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Gigabots Manfia - GAME [JUMB]OVER. Who got the Gigatron?
- Thread starter #HBC | Laundry
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#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
He wasn't getting defensive, he was getting offensive. Your handling of me has been utter s--t. Everyone will agree with me on that.
And you're scum.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Seriously that's the worst suspicion I've seen.
You'd be lynched if it weren't for the fact that your claim forces you to use no nightkill tonight.
You'd be lynched if it weren't for the fact that your claim forces you to use no nightkill tonight.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
We have 8 people.
2 scum, 1 indy, 5 town is safe to assume.
Our lynch pool is 4 people, and I'm sure the remaining anti-town is in there.
Orbo should not unplant JDietz. We need that unplant in case someone gets planted tomorrow. JDietz will be unplanted if a majority vote from Detective/Jupiter/Xonar allows him to. So JDietz, prove your worth.
There will be no nightkill tonight.
If there is > Lynch Ranmaru.
JTB is going to shoot Red Ruy next night (not tonight). That will prove Red Ruy's bulletproof claim. I will write a report about JTB next night to check his actions and hope fanmail returns properly.
If Red Ruy dies, then that's cool.
If Red Ruy lives and there's another night kill, they can still be scum together. (kill other target, blame mafia, claim to have shot Red Ruy)
If Red Ruy lives and there's no other night kill, they can still be scum together. (no kill) but a good situation.
This will trap some scum. But for this to work, we'll have to lynch Meow/JDietz.
2 scum, 1 indy, 5 town is safe to assume.
Our lynch pool is 4 people, and I'm sure the remaining anti-town is in there.
Orbo should not unplant JDietz. We need that unplant in case someone gets planted tomorrow. JDietz will be unplanted if a majority vote from Detective/Jupiter/Xonar allows him to. So JDietz, prove your worth.
There will be no nightkill tonight.
If there is > Lynch Ranmaru.
JTB is going to shoot Red Ruy next night (not tonight). That will prove Red Ruy's bulletproof claim. I will write a report about JTB next night to check his actions and hope fanmail returns properly.
If Red Ruy dies, then that's cool.
If Red Ruy lives and there's another night kill, they can still be scum together. (kill other target, blame mafia, claim to have shot Red Ruy)
If Red Ruy lives and there's no other night kill, they can still be scum together. (no kill) but a good situation.
This will trap some scum. But for this to work, we'll have to lynch Meow/JDietz.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Would like to hear Glyph/EE about this.
and yes, discuss this beforehand, gents.
and yes, discuss this beforehand, gents.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
MeowMonster - Thief (semi investigative)
Detective Sherlock Hound - Lynch predicting Bulletproof (self survivor)
Xonar - Reporter (semi investigative)
Jupiter - Inventor (JoaT sorta)
Ranmaru - 1 shot full game roleblocker (roleblocker)
JTB - Vig (killing role)
JDietz - Laserproof (self survivor)
Orboknown - Plant eater guy (sorta doc?)
Inferno - tracker (investigative)
Bardull - fake vigilante (red herring/vig trigger)
John - backup vig (killing role)
Ryker - ??? (scumguy)
Gorf - Jailer (protective, roleblocker)
Bananalama - Bodyguard (semi protective)
That amounts to:
Investigative - Meow + Xonar + Inferno (semi, semi, full)
Protective - Gorf + Orboknown + Bananalama (semi-full, semi, notreally)
Self protective - JDietz + Red Ruy
Killing role - (Bardull), John, JTB
Roleblocking - Gorf + Ranmaru
Other - Jupiter (Inventor) + Bardull (Vig trigger)
I've added our townies. Dark Green are still alive.
Protectives LOOK BALANCED. There's a roleblocking protective (two edged sword), an one shot anti-indy and a bodyguard who isn't really protecting, but taking the shot.
That means that one indy + mafia + backupvigilante would be most balanced. NOT two vigilantes. NOT AT ALL. There is only one role that prevents mafia/vig shots!
This puts a great deal of doubt on JTB.
In terms of investigative, we have Inferno and Xonar/Meow. I don't really think that two semi + one full investigative can be true, so I'm assuming that Meow is lying, but it's not that strong. Her play around her claim, on the other hand...
There could be two self protective, and I refuse to believe that scum coordinates themselves to claim self protective twice, which makes Jdietz+Red Ruy in a team impossible.
I also see no incentive to guess that Gorf was going to get lynched. Except if Red Ruy + Meow are a scumteam. Either way, the fact that Gorf wasn't likely to get lynched puts a great deal of doubt on Red Ruy.
That's what I have now.
Detective Sherlock Hound - Lynch predicting Bulletproof (self survivor)
Xonar - Reporter (semi investigative)
Jupiter - Inventor (JoaT sorta)
Ranmaru - 1 shot full game roleblocker (roleblocker)
JTB - Vig (killing role)
JDietz - Laserproof (self survivor)
Orboknown - Plant eater guy (sorta doc?)
Inferno - tracker (investigative)
Bardull - fake vigilante (red herring/vig trigger)
John - backup vig (killing role)
Ryker - ??? (scumguy)
Gorf - Jailer (protective, roleblocker)
Bananalama - Bodyguard (semi protective)
That amounts to:
Investigative - Meow + Xonar + Inferno (semi, semi, full)
Protective - Gorf + Orboknown + Bananalama (semi-full, semi, notreally)
Self protective - JDietz + Red Ruy
Killing role - (Bardull), John, JTB
Roleblocking - Gorf + Ranmaru
Other - Jupiter (Inventor) + Bardull (Vig trigger)
I've added our townies. Dark Green are still alive.
Protectives LOOK BALANCED. There's a roleblocking protective (two edged sword), an one shot anti-indy and a bodyguard who isn't really protecting, but taking the shot.
That means that one indy + mafia + backupvigilante would be most balanced. NOT two vigilantes. NOT AT ALL. There is only one role that prevents mafia/vig shots!
This puts a great deal of doubt on JTB.
In terms of investigative, we have Inferno and Xonar/Meow. I don't really think that two semi + one full investigative can be true, so I'm assuming that Meow is lying, but it's not that strong. Her play around her claim, on the other hand...
There could be two self protective, and I refuse to believe that scum coordinates themselves to claim self protective twice, which makes Jdietz+Red Ruy in a team impossible.
I also see no incentive to guess that Gorf was going to get lynched. Except if Red Ruy + Meow are a scumteam. Either way, the fact that Gorf wasn't likely to get lynched puts a great deal of doubt on Red Ruy.
That's what I have now.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Alright.
Today, Meow lynch.
Tonight, Jdietz abduct.
3 town, 2 scum 1 indy (worst case)
Tomorrow, Ranmaru/RedRuy lynch.
TomorrowNight, JTB shoots Red Ruy/Ranmaru.
If no scum left -> Re-evaluate
If scum left -> JTB
Seems like the best course of action.
Unvote
Today, Meow lynch.
Tonight, Jdietz abduct.
3 town, 2 scum 1 indy (worst case)
Tomorrow, Ranmaru/RedRuy lynch.
TomorrowNight, JTB shoots Red Ruy/Ranmaru.
If no scum left -> Re-evaluate
If scum left -> JTB
Seems like the best course of action.
Unvote
Detective Sherlock Hound
Dooms|Red Ryu
Xonar there are a lot of things you're forgetting.
Our role shows that it's very unlikely that we'll get anything. We have to guess a correct lynch. Our guess is one shot. If we're wrong, then we're VT. The fact that Bardull was in the game just gave us luck, meaning that we got lucky. Very lucky BP with 1.5 protectives (Kuz being the .5) and two or three killing roles (three if JTB is telling the truth, two if JTB is scum)?
Unless I'm missing a protective, and unless I'm misunderstanding roles (Orbo just reverses the vote-block, right? JDietz just reflects a laser, right?), then you're going to have to point out how this is impossible, especially when Kuz kills himself if he protects, Gord role blocks, and us getting a BP is very luck based and rare.
Also, in your case against us, you're claiming that we guessed Gord. We guessed BARDULL.
We guessed Bardull night one, and he was lynched day two. Gord's lynch didn't effect our role at all. It was Bardull's and Bardull's only. If Bardull wasn't lynched Day two, then we would be a plain VT.
Straighten your facts before you try to claim we're scum through faulty logic.
Our role shows that it's very unlikely that we'll get anything. We have to guess a correct lynch. Our guess is one shot. If we're wrong, then we're VT. The fact that Bardull was in the game just gave us luck, meaning that we got lucky. Very lucky BP with 1.5 protectives (Kuz being the .5) and two or three killing roles (three if JTB is telling the truth, two if JTB is scum)?
Unless I'm missing a protective, and unless I'm misunderstanding roles (Orbo just reverses the vote-block, right? JDietz just reflects a laser, right?), then you're going to have to point out how this is impossible, especially when Kuz kills himself if he protects, Gord role blocks, and us getting a BP is very luck based and rare.
Also, in your case against us, you're claiming that we guessed Gord. We guessed BARDULL.
We guessed Bardull night one, and he was lynched day two. Gord's lynch didn't effect our role at all. It was Bardull's and Bardull's only. If Bardull wasn't lynched Day two, then we would be a plain VT.
Straighten your facts before you try to claim we're scum through faulty logic.
Detective Sherlock Hound
Dooms|Red Ryu
Clearing this up as well.
Our night ability was to send Washed Laundry a PM, guessing who would be lynched the next day. Now:
What we assumed: We could do this every night in return for one shot abilities. I could guess Bardull night one, get it right, and get a 1 shot BP in return. I could guess Gord night two, get it right, and get a 1 shot vig. Stuff like that.
What was reality: We could only do this once. If we got it wrong, tough ****. If we got it right, then we got a permanent ability. We guessed Bardull night one, got a permanent Bulletproof, and that is the end of that.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Hey dude, if youre really BP, then get Ranmaru lynched tomorrow and eat JTBs bullet.
Id like Jupiter to draw a ****ing gun or whatever so that I can personally shoot Red Ruy should it come to that. JTB not killing Red Ruy doesnt clear him in the slightest, it will stall a day at best and cause confusion at worst.
Itd be swell if a scum would flip before we get to Detective/Ran, because in that case they cant be teamed up.
Id like Jupiter to draw a ****ing gun or whatever so that I can personally shoot Red Ruy should it come to that. JTB not killing Red Ruy doesnt clear him in the slightest, it will stall a day at best and cause confusion at worst.
Itd be swell if a scum would flip before we get to Detective/Ran, because in that case they cant be teamed up.
Detective Sherlock Hound
Dooms|Red Ryu
Wait...
I just re-read your plan...
Are you trying to command the indy? ._.
I just re-read your plan...
Are you trying to command the indy? ._.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Im clinging on to plants -> abduction.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
I also watched Gigabots partly for this show. Klora is the indy probably.
Also love how none of Meows results are on living dudes.
Also love how none of Meows results are on living dudes.
Detective Sherlock Hound
Dooms|Red Ryu
Why would the indy follow your plan, though? That may ruin everything ._.
I like your plan besides that, though, and will talk to Ryu about it. Pretty sure we're gonna go with that, though.
Vote: MeowMonster
I like your plan besides that, though, and will talk to Ryu about it. Pretty sure we're gonna go with that, though.
Vote: MeowMonster
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Jdietz is already planted.
There can be no abduction because vines will only trigger once. Otherwise, you can just plant "read" and abduct half the game.
With Orbo being able to cancel plants, we can assure no abduction tomorrow.
The indy is doing exactly what my plan wants.
There can be no abduction because vines will only trigger once. Otherwise, you can just plant "read" and abduct half the game.
With Orbo being able to cancel plants, we can assure no abduction tomorrow.
The indy is doing exactly what my plan wants.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
There can be no other abduction***
To prove this, Ill repost JDs post in a sec. Im REALLY positive of this.
To prove this, Ill repost JDs post in a sec. Im REALLY positive of this.
Detective Sherlock Hound
Dooms|Red Ryu
....Wait....
OHHH! I get what you're saying.
Sorry. Had a slow moment xD.
OHHH! I get what you're saying.
Sorry. Had a slow moment xD.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
If I get planted, Orbo unplants me.
Jdietz43
Smash Journeyman
*
K sure, here's teh beef:
I'm still Commander Stryker Assistant #1 (the blonde one), but I'm Town Laser Reflector, not flavor cop. (no really: I'm serious)
In other words: I'm vanilla since my main job is solely to LAUNCH IT, except for I'm prepared on the off chance a wild laser comes charging at my person, in which case I'll deflect it (Washed's phrasing is lol)
I've yet to determine exactly what that entails: but I mostly suspected it was a red herring role from Washed. Either that or the vig (who I initially assumed would be the Green Gigabot laser) wouldn't touch me.
So with that out of the way, down to details of why I gambit'd, and why I'm still pretty darn sure Meow is town:
I'm sure you all remember back when John was claiming yes? Well just before he claimed, Meow made this post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeowMonster
I've got John's claim for all of you:
He is
...
...
The Batman
Ha ha very funny: Standard Kirb (MeowMonster) antics.
John claimed Assistant #2 and I backed down since there was no way in my mind he could fake that flavor role without being legit.
Then however, after the claim by John, Meow posted this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeowMonster
HOLY BATMAN
Jokes aside, votes off. He's genuine.
Uh huh... That's not quite as normal for her. She likes Batman just fine, but also posting Robin wasn't something I was expecting, WHILE also claiming that John was legit. She could have just been highly believing of me, but I didn't think that was it, it was too unlike her to post that. (she likes to joke about Batman because college humor vids that are totally amazing, but I've never known her to ever mention Robin)
It struck me as funny, so when I did a re-read of the section after the John claim dust settled I examined it a little harder. That's when I realized John didn't claim back-up vig like my mind paraphrased it to be: he claimed sidekick. Hmmm
That's a mighty big coincidence, more than I'm willing to accept as so. But the real deal clincher came when I was pressuring Gorf the next day and looking for opinions since I wasn't willing to let him just slide by. When Meow chimed in on the matter, she had this to say:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeowMonster
He reminds me of a certain:
He's got a front to pull, but behind all his actions are some type of other motive. That I can see.
A shameless and complete pro-town player wouldn't be walking down his alley. Pushing John after he's made pretty innocent, buddying like no one's business, and just the incessant snippyness is irksome.
Oh really. Weird picture to be posting while condemning Gorf... I'm curious. *right click inspect element* -> google search link. Leads me to find it's the corrupt warden from Shawshank Redemption the movie. I never saw it myself: but wikipedia tells me the character is a total a**hole antagonist acting like a good guy throughout the plot. Oddly specific...
LYNCH GORF LYNCH GORF LYNCH GORF
And we all know how that went down. There was no way those were both coincidence, so I took up the flavor cop guise with the assumption she was an investigative role able to peg these, hopefully giving her another day out of the spotlight and therefore not murdered. I figured with laser reflective powers I'd at least be a slightly better target for death since I wasn't going to be directly helping if never targeted, if we got lucky maybe scum would even die from it. (thus: no doc on me requested at end of day)
Considering Gorf flipped Jailer, I highly doubt my gambit was in vain. Now I guess we just wait to see exactly what kind of help she is and what she has for us today.
Beyond that: Since I'm laserproof, my idea for the rest of today was to point the laser pointer at me and see what happens. That way if it's a death ray in disguise because Washed is a troll there's at least a good chance it's going to bounce off and not kill me.
Jdietz43
Smash Journeyman
*
K sure, here's teh beef:
I'm still Commander Stryker Assistant #1 (the blonde one), but I'm Town Laser Reflector, not flavor cop. (no really: I'm serious)
In other words: I'm vanilla since my main job is solely to LAUNCH IT, except for I'm prepared on the off chance a wild laser comes charging at my person, in which case I'll deflect it (Washed's phrasing is lol)
I've yet to determine exactly what that entails: but I mostly suspected it was a red herring role from Washed. Either that or the vig (who I initially assumed would be the Green Gigabot laser) wouldn't touch me.
So with that out of the way, down to details of why I gambit'd, and why I'm still pretty darn sure Meow is town:
I'm sure you all remember back when John was claiming yes? Well just before he claimed, Meow made this post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeowMonster
I've got John's claim for all of you:
He is
...
...
The Batman
Ha ha very funny: Standard Kirb (MeowMonster) antics.
John claimed Assistant #2 and I backed down since there was no way in my mind he could fake that flavor role without being legit.
Then however, after the claim by John, Meow posted this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeowMonster
HOLY BATMAN
Jokes aside, votes off. He's genuine.
Uh huh... That's not quite as normal for her. She likes Batman just fine, but also posting Robin wasn't something I was expecting, WHILE also claiming that John was legit. She could have just been highly believing of me, but I didn't think that was it, it was too unlike her to post that. (she likes to joke about Batman because college humor vids that are totally amazing, but I've never known her to ever mention Robin)
It struck me as funny, so when I did a re-read of the section after the John claim dust settled I examined it a little harder. That's when I realized John didn't claim back-up vig like my mind paraphrased it to be: he claimed sidekick. Hmmm
That's a mighty big coincidence, more than I'm willing to accept as so. But the real deal clincher came when I was pressuring Gorf the next day and looking for opinions since I wasn't willing to let him just slide by. When Meow chimed in on the matter, she had this to say:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeowMonster
He reminds me of a certain:
He's got a front to pull, but behind all his actions are some type of other motive. That I can see.
A shameless and complete pro-town player wouldn't be walking down his alley. Pushing John after he's made pretty innocent, buddying like no one's business, and just the incessant snippyness is irksome.
Oh really. Weird picture to be posting while condemning Gorf... I'm curious. *right click inspect element* -> google search link. Leads me to find it's the corrupt warden from Shawshank Redemption the movie. I never saw it myself: but wikipedia tells me the character is a total a**hole antagonist acting like a good guy throughout the plot. Oddly specific...
LYNCH GORF LYNCH GORF LYNCH GORF
And we all know how that went down. There was no way those were both coincidence, so I took up the flavor cop guise with the assumption she was an investigative role able to peg these, hopefully giving her another day out of the spotlight and therefore not murdered. I figured with laser reflective powers I'd at least be a slightly better target for death since I wasn't going to be directly helping if never targeted, if we got lucky maybe scum would even die from it. (thus: no doc on me requested at end of day)
Considering Gorf flipped Jailer, I highly doubt my gambit was in vain. Now I guess we just wait to see exactly what kind of help she is and what she has for us today.
Beyond that: Since I'm laserproof, my idea for the rest of today was to point the laser pointer at me and see what happens. That way if it's a death ray in disguise because Washed is a troll there's at least a good chance it's going to bounce off and not kill me.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Also, no votes yet. Both JTB and Muscles have a plan lined up.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Rans roleblock will prevent an abduction tomorrow. Sweet.
Meaning the indy is pretty powerless at this point.
Meaning the indy is pretty powerless at this point.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Jupiter, who was most likely to die on D2? Is Bardull a legit guess?
Jupiter's Biceps
Smash Rookie
Ran clearly has a posting restriction where he has to say the opposite of what a person with a fully functional brain would say.
Xonar, yeah I guess it could be? Not that it matters, he's scum. Case inbound as soon as I get home from class.
Xonar, yeah I guess it could be? Not that it matters, he's scum. Case inbound as soon as I get home from class.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Still stand by this. Anything contradicting it I said before this is null.Alright.
Today, Meow lynch.
Tonight, Jdietz abduct.
3 town, 2 scum 1 indy (worst case)
Tomorrow, Ranmaru/RedRuy lynch.
TomorrowNight, JTB shoots Red Ruy/Ranmaru.
If no scum left -> Re-evaluate
If scum left -> JTB
Seems like the best course of action.
Unvote
Orboknown
Smash Hero
So we are agreed that I'm holding off on the one-shot de-evo for now?
I'll scan the thread again for anything addressed to me, skimmed earlier while on a break from a test so generally caught up.
anyone left to claim?
I'll scan the thread again for anything addressed to me, skimmed earlier while on a break from a test so generally caught up.
anyone left to claim?
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Yeah. No de-evo yet.
Everyone claimed.
Everyone claimed.
Orboknown
Smash Hero
alright.
course of action is Meow/JTB?
course of action is Meow/JTB?
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Read my recent posts. It has all claims and our plan.
Orboknown
Smash Hero
alright.
read, we waiting for any explanations or can we go ahead and vote?
read, we waiting for any explanations or can we go ahead and vote?
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
We wait for JTB and Muscles.
Orboknown
Smash Hero
Aight.
10chars
10chars
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Shoot RedRuy today and tomorrow. Follow the plan.
Orboknown
Smash Hero
thought the plan was RR tomorrow night?
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Also, why isnt my claim worthwhile for me yet? 
Orboknown
Smash Hero
nevermind, reread the last xonar post with the plan.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
We can shoot him today too, theres a mass roleblock anyway.