFDC
81070004 5509843E
7C09E000 4082FFCC
551C043E 60000000
939E0038 00000000

Conditional modifier data
065A9128 00000010
FF000000 010C0000
FF000000 010D0000


Replace the Action Mod with these two and try again.


The CAM code works like this:
WW00XXXX YYYYZZZZ

WW = Char ID (FF = all)
XXXX = Previous action
YYYY = Current action
ZZZZ = Change to action

I made it so that if you are standing and you taunt it will keep you standing. If we find any other actions that lead to an issue with this (cant think of any) then I can easily add them in.

 

[The Cape]

Does it work?

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Just tested it. I still did up-taunt when I was on the ground.

 

[The Cape]

Conditional modifier data
065A9128 00000010
FF000000 010C0000
FF000000 010D0000

Maybe this?

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Still does U-taunt.

 

[The Cape]

I'll keep working on it. We'll find something.

Can you make Z nothing?

 

[KayLo!]

Not with the unrestricted button mapping code, no. Every button has to do something. =\

 

[The Cape]

Ok, I found a solution:

Unrestricted Control Editing [spunit262]
211973CC 7CC6F82E
051973CC 38C20060
05197468 38620060
05197574 38820060
05197680 38E20060
051976B4 38620060
051978CC 38E20060
065A9380 0000000A
00010203 04050A0B
0C0D0000 00000000
E0000000 80008000

Button Modifier
041E6CD8 4BE1C128
041E6D1C 4BE1C114
06002E00 00000068
9421FF80 BC410008
7CE4402E 7CE738F8
7CE73039 3864FFC0
7CE3412E 7CC4412E
B8410008 38210080
60000000 481E3EB0
9421FF80 BC410008
7C03202E 3DC01000
7DCE70F8 7C007039
740E0408 3DE00408
7C0E7800 40820008
64001000 B8410008
38210080 481E3EBC

Debug Pause
80000000 805B8A08
0402E5AC 8819000B
4A000000 804DE470
38000000 EFFF1000
86410000 00000001
E2000001 00000000
4A000000 805B8A08
3A000002 00FF0000
12000002 00000001
E2000001 00000000
4A000000 804DE470
38000000 FFEF0010
4A000000 805B8A08
3A000002 FF000000
12000002 00000100
E2000002 00000000

Using these three codes you change Z to side taunt. All attacks as well as jump and sheild will outprioritize the taunt. Therefore you can input anything you want and it will work. This allows you to test everything except crouch, idle animations, and run starts. So basically it works where the other version does not. If you need to test those things I am sure we can figure something else out.

It makes complete sense, the game has a "priority" list of what takes presidence in case moves are pressed at the same time. Taunts being the lowest just works.

Also: Thanks PSI for you know, actually testing this thing properly and all ;-p

 

[KayLo!]

#kidscheer

Okay, NOW you're the best. =D

 

[The Cape]

Its so ironic that the solution was already in front of us and we just needed someone not lazy to actually test the theory V.V

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I've already been using that >.<

 

[The Cape]

You just checked frame advancing, you didnt check attacks at all did you?

All the attacks will override the taunt. I just checked it myself. You just cant test movements from a standing position (crouches, run start, or whatever).

Jump
Sheild
Attack
Special Attack
Grab

All out prioritize taunts in terms of button inputs.

 

[Isatis]

Well, if the Great Veril god of the Frames so wishes it, I could do B+ stuff too. I have like three micro SDs onto which I could save various codesets. :V

Why do you need three micro SD's for different codesets?

Use Riivolution to swap between them

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Well, I normally use what you described.
I know that they outprioritize in terms of inputs.

 

[The Cape]

I'll still work with PK on changing the button that inputs it, but for now we can just roll with this and see what happens.

The other option is that you can go into every U taunt in the game in the .pac files and put a change action to standing.

Change Action = 0: Requirement = On Ground.

I sure as **** am not doing that though, but anyone that wants a perfect system is more than welcome to :-p