Get your lucas critiqued here thread. post critique vids here!

[prOAPC]

i won't critique them because they are wifi :S just a few things
nair+utilt is like your worst choice angaist shields
EB360 likes to shield a lot, i could tell that after the first match, maybe jab cancel to grab would work nicely

 

[Andrea]

^^
5 very good Videos of Glarion VS Blad01 ( I think Blad01 is the best Falco in france^^) / Glarion would like some critique and advice, he knows he made a lot of mistake but Falco's Chaingrab is ridiculous lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0T68aenjrA&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6B9paDp0Yo&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeiDOK2OaMk&feature=channel ( You're right ! Brinstar is too good !)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCwC0c-uWxo&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf6Nt8VwieU&feature=channel ( Horrible , He was too prédictable )

 

[prOAPC]

^^
5 very good Videos of Glarion VS Blad01 ( I think Blad01 is the best Falco in france^^) / Glarion would like some critique and advice, he knows he made a lot of mistake but Falco's Chaingrab is ridiculous lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0T68aenjrA&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6B9paDp0Yo&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeiDOK2OaMk&feature=channel ( You're right ! Brinstar is too good !)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCwC0c-uWxo&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf6Nt8VwieU&feature=channel ( Horrible , He was too prédictable )

really good matches :D
tell Glarion to come to the boards =)
are you a girl?
some mistakes, after he grabs Falco, he throw him the wrong way, i mean, Falco is at 150%, but he throw Falco to the side, when a dthrow would kill him, or he grabs Falco at 100% and waste his dthrow. Too many sh dairs. Sometimes, i felt that he wanted to kill Falco as soon as possible and he started to spam fsmash, it hurted his game. I'd say those were some minor mistakes, was he nervous or something? Again, really good Lucas, really good Falco too, awesome matches. Tell me if he wants me to critique one video min by min

 

[ToxiCrow]

Andrea is a boys name in Europe APC.

 

[prOAPC]

oh...

one more thing, he rarely uses Ftilt, like, never, same thing what i said before, work a little with the ground game

 

[Chuee]

APC said it all.

Oh and levitas, congrats on becoming moderator.

 

[chaos_Leader]

Going to have to post full matches to be critiqued in the get your matches critiqued thread.[/QUOTE]


Here is a big video dump of 4BLUNTED2ASSASSIN0's gameplay. He's a friend of mine who plays a pretty vicious Lucas, so I thought I'd post some of his matches.

I'm his opponent in each of these matches; much of the time, I use Fox but I do bring out a few others.

I'd like to apologize in advance for the occasional trippyness of some of the video quality



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqfGk4nCt5Q&fmt=18 vs. Fox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU80dtvIUzs&fmt=18 vs. Fox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9ycce1jLv4&fmt=18 vs. Fox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFQ3Z0kHHqE&fmt=18 vs. Fox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctH7NMUfYrk&fmt=18 vs. Fox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNJeWtrYLWQ&fmt=18 vs. Fox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_iOB6wOLzY&fmt=18 vs. Fox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfcpwMaZkUI&fmt=18 vs. Fox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov_gURcWK1c&fmt=18 vs. Ike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34lYiDzmYEk&fmt=18 vs. Lucario

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QAZyxvs4tU&fmt=18 vs. Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqvFKXPxkDM&fmt=18 vs. Marth

 

[Levitas]

WOAH!

people should be posting 1-2 vids that are representative of their play to get critiqued. I'll update the OP to include that

 

[ChaosTheoryX]

Here's some vids of my lucas that were recorded last saturday at a tourny. These are all friendlies. I was playing a bit more defensive than I usually like to and it cost me sometimes. Any costructive critisism would be welcome.

1: ChaosTheory(Lucas) vs. Zeton(Fox)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3hadSBsa_A&feature=channel_page

2: ChaosTheory(Lucas) vs. Zeton(Falco)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ya_2w_vb3w&feature=channel_page

3: ChaosTheory(Lucas) vs. Mr. Doom(Ike)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRXfJkR_JP0&feature=channel_page

4: ChaosTheory(Lucas) vs. Mr. Doom(Ike)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx3J74alAUQ&feature=channel_page

5: ChaosTheory(Lucas) vs. Joker(Snake)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E31k-kcBlSE&feature=channel_page

6: ChaosTheory(Lucas) vs. Joker(Samus)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btadHfMqpPI&feature=channel_page

7: ChaosTheory(Lucas) vs Joker(Samus)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2SOK-9Tez4&feature=channel_page

 

[Chuee]

That ike sure loves his combo breaker. Oh and nice stage spike.

EDIT: That round 4 match against joker wass full of crazy shet. 2 ledgebends and glitch at the ending ._.

 

[FireKirby7]

Against chars like Ike, feel free to spam PKF. You don't always have to approach no projectile chars. And instead of landing with fair, land a distance away from your opponent and PKF right before you land. I saw you do so sometimes, but not all the time. Fair isn't very safe.....

Also I've seen you wait and watch while Samus charges up her beam. PKF, son! It even stops a fully charged shot, as seen in your matches.

 

[ZMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiCcOJ7gfyo

i found my future wife lol

 

[Chuee]

Zman why would you marry a noob?

 

[Irsic]

whoa guys, 2 vids to be critiqued at a time max, please.

 

[ChaosTheoryX]

I never asked for all of them to be critiqued. I dont care if you just chose one to critique and just watched the others or just gave advice for my gameplay over-all

 

[ToxiCrow]

Zman- as much as i like asian girls, that girl is no good

@ Both Chaos- AM and PM classes got canceled, so i'll critique your 1st two videos 2morro

 

[prOAPC]

please, critique mine
APC (Lucas) vs JP (Wolf)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-CcWtxcwrc
that match was a friendly from the last tournament i went to
johns: my controller wasn't working fine, it's hard to tell just watching the vid, but it was hard to SH, sometimes i SH, but instead Lucas used both jumps, i used a lot of grounded PK Fire, just because i was scared of using jumps. Also, i couldn't hold my shield or psi magnet as long as i wanted to :S
Maybe you are thinking "then, why do you want us to critique that video?", because i have to wait until Holy Week for my friend to upload the fights i want you to critique

 

[Tyr_03]

ChaosTheory: You need to work on your DI. Being able to DI and SDI out of multihit attacks is really important. Ex. Fox's Fair. You also can DI better to survive longer. Don't forget that when you're hit upward or upward diagonally you need to fast fall an aerial to survive longer. You're just not very consistent with it.

Also, short hop air dodge is an inherently dangerous thing to do because when you land you have landing lag that leaves you entirely open. Because of this, it's better not to do it too much and save it for mixups if you're going to. It really can't be predictable or you're going to get punished.

Short hop fair can be really dangerous if you don't do it retreating. It's very easy to see coming and can be punished with like anything because of all that extra air time. If you're going to SH Fair you should either space by retreating with it or know for sure that it's going to hit. I like to save it for when the opponent is stuck in lag or out of shield depending on the spacing and lag because it combos into ftilt or jabs at low percentages.

I know these are friendlies so I don't know if you're trying new stuff out or sandbagging somewhat (I know I tend to in friendlies) but it seems like sometimes you're just throwing random stuff out there. PK Fire isn't always well spaced. Pretty much any character can get past PK Fire by Perfect shielding unless you space it just right so you need to be really careful with it. I would suggest in general to slow down your game. There are a lot of ways to do that and you might find it really helps.

You seem to know what you're doing. You have the techniques down and a general idea of things to do. I hope I can play you at a midwest circuit east event sometime if you can make it. Don't take anything personally. You asked for a critique and I'm trying to help out. You're a good player.

 

[ChaosTheoryX]

ChaosTheory: You need to work on your DI. Being able to DI and SDI out of multihit attacks is really important. Ex. Fox's Fair. You also can DI better to survive longer. Don't forget that when you're hit upward or upward diagonally you need to fast fall an aerial to survive longer. You're just not very consistent with it.

Also, short hop air dodge is an inherently dangerous thing to do because when you land you have landing lag that leaves you entirely open. Because of this, it's better not to do it too much and save it for mixups if you're going to. It really can't be predictable or you're going to get punished.

Short hop fair can be really dangerous if you don't do it retreating. It's very easy to see coming and can be punished with like anything because of all that extra air time. If you're going to SH Fair you should either space by retreating with it or know for sure that it's going to hit. I like to save it for when the opponent is stuck in lag or out of shield depending on the spacing and lag because it combos into ftilt or jabs at low percentages.

I know these are friendlies so I don't know if you're trying new stuff out or sandbagging somewhat (I know I tend to in friendlies) but it seems like sometimes you're just throwing random stuff out there. PK Fire isn't always well spaced. Pretty much any character can get past PK Fire by Perfect shielding unless you space it just right so you need to be really careful with it. I would suggest in general to slow down your game. There are a lot of ways to do that and you might find it really helps.

You seem to know what you're doing. You have the techniques down and a general idea of things to do. I hope I can play you at a midwest circuit east event sometime if you can make it. Don't take anything personally. You asked for a critique and I'm trying to help out. You're a good player.

ya no hard feelings an I post my vids on here for the reason of getting critiqued, so as long as you dont just say "BLARGH you sukzorz l2p noob" and not give examples or explanations I'm fine with whatever is said =P

ya the reason I said these were friendlies was because I never take friendlies too seriously. I'm always trying new stuff and just doing stupid crap at times. It just sucks cause in pools a guy was recording my matches cause he was pissed I beat him so bad and wanted to learn myplay style, but he said hes not gonna put them on teh youtubes so see-ing my lucas in action seems like a no go

 

[prOAPC]

It just sucks cause in pools a guy was recording my matches cause he was pissed I beat him so bad and wanted to learn myplay style, but he said hes not gonna put them on teh youtubes so see-ing my lucas in action seems like a no go

lol envy
10envies

 

[Tyr_03]

lol I know what you mean. I've had people refuse to put vids up because I beat them too badly.

 

[Levitas]

the ones where you win by that much are the ones that you don't want critiqued anyway. I frequently spam a one layer strat until it stops working against people worse than me.

 

[OniTheWolf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhdGGFfoAig&fmt=18

In this match, I neglected my normal usage of PK Fire because I wanted to experiment with Lucas's DAir. Criticism is still appreciated.

 

[prOAPC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhdGGFfoAig&fmt=18

In this match, I neglected my normal usage of PK Fire because I wanted to experiment with Lucas's DAir. Criticism is still appreciated.

tu use Dair, you don't have to use 2 jumps, you can use 1 jump+dair, and even if you fast fall, you autocancel it. Also, if you jump and dair at the same time, like jumping with L, you can use your second jump just before touching the ground. Nice combo at 2:50, footstool+dair+dtilt+usmash, did you know that you can make this combo easier if you jump and dair at the same time? As i said before, "if you jump and dair at the same time, you can use your second jump just before touching the ground", well, you can footstool the opponent after your first dair, doing this combo dair+footstool+dair. After that combo, it's harder to pull off a dtilt lock, use it just for racking up damage.

As for nair combos, you have to avoid hitting with the last hit of nair. To do that, try fast falling the nair or move to the side while attacking

Not more input because it is a wifi match, sorry

 

[packymacky]

hey have u guys seen or do u do this tech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it6M0DS9pEg check it out sure someones found it alrdy but i called it what i wanted to lol enjoy

 

[c3gill]

hey have u guys seen or do u do this tech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it6M0DS9pEg check it out sure someones found it alrdy but i called it what i wanted to lol enjoy

.... wavebouncing? looks like your B-sticking it as well. lolz at "Waveglyding"

almost as good as when I didnt know what footstooling was and I called it "headbouncing"

 

[prOAPC]

hey have u guys seen or do u do this tech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it6M0DS9pEg check it out sure someones found it alrdy but i called it what i wanted to lol enjoy

old, now go and practice it with only one jump, i made a thread about that while ago with 1 video, search for "full hop magnet pull"

 

[packymacky]

dude i dont think its possible with just one hop i tried but ill try again

 

[Levitas]

that's when it's most useful.

 

[Irsic]

dude i dont think its possible with just one hop i tried but ill try again

You are very wrong, as a Full Hop dair is the most useful way of using it.

 

[prOAPC]

dude i dont think its possible with just one hop i tried but ill try again

dude you don't know who you are talking to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvuUzJ-eOsw

 

[c3gill]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utuPkeVlcYE&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNAz4k0L0_k&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXa1wpE6NaA&feature=channel

few matches, just a glimpse of my somewhat recent play. Opinions, negative and positive, are welcome. If terribly negative, feel free to PM it to me

EDIT- sorry about the crappy quality

 

[ToxiCrow]

Going to have to post full matches to be critiqued in the get your matches critiqued thread

Here is a big video dump of 4BLUNTED2ASSASSIN0's gameplay. He's a friend of mine who plays a pretty vicious Lucas, so I thought I'd post some of his matches.

I'm his opponent in each of these matches; much of the time, I use Fox but I do bring out a few others.

I'd like to apologize in advance for the occasional trippyness of some of the video quality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqfGk4nCt5Q&fmt=18 vs. Fox

sorry it took so long to critique
but this lucas needs to space! i mean he's using dtilt while he and fox are overlapping

0:12 - Fox's damage is at 12%. he isnt going to trip. use jab or grab or nair
0:23 - PKFire should be used at mid/long range. there is no need to use it when the opponent is a jab length away from you
0:48- good job using ftilt out of dair. if they hit the ground, u can get them into a dtilt lock or use a fsmash, but ftilt works too
1:08 - did u mean to do a downsmash here? lucas should've put some more space inbetween himself and fox and used a PKF or something. Lucas was at 120+% and Fox was at 10%. space is lucas' best friend
1:35 - approaching with either Nair or Dair. Fair can get you shieldgrabbed way to easily
1:58 - i like using PKF as an edgeguard. that was nice
2:01 - u see how low fox was? if u used PKT instead of PKfreeze, you would've ko'd him right there. PKfreeze ended up saving him and caused you a stock
3:32 - now you're finally getting some space in between you guys! you should've been doing this from the start of the match

my advice to you is this:
-stop approaching with fair and use Dair and Nair. they're much safer than fair is
- use PKT to edgeguard. PKfreeze is ok once in awhile, but you used it everytime the opponent was off-stage
- PKfire is probably your best spacing tool. use short hopped PKfire's frequently. dont be afraid to spam it
- SPACE SPACE SPACE. Lucas best friend is space and i feel like you were waay too aggressive this match. you probably would've won if you were a little more patient.

i hope this helps
represent

 

[prOAPC]

"0:12 - Fox's damage is at 12%. he isnt going to trip. use jab or grab or nair"
i don't think that the trip ratio depends on %

 

[Levitas]

for non trip modifier moves at least, percent and weight do affect trip %. I don't know about modified moves like Dtilt.

 

[chaos_Leader]

Thanks, I'll be sure to let him know.

"1:08 - did u mean to do a downsmash here? lucas should've put some more space inbetween himself and fox and used a PKF or something. Lucas was at 120+% and Fox was at 10%. space is lucas' best friend"

I think he was expecting me to be a tad more aggressive and didn't expect me to wait the way I did. The timing is actually pretty tricky to knock Lucas out of Dsmash since he comes out of it surprisingly quickly, If I had waited a tenth of a second longer: he would've had a shield up. If I went a tenth of a second earlier: I would've had deadly sparkles in my face.

But I do agree that my buddy plays way too aggressively. Against most people, his style works pretty well. But I've played him enough that I can read and exploit his aggressiveness. But also he really helps to train up my Fox.

 

[OniTheWolf]

Not that great of a Meta--but as a bonus, this is my first offline match of my Lucas ^_^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGSE_ACkho&fmt=18

 

[Yoshi-Kirby]

I wouldn't SH Bair onstage like you did on the beginning, it has ending lag and can be punished. SH Fair is not a good approach, and it also ends in lag, so I wouldn't recommend using it. Don't use SH Dair, ever, too much ending lag, and I saw you use a lot of it. You got into a habit of shielding and spotdodging, especially at 0:38-0:45. That gets really predictable. All I saw from your approaching tactics, were Fair (not reliable) and Dair, which is a good one. Too much approaching Dair gets predictable. You're not using one of Lucas's best moves - Nair. It's a good approach, and punishes shields and can AC. Offline SDs...? You seemed to grab often, which most of them landed, but still, Lucas's grab is bad...

Mainy, I would recommend you practice your approaching tactics mostly, and your spotdodging habit. he could've really punished you with grabs and smashes if he did correctly. Try to learn how to Zap Jump or Wave Zap and Magnet Pull to help you recover, or else a MK can get you easily.

Overall, nice Lucas though.

 

[Levitas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utuPkeVlcYE&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNAz4k0L0_k&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXa1wpE6NaA&feature=channel

few matches, just a glimpse of my somewhat recent play. Opinions, negative and positive, are welcome. If terribly negative, feel free to PM it to me

EDIT- sorry about the crappy quality

I'm in the midst of TOing a tournament right now, but expect solid critique coming up

 

[Irsic]

A tournament I would have been at if you guys had just made it last weekend instead of pushing it back 2 weekends.