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Gheb's crazy auction mafia | Game over, Mafia wins

#HBC | Ryker

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So wait. You role blocked JAY not Zalak.

What was the D1 flip. I was under the impression from the cheers that we nailed one.
 

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Open set-up. 2x mafia, 1xtown traitor. You legit haven't read a damn thing about this game, have you?

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yeah, i hate to sound rude, but I think you should at least go back and skim through this game. skip around if you have to, but you've gotta read up.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I thought there was a slim chance that both of them were mafia, so I decided to attempt tricking them into believing I was traitor.


Give me one good reason he shouldn't be talking to me right now.
Thought the RB bingo was on you. Now you just look awful because you are defending someone from
 

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there was no bingo on Nabe, he just looks incredibly scummy to laundry. Kinda scummy to me, but I'm not sure. I dunno about the rest of us.
 

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yeah, i hate to sound rude, but I think you should at least go back and skim through this game. skip around if you have to, but you've gotta read up.
Chill. Things are firing on all cylinders at the moment, so I'm GOING to be here. That's how you win the game.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Then why are you talking about scum framing Jay by no killing? Then what was that argument even about?
 

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Then why are you talking about scum framing Jay by no killing? Then what was that argument even about?
As unlikely as it is for Laundry to be mafia at this point, his behavior has been kind of off recently. I just wanted to point out that we don't have PROOF of the mafia even trying to attack last night.
 

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Laundry looks really good right now, but he's not proven. We can't be 100% sure about him, despite what we think happened last night.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Alex, what was this about you and Gorf on D1?
I lynched Gorf like a baka. I pulled off Nabe because I wasn't lynching him and figured that his perspective of my play could've gone either way so I had no real fuel to push him with. I looked at Gorf and saw a slot that was surprisingly with little bark and zero action, remembered that he had pulled that in a similar game as scum, and questioned him less than 24 hours before deadline. Scum bit hard on that wagon and left me with a vanilla townie lynch on my hands.

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Occam's razor simplifies things TOO much. We can still press people for more evidence. I want to find the TRUTH.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Laundry looks really good right now, but he's not proven. We can't be 100% sure about him, despite what we think happened last night.
You are aware of how awful that sounds, right? We can't be sure this isn't a ******* modded game with a hidden role that becomes a Mafia Member on night 3 either.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Occam's razor simplifies things TOO much. We can still press people for more evidence. I want to find the TRUTH.
You are a fool, my young friend. Never question Occam in thread unless you intend to break the razor and lynch someone anyway.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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You are aware of how awful that sounds, right? We can't be sure this isn't a ******* modded game with a hidden role that becomes a Mafia Member on night 3 either.
Kid's been throwing suspicion at my slot all ****ing game. He's like Ranmaru but with less experience and one hell of an itchy voting finger.

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You are aware of how awful that sounds, right? We can't be sure this isn't a ******* modded game with a hidden role that becomes a Mafia Member on night 3 either.
If you guys are really going to play with this attitude, mafia members should just hold off on killing on the first night in EVERY game.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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What's Nabe been up to. What links him with Jay in your mind. Were they in a neighborhood WITH Zalak?
 

#HBC | Ryker

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If you guys are really going to play with this attitude, mafia members should just hold off on killing on the first night in EVERY game.
And lose anyway because they gave me a free lynch and everyvtownie got another night action. LMAO. This is not how the game works.
 

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Were they in a neighborhood WITH Zalak?
Aye, they were.
Kid's been throwing suspicion at my slot all ****ing game.
you've been throwing suspicious at your slot.. after all.. you admitted to intentionally turning yourself into a gigantic magnet.
And lose anyway because they gave me a free lynch and everyvtownie got another night action. LMAO. This is not how the game works.
Not all games of forum mafia work in the same way. Seriously, you need to at least read up on all of the items, and they way money was distributed.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I'm not getting into this any further. Suffice it to say, you are misguided and I'll talk in post game at length about mafia theory.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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What's Nabe been up to. What links him with Jay in your mind. Were they in a neighborhood WITH Zalak?
Correct, Zalak neighbored both and both shared the Neighborhood.

Nabe has been ******** at me all game because I called him out early on in the game and he didn't like how I did it. He kept that up until he fullclaimed the Neighborhood because he Zalak claimed (fake or not) traitor in it. Then, as soon as I shifted off of him, he acted like he was completely fine with me and the tunnel vision he had on me magically vanished as he started considering other options.

It's not so much what links him with Jay. It's moreso how Jay links to him, things like this:

Not too fond of Nabe's standoffish style right now.
I think Laundry had a point in saying Nabe wanted to lurk most of the time, which I don't like.
@Nabe to answer your earlier question:
More then anything, I suppose it was said based on the fact I had no reason to think what Laundry had said about your intended play was untrue, and was uncomfortable with it playing out as he said it would ( which seemed quite probable, then as now. ) Your defensive reaction and lack of posts up till Laundry shoved you into the open seemed like proof enough he was correct.

Also @JDietz nailed my thoughts between Laundry vs Nabe. I think you have to admit you understand Laundry's point Nabe, and it's honestly anti town to say you don't and also to not comply.
If Nabe really can't see Laundry's point that's just uncooperative and anti town, and I'll vote him for it.
@#HBC | Nabe I know you aren't afraid of me in the slightest but this IS a warning.
Dude, I said that because I know my place. I'm a snot nosed scrub among seasoned players and I haven't done jack-squat this game. Someone like Nabe has no reason to be afraid of me.
As Nabe said, I avoided the convo because I don't know how to use it and didn't want it to sway me in any wrong directions as a result.

Looked at it, and yes, Zalak claimed, and Nabe laid out 3 potential reasons:

1: Zalak is town traitor, lying about knowing we're scum
2: Zalak is town lying about being the traitor
3: Zalak is mafia lying about being traitor

Nabe looked at all of them in his post and deduced 2 was most likely.
While being in a ****ing Neighborhood with Nabe. This is the furthest that I've seen Jay go in calling anyone scum for any reason, and yet there's that weird caution of "this is a warning but i know you're not scared of me".

It just reeks of poor distancing attempts.

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If you guys are really going to play with this attitude, mafia members should just hold off on killing on the first night in EVERY game.
Okay, this might have been stretching it, but you need to think more FLEXIBLY.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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you've been throwing suspicious at your slot.. after all.. you admitted to intentionally turning yourself into a gigantic magnet.
Just because I intended as much doesn't change the fact that you have been dogging me longer than anyone else in the thread outside Nabe, nor the fact that your vote on me came in on whims.

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EBWOP: And if you could vote right now, I'm sure I would've earned it after that comment because you think that me criticizing you is somehow calling you scummy.

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Suspicion*

I haven't been dodging you. I've done my best to answer all of your questions. Lynching someone requires a lot more than 1 vote.
 

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Is that a Cooperative fake claim that Zalak was traitor from Nabe and Jay? What was the situation when it occurred?
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Also one of the biggest signs that that **** was a gambit was Nabe point-blank claiming why Jay wasn't in the Neighborhood and Jay ****ing running with it. It is not at all complicated to go to a PM, click on the link provided, and at least read if not hit the rather obvious "post new reply" button on the side of the page.

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EBWOP: And if you could vote right now, I'm sure I would've earned it after that comment because you think that me criticizing you is somehow calling you scummy.

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"If Zalak could steal the declaration of independence, I think he would probably do it, so he's a thief"
Also one of the biggest signs that that **** was a gambit was Nabe point-blank claiming why Jay wasn't in the Neighborhood and Jay ****ing running with it. It is not at all complicated to go to a PM, click on the link provided, and at least read if not hit the rather obvious "post new reply" button on the side of the page.

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Good point, but that does totally happen. Kursed was really inactive in mafia chat when we were mafia buddies in my first game.
 
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