Glyph Muscles Proudly Presents: Mario Party 2 Mafia: Game OVER!

[#HBC | Laundry]

How in blue blazes is J's reaction to Ryker's shot townie? It came off as typical cheekie "hi I'm J and I'm better than you."

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Mother-trucker.

I'm just a VT. My reads are pretty much exactly the same as before. I want July dead the mostest. I freaking loved Circus' flip to absolute pieces. This will probably help my activity in other games but Ryker's an idiot for hitting town twice in one day and should seriously be dealt with in some way.

With a MentosTown flip, I want July gone more more more. I would also have joined a WL wagon. Raziek was another slot I felt was leaning scummy. Ran/Marshy are my strongest town reads. Swords/KevinM lie in the nulls. With LDR's blantant disregard for town intent, deffo leaning indy>vig at this stage and would consider lynching him too.

If I'm not dead awesome and July is getting my vote.

Vote: July

If not, sorry guys, not much I can do.

Okay, it's not still typical cheeky J but how is this town?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

This is suppose to be the question "@Ryker: WL sheeping = not a bad thing?" btw.

Prove he's sheeping. I'm right. How is backing my conclusion wrong?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

How in blue blazes is J's reaction to Ryker's shot townie? It came off as typical cheekie "hi I'm J and I'm better than you."

Funny, but I had a conversation with Swiss not too long ago. He said Swiss gives himself away as scum for having a smug attitude.

The more you know.

 

[ranmaru]

Raz I have been focusing on other games at the moment, I'll get in to this tonite.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

The more I know, huh

 

[#HBC | marshy]

@ raziek

if kevin and i are both town this game can you post a video of you literally eating a hat?

 

[Raziek]

Sure, marshy.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

This is suppose to be the question "@Ryker: WL sheeping = not a bad thing?" btw.

I'll add onto this:

Look at the cast and tell me that it wouldn't suffer from too many chiefs, not enough indians syndrome. Before I rejoined it was Ryker vs. marshy/J with KevMo sitting in the background laughing, Ran going gungho over July and then you just kinda being here and throwing your two cents in while following J.

That's chaotic. By throwing in my lot with Ryker, the odds get equalized and **** starts to get done--without me, scumJ would still be here manipulating you lot (does no one notice how he's flat vanished since I've come back despite posting in other games?). The only man capable of overpowering him had no backing at all because he shot the Inno Child within the first twenty posts of the game and people felt he should be ignored.

Hell, scum were saying he should be ignored. After that bull**** shot, scum's immediate mindset was probably along the lines of "DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO INVALIDATE RYKER." Look at what J's been doing regarding that slot. Look at what marshy's doing. KevMo's doing. Some people have said they don't like what LDR did to start the game off but none of them should've turned it around to "HEY LET'S JUST IGNORE RYKER." Calling for his lynch was an obvious trap--if they did that, they'd get gunned down as fast as Mentos did. They're smart enough to be aware of the consequences of that action. So, rather than just simply removing him, they probably gambled on him having no shots left and just put him at arm's reach. He's not a threat if no one listens to him right? So they sat there and undermined him the whole game or tried to at any rate.

I said it earlier. With Ryker's shot, scum wanted to be in a position where they could subtly push town to devour each other. They did that within the first posts of the game--marshy was barely a presence and chose to ignore the presence. J flat-out said he wasn't going to be a force until something "caught his eye." KevMo has been here but has said nothing but broken sentences on whatever's asked until Ryker slammed him against a wall and forced him to play. Raz has not been here at all. You've been active and have made good points but rather than start a wagon yourself, you let someone else take the spotlight and jumped on once the push was made despite having similar thoughts. You guys knew Ryker was tailspinning and yet you let him do it. Once that happened, you simply decided to take the game over. July was dead to you by that point. Ran was in your hands because he wanted July dead just as much. The only man capable of overrunning scum was cast aside by his own actions. You thought this game was yours.

Part of me feels like I shouldn't act on this but the mentality here--the obvious play scum are making here--is just too gogdamn overt to ignore it. It's somewhat irrelevant anyway--J's scumminess speaks for itself as well as the MacMan shot speaks for marshy/KevMo's scumminess. But the fact that the only player that was actually confirmed town was being flat-ignored by the other two people in a position to lead town and both were rallying for Ryker to be ignored is what got me into "sheeping" as you put it. I'm not sheeping. I'm winning the gogdamn game by helping the only one with a sense of what's really going on overthrow the scum in charge.

tl;dr I'm in your minds scum. You should've killed me faster.

 

[ranmaru]

Alright, I'm deciding to go One of Marshy/J ToDay.

Washed do you think it's possible Swords is scum too? Because I can see that. Like... Swords push on J was weird. I just thought Swords may have been scum with July because of Swords weird push on J... but your recent post convinced me...

I was having a hard time deciding, but **** it. Let's go Marshy J ToDay.

 

[ranmaru]

Also I don't get Kevin's "Ran doesn't have reads" Point, he'll have to go further into that

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Alright, I'm deciding to go One of Marshy/J ToDay.

Washed do you think it's possible Swords is scum too? Because I can see that. Like... Swords push on J was weird. I just thought Swords may have been scum with July because of Swords weird push on J... but your recent post convinced me...

I was having a hard time deciding, but **** it. Let's go Marshy J ToDay.

Like I said, I'd take Swordy to LyLo but I'd lynch him there. I think he's town but he's got these nuances about him that keep making me doubt him every now and then and he fits too well onto a scumteam with J and one of marshy/KevMo. The only reason I'd lynch Raz first is that he's a complete and total ****ing wild card while Swords is as good as connected by the paper trail.

Ryker are you down for marshy? KevMo's as good as bagged but marshy will play the game without being arsed to do so.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I will go Marshy. I'm confident that they are both scum.

Do not let Kevin slip through the cracks. This goes for all of you.

If we have further investigatives, stick them on him. Do not count on their being further investigatives. This means if KevMo claims tracker, you should certainly not let him off the hook.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I damn well got this, man. We're not losing here.

 

[ranmaru]

Alright, let's go then:

Vote: Marshy

 

[ranmaru]

Also, Raz's reads are a bit disgusting.

Ryker/WL, is this expected of him? What's your thoughts on Raz's input?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

vote: marshy

I dunno, Raz seems to be a player to have a bad read here or there. And he hasn't made much in the way of input. Like I said, complete wild card. He goes after KevMo though.

Lynch progression, regardless of who's alive, should be as follows:

marshy>J>KevMo>Raz>Swordy. Do not let Raz into LyLo. We're as good as lost if both he and Swordy make it there.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

^ shouldve been lynched d1

guys im such a bad person to be ****ed outta hear right now

 

[Ramen King]

Lunar Disco Redheads (Glyph/Ryker hydra)- (0)
Ranmaru- (0)
July- (1) Sworddancer.
Sworddancer.- (0)
Raziek- (0)
Marshy- (2) Ranmaru, WashedLaundry
KevinM- (1) Lunar Disco Redheads
J- (1) July
WashedLaundry- (2) Marshy, J

Not voting- (2) KevinM, Raziek

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch! Lynch deadline is set for 5/24 at 11:59 PM EST!

 

[July]

You're submissive. You basically just stated your lynch pick, Ryker was like "No," and you we're just like "ok." Get OUT of the kitchen July.

I learned from Shining Force II there are certain points where it's best to shut up and follow Ryker because he's found something, and this is one of those times. And if I can't get J lynched toDay, then one of his likely scummates is good enough.

Vote: Marshy

 

[Lunar Disco Redheads]

For the second time in recent memory, this account has had its password reset. We're back on it to stay this time. Again, sorry about the dual accounting.

 

[Lunar Disco Redheads]

Alright, I'm deciding to go One of Marshy/J ToDay.

Washed do you think it's possible Swords is scum too? Because I can see that. Like... Swords push on J was weird. I just thought Swords may have been scum with July because of Swords weird push on J... but your recent post convinced me...

I was having a hard time deciding, but **** it. Let's go Marshy J ToDay.

Swords isn't cleared, but he's not in need of immediate execution by any stretch. You and WL are my strong town reads followed by July. Swords is there, but not even close to on the same level. Marshy/Kevin/J need to go. Then Raz. After that, I would almost certainly take Swords over July because the scum team balled too damn hard going after her lynch.

Tl;Dr

Lynch Sword after the main four, but I don't think the game has much of a chance of still going on at that point.

 

[Lunar Disco Redheads]

Also, Raz's reads are a bit disgusting.

Ryker/WL, is this expected of him? What's your thoughts on Raz's input?

I don't like Raz. His activity level is expected given the fact that I know he's spending time on other things. He signed up for this game before he had a GF. His content is gross, but in short supply and filtered through a catch-up lens.

He definitely rounds out my lynch pool. Don't let him slide after the big three.

 

[Lunar Disco Redheads]

marshy>J>KevMo>Raz>Swordy. Do not let Raz into LyLo. We're as good as lost if both he and Swordy make it there.

I completely support that lynch order and would stake the game on it.

Raz and Swords making it to LyLo would be a major pain in the ***.

 

[Lunar Disco Redheads]

^ shouldve been lynched d1

guys im such a bad person to be ****ed outta hear right now

Sure, should've lynched him Day 1. Didn't happen.

You're at L-2 with me reserving a vote that I can and will place. Looking at this, what have you to say?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

One of Kevin/Marshy is scum, I feel. Leaning towards Kevin.

how come?

you go ahead and do that ryker

 

[#HBC | marshy]

I learned from Shining Force II there are certain points where it's best to shut up and follow Ryker because he's found something, and this is one of those times. And if I can't get J lynched toDay, then one of his likely scummates is good enough.

this is not long after stating that you liked me as protown over kevin

you have no backbone and are a pathetic plebe

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

And you're scum and should burn for it. Smokey the Bear always said that only I could prevent forest fires but he ain't said a lick about dumpster fires.

DUMPSTER FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES <3333

 

[#HBC | marshy]

And you're scum and should burn for it.

lets bet your mother on this

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

You wouldn't want my mother, trust me.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

hmmm

J I got your message. Are you really that insecure about your reads this game?

J I honestly actually WANT to trust you this game but you're making it difficult for me.

I'm looking at your questions right now. Wrt Ryker, he is much more likely "bad town" than indie. Even though this is a private set up, the idea of two indies along with a mafia fraction seems unlikely and quite frankly paranoid to me.

Raz lynch would be perfectly fine. If he's town, then scum sure as hell isn't going to take him out, and I don't think we really have any town roles to find out anymore. I think others are townie than him so from PoE he's scum to me.

I wouldn't lynch EITHER of Marshy/Ryker, so I refuse to answer that question. What do you hope to gain wrt reading me from me answering that question?

Ran is still town. Why do you ask this question? Do you really have any doubts about him?

KevinM I read as "lazy town" like Ran.

I like the honesty of your second paragraph. However he reinforces the idea that you've haven't really decided upon a course of action, which worries me.

Marshy what is your read on J?

Sticking with July btw. Ran why is it that you dislike Marshy?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Also J another question, why did you decide to use the agent role thing to message me those questions? Why not just ask them in thread?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Ok. I have read everything for toDay.

LDR definitely Town.
Swords Town.

Laundry PROBABLY Town, this is pretty meta-based for me, especially after watching scumLaundry in Ryker mafia.

July could go either way, it really bugs me that she essentially disappeared after the pressure on her broke.

I don't like Ran. He was here and asking questions, and then he became noticeably absent once KevMo/Marshy heated up.

J is definitely scum.

One of Kevin/Marshy is scum, I feel. Leaning towards Kevin.

Lynch Pool for ToDay: Kevin and Marshy. One of them needs to die today. There's a scum between these two or I'll eat my hat.

Following finding the scum between those 2, J dies, then Ran, in my opinion.

If people want elaboration, ask, and I'll do the best I can to make up for my near-total absence.

Cookie-cutter reads and Ran read is gross and misinformed.

I'll add onto this:

Look at the cast and tell me that it wouldn't suffer from too many chiefs, not enough indians syndrome. Before I rejoined it was Ryker vs. marshy/J with KevMo sitting in the background laughing, Ran going gungho over July and then you just kinda being here and throwing your two cents in while following J.

That's chaotic. By throwing in my lot with Ryker, the odds get equalized and **** starts to get done--without me, scumJ would still be here manipulating you lot (does no one notice how he's flat vanished since I've come back despite posting in other games?). The only man capable of overpowering him had no backing at all because he shot the Inno Child within the first twenty posts of the game and people felt he should be ignored.

Hell, scum were saying he should be ignored. After that bull**** shot, scum's immediate mindset was probably along the lines of "DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO INVALIDATE RYKER." Look at what J's been doing regarding that slot. Look at what marshy's doing. KevMo's doing. Some people have said they don't like what LDR did to start the game off but none of them should've turned it around to "HEY LET'S JUST IGNORE RYKER." Calling for his lynch was an obvious trap--if they did that, they'd get gunned down as fast as Mentos did. They're smart enough to be aware of the consequences of that action. So, rather than just simply removing him, they probably gambled on him having no shots left and just put him at arm's reach. He's not a threat if no one listens to him right? So they sat there and undermined him the whole game or tried to at any rate.

I said it earlier. With Ryker's shot, scum wanted to be in a position where they could subtly push town to devour each other. They did that within the first posts of the game--marshy was barely a presence and chose to ignore the presence. J flat-out said he wasn't going to be a force until something "caught his eye." KevMo has been here but has said nothing but broken sentences on whatever's asked until Ryker slammed him against a wall and forced him to play. Raz has not been here at all. You've been active and have made good points but rather than start a wagon yourself, you let someone else take the spotlight and jumped on once the push was made despite having similar thoughts. You guys knew Ryker was tailspinning and yet you let him do it. Once that happened, you simply decided to take the game over. July was dead to you by that point. Ran was in your hands because he wanted July dead just as much. The only man capable of overrunning scum was cast aside by his own actions. You thought this game was yours.

Part of me feels like I shouldn't act on this but the mentality here--the obvious play scum are making here--is just too gogdamn overt to ignore it. It's somewhat irrelevant anyway--J's scumminess speaks for itself as well as the MacMan shot speaks for marshy/KevMo's scumminess. But the fact that the only player that was actually confirmed town was being flat-ignored by the other two people in a position to lead town and both were rallying for Ryker to be ignored is what got me into "sheeping" as you put it. I'm not sheeping. I'm winning the gogdamn game by helping the only one with a sense of what's really going on overthrow the scum in charge.

tl;dr I'm in your minds scum. You should've killed me faster.

You seem to think that you have scum figured out but quite frankly I think you're giving people to much credit. I don't think that people ever really think in absolutes like you're suggesting scum is. I don't think people try to do think up "subtly plans for their own benefit," and I don't think any scum said in their qt "hey guys, lets subtly push town to devour themselves!" Words like "manipulate," which you suggest J is doing, sound like you're suggesting that scum has some"master plan."

Not to fear though, Mr. Clint EastLaundry see's through the bad guys "evil mastermind plot" that has everyone else "duked," but not Laundry ain't fooled. Oh no, you've caught the bad guys for sure!

All jokes aside, there is really two types of "manipulation" that I imagine scum will ever really go for. They are: One, playing to their own town meta to fool people, and two, laying low when town is on the wrong track. You seem to be suggesting the latter of the two, and if so, okay, maybe. However, if you are suggesting the latter of the two then please don't say stuff like "scum is subtly getting town to devour themselves;" it's melodramatic and it sounds paranoid.

Also if you are suggesting the latter of the two then I would argue that you're evidence is either faulty or not concrete enough. KevinM has been inactive but that could just be laziness (read: evidence is not concrete enough). Sure, J has said stuff like "I'm not going to post until something catches my eye" but so what? He HAS been one of the most active posters in the game until recently, so simply pointing out someone SAYING that they're going to be inactive doesn't actually mean anything is they aren't actually inactive (read: faulty evidence). Agree on Raz though.

I have no idea why you're suggesting that I just "jumped on a wagon," doing so ignores the Day 1 where I pretty much ran your wagon.

Hell, scum were saying he should be ignored. After that bull**** shot, scum's immediate mindset was probably along the lines of "DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO INVALIDATE RYKER."

Why would scum do this? What's the scum intent (this isn't a rhetorical question btw)?

You guys knew Ryker was tailspinning and yet you let him do it. Once that happened, you simply decided to take the game over. July was dead to you by that point. Ran was in your hands because he wanted July dead just as much. The only man capable of overrunning scum was cast aside by his own actions. You thought this game was yours.

I'm literally confused by this. Who are you referring to here? What do you mean by "Ryker was tailspinning?"

But the fact that the only player that was actually confirmed town was being flat-ignored by the other two people in a position to lead town and both were rallying for Ryker to be ignored is what got me into "sheeping" as you put it.

This feels very out of context. They moved to ignore Ryker after he posted some very controversial reads at the time.

Prove he's sheeping. I'm right. How is backing my conclusion wrong?

Like, all his reads align with yours? He's hardcore buddy you by drastically changing his tone whenever you post some dumb joke about dumbsters on fire or whatever?

You're the one person in thread that wants to keep him alive so it's pretty easy to see the benefit for WL regardless of alignment to just butt ride you.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Oh also, before I forget.

MARSHY:

I know that you have Ran and (I think?) J as town. I need to know your reasons as to WHY you have these two as town. I need to know that you actually have reason to believe that these two are town and that you're not just saying it.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

ranmarus just idiot town who will probably blow it. he tries to act like hes "in the know" but in reality hes been wrong about almost everything yet a lot of his posts reek of noobtown/dumbtown. ill go into detail on this when i get to a computer andll pull quotes

no longer have a townread on j. one of him and july are scum fa sho. what interests me about j is the strong language that playersve used wrt to him being scum. if j is scum then he is VERY OBVIOUSLY having some distancing/bussing shenanigans goin on. ill expand on this later too

deadlines coming up and town has gotta move. laundrys still grimy as all **** but these wimp townies probably wont roll on him and rykers whiteknighting him due to the buttsatisfaction that laundry eagerly supplies him with. so we might have to go j/july today

 

[#HBC | marshy]

might request a deadline extension. normally i hate them but j is lurking and so is raziek. i have a bunch of dumb/scum on me and kevins just kinda chillin. more time to make a nonretarded decision might be helpful

 

[#HBC | marshy]

the more i think about it the more j is probably a better lynch. j has been keeping his options open more than july (interactions and suspicion of dancer is weird and so is that message he sent him) and has claimed vt so of he flips town then no loss and just kill july tomorrow

but then july is such a useless pushover and shouldve been lynched already. hmph. wuddya think swords

 

[KevinM]

I would be down for a deadline extension so I can catch up

I had hosted a tournament this weekend have a lot to read but not tonight going to bed,

 

[#HBC | marshy]

nevermind. gorf stated that hes not down for deadline extensions in the rules

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Marshy who is J bussing? Just answer that and I'll look into it myself.

Would prefer July but might have to go J since I don't think we have enough voting power to go July.

Would start to catch up again (at post 590) but hw.