Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Firox]

The only villains I can really see myself wanting are Medusa and Sephiroth.

Maybe Dark Matter to help add to the playable Kirby roster. Dark Matter could potentially have an interetsing moveste with its multiple forms throughout the series.

Honestly, Sephiroth is my #1 pick for new villain and I will squeal like a little girl if he gets in.

 

[SSGuy]

Team Rocket playable would be sick

 

[TheBeastHimself]

He may be driven by greed far more than megalomania like Bowser or Ganondorf.

**megalovania intensifies

sorry...

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Team Rocket playable would be sick

Yeah, it's just too bad a Gen 8 character is more likely than them at this stage, but at least Let's Go put them back in the Pokémon game series again.

 

[Deleted member]

I would agree that Wario is more of a Team Rocket kinda bad guy (more annoying than evil) but he's definitely still under the "bad guy" category. Anti-heroes often fight for the greater good in their own dark way, and he's definitely NOT one of those. Since his debut in Mario Land 2 for gameboy, he's always been an antagonist for Mario. Even the smash bros continuity establishes him as a villain. Remember subspace emissary? He may be driven by greed far more than megalomania like Bowser or Ganondorf but that doesn't excuse the evil deeds he's done in pursuit of wealth and money. He certainly hasn't ever done anything to redeem himself as a character that I know of. And no, you can't use his own games to justify him just because he's technically the protagonist in his own story. That would be like trying to justify Michael Myers just because he's the main character in Halloween.

I don't classify him as a hero, villain, or anti-hero. I said Wario does his own thing. Plus Wario never replaced Bowser as the villain of the Mario franchise and started invoking world domination, now did he? Plus, Smash isn't canon so I don't see why you're using that as an example of him being a villain. And why can't I use his own franchises to justify him? Do you think they aren't canon? Because they most certainly are. Also, I don't know get the Michael Myers comparison there. Micheal Myers wants to hunt down and kill people. Wario is a guy who wants to get the treasure he wants and he'll take out anyone in his path to get to it. He hunts for it to satisfy his greedy needs. Wario also runs his own game company, and he makes money that way too. He cares about himself and money. He doesn't want to rule the world, or get revenge on someone. He wants his gold, jewels, and any other goodies that'll get him rich.

 

[Firox]

I don't classify him as a hero, villain, or anti-hero. I said Wario does his own thing. Plus Wario never replaced Bowser as the villain of the Mario franchise and started invoking world domination, now did he? Plus, Smash isn't canon so I don't see why you're using that as an example of him being a villain. And why can't I use his own franchises to justify him? Do you think they aren't canon? Because they most certainly are. Also, I don't know get the Michael Myers comparison there. Micheal Myers wants to hunt down and kill people. Wario is a guy who wants to get the treasure he wants and he'll take out anyone in his path to get to it. He hunts for it to satisfy his greedy needs. Wario also runs his own game company, and he makes money that way too. He cares about himself and money. He doesn't want to rule the world, or get revenge on someone. He wants his gold, jewels, and any other goodies that'll get him rich.

I can see what you're saying, but take a moment to consider his rap sheet. He's got multiple counts of theft, robbery, aggravated assault, public indecency, attempted murder, and releases more methane into the atmosphere than a herd of cows. Sounds like a pretty bad guy to me. Not the sort of guy you'd want to find yourself alone with in a dark alley.

Also, I found an interesting little tidbit from his Wikipedia page: "The name "Wario" is a portmanteau of "Mario" with the Japanese adjective warui (悪い) meaning "bad"; hence, a "bad Mario" (further symbolized by the "W" on his hat, an upside down "M"). Official Nintendo lore states that Wario was a childhood rival to Mario and Luigi who became jealous of their success." Basically, he was created with the intent of being a dark reflection of Mario like Reverse Flash would be to Flash, or Venom to Spiderman (the comic version, not the Tom Hardy one).

 

[Deleted member]

I can see what you're saying, but take a moment to consider his rap sheet. He's got multiple counts of theft, robbery, aggravated assault, public indecency, attempted murder, and releases more methane into the atmosphere than a herd of cows. Sounds like a pretty bad guy to me. Not the sort of guy you'd want to find yourself alone with in a dark alley.

Also, I found an interesting little tidbit from his Wikipedia page: "The name "Wario" is a portmanteau of "Mario" with the Japanese adjective warui (悪い) meaning "bad"; hence, a "bad Mario" (further symbolized by the "W" on his hat, an upside down "M"). Official Nintendo lore states that Wario was a childhood rival to Mario and Luigi who became jealous of their success." Basically, he was created with the intent of being a dark reflection of Mario like Reverse Flash would be to Flash, or Venom to Spiderman (the comic version, not the Tom Hardy one).

And he's strayed away from being an "evil version of Mario" as time passed. Just like you said: Wario doesn't fight for the greater good in his own dark way. They've made Wario into a macho-man who is on the same level of strength as Bowser and DK with him having a ton of default abilities, being able turn into a vampire, zombie, etc if certain things happen to him, as well as make him a being who literally cannot die, and he became the owner of his own video game company and got himself a cool *** motorcycle. Not to mention he has his own car in Wario Land, along with his own castle, and he has his own house in WarioWare. And, again, he's making money off of his company. Since the first Wario Land, he has had no reason to be jealous of someone who's clearly below him, and still doesn't.

That, my friend, is called character development.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

You forget that he often saves people's lives (usually when he's unaware that he's about to do so), so he's not entirely adverse to the idea of doing things besides finding quick cash while he's adventuring. The only time he didn't care about saving the girl was when the object of his desire was right in front of him. Also, he finds Mona cute and she admires him enough to emulate his fashion sense, but that's besides the point.

Meanwhile, Waluigi still has remained Luigi's rival and hasn't budged an inch from that role since 2000. Closest thing he got to doing something different was in DDR: Mario Mix, but he only was the first boss, before he got hijacked by Wario and Bowser in succession.

 

[Ovaltine]

You forget that he often saves people's lives (usually when he's unaware that he's about to do so), so he's not entirely adverse to the idea of doing things besides finding quick cash while he's adventuring. The only time he didn't care about saving the girl was when the object of his desire was right in front of him. Also, he finds Mona cute and she admires him enough to emulate his fashion sense, but that's besides the point.

Meanwhile, Waluigi still has remained Luigi's rival and hasn't budged an inch from that role since 2000.

Wario has developed plenty, whereas Waluigi has only really developed extra flair over the years. Not that I mind that, of course. Waluigi crotch-chopping into the cosmos with a rose in his teeth is all the world needs.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Wario has developed plenty, whereas Waluigi has only really developed extra flair over the years. Not that I mind that, of course. Waluigi crotch-chopping into the cosmos with a rose in his teeth is all the world needs.

Speaking of that, it would be nice if Next Level Games did a new Strikers once Luigi's Mansion: Definitely Not A Mansion At All, You're Not Fooling Anyone is released.

 

[Firox]

And he's strayed away from being an "evil version of Mario" as time passed. Just like you said: Wario doesn't fight for the greater good in his own dark way. They've made Wario into a macho-man who is on the same level of strength as Bowser and DK with him having a ton of default abilities, being able turn into a vampire, zombie, etc if certain things happen to him, as well as make him a being who literally cannot die, and he became the owner of his own video game company and got himself a cool *** motorcycle. Not to mention he has his own car in Wario Land, along with his own castle, and he has his own house in WarioWare. And, again, he's making money off of his company. Since the first Wario Land, he has no reason to be jealous of someone who's clearly below him.

That, my friend, is called character development.

lol Wow, now that you mention it, I dare say that he's had more actual character development than almost any other character in the mario franchise. Pretty crazy how far he's come. On a side note, I find it somewhat annoying how Nintendo has kind of taken the teeth out their villains, so to speak. I remember when Bowser had at least some fear factor going for him, but now he's more comical than anything else. Villains like Dedede and Metaknight have shifted more into rival/anti-hero territory, but whatcha gonna do? There's a limit to how evil a bad guy can be in a game targeted mostly toward kids. At least we got good old fashion edgelords like Ganondorf and Sephiroth to set the standard.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Depends on the game, Freedom Planet is rated E10+ and still managed to have a humongous ******* of a villain that got away with his crimes, with the only comeuppance being a beating severe enough to have him go "nope, I'll just stay far away from these kids from now on".

 

[Deleted member]

I love Geno in M&L SS lol. I hope more cameos like this are sprinkled in SE games along with Geno returning to the Mario universe and having important roles in more Mario RPGs.

Have y'all ever thought of Paper Mallow and Geno? I never thought of it until now.

 

[Deleted member]

I love Geno in M&L SS lol. I hope more cameos like this are sprinkled in SE games along with Geno returning to the Mario universe and having important roles in more Mario RPGs.

Have y'all ever thought of Paper Mallow and Geno? I never thought of it until now.

I've seen a Paper Geno before but no Paper Mallow

 

[ZelDan]

I love Geno in M&L SS lol. I hope more cameos like this are sprinkled in SE games along with Geno returning to the Mario universe and having important roles in more Mario RPGs.

Have y'all ever thought of Paper Mallow and Geno? I never thought of it until now.

I actually thought about how it would be cool if SMRPG got remade into a paper Mario game.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I actually thought about how it would be cool if SMRPG got remade into a paper Mario game.

So basically Paper Mario with partners again?

 

[ZelDan]

So basically Paper Mario with partners again?

Sure, though maybe they make it so 3 characters are on the screen so it still feels kinda like SMRPG.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

I'm hoping to get a huge open world Mario RPG game with a mix of SMRPG, M&L, and Paper Mario.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Sure, though maybe they make it so 3 characters are on the screen so it still feels kinda like SMRPG.

Well, it literally is the same basic battle system. Use Flower Points, have the other character go after you(usually), turn-based, action commands...

Though are you aware that Paper Mario was originally SMRPG2?

 

[ZelDan]

Well, it literally is the same basic battle system. Use Flower Points, have the other character go after you(usually), turn-based, action commands...

Though are you aware that Paper Mario was originally SMRPG2?

yeah I know that.

 

[Deleted member]

So, an interesting point of discussion I don't see brought up many places, what do you think Geno's Boxing Ring Title would be?

 

[Ovaltine]

So, an interesting point of discussion I don't see brought up many places, what do you think Geno's Boxing Ring Title would be?

Not sure, but it'd definitely have to do with his rocket fists. That would be sick.

Also, happy SMRPG anniversary, y'all! The game's how old today? 23? 24? I don't remember, haha.

 

[CallMeKnux]

Tbh as a whole I just really wish Mario RPG’s would get a better rep in Smash. Like even in the music list the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi tracks are just mashed together as if they’re the same series. It triggers me. (As does the only track from classic PM being one part in the Sticker Star medley)

 

[Deleted member]

So, an interesting point of discussion I don't see brought up many places, what do you think Geno's Boxing Ring Title would be?

"The Wooden Wonder"
Is that good?

 

[EarlTamm]

"The Wooden Wonder"
Is that good?

It sounds kinda dirty.

I think the boxing ring title use ♡♪!? in some way.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Is The Starsend Savior an official thing? Because that's good.

 

[Deleted member]

It sounds kinda dirty.

I think the boxing ring title use ♡♪!? in some way.

I was originally gonna say "The Starsend Savior" but I thought "The Wooden Wonder" would work because he's made out of wood.

 

[The Anigriffin]

Is The Starsend Savior an official thing? Because that's good.

That or Star Road Guardian would both be good.

 

[Ovaltine]

I'm feeling pessimistic and sad about Geno's potential for a return (including, but not solely, Smash), so I'm gonna fight that with a recap of a lot of good points that point to his and Mallow's return being more likely than just an abysmal impossibility.

• After the Smash ballot, Geno is acknowledged by Sakurai as being 'incredibly popular' and having a 'ton of votes'. He gets a Mii costume in Smash 4 as consolation so his fans at least feel like they got something.
• Considering that, the spirit is 'getting something'. However, it is arguably a large downgrade from the Mii outfit, going from visible representation in-fight to a PNG. The Mii outfit is not present, and given they'd be reselling something people already purchased in a prior game (something Nintendo has not done, i.e. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe having all DLC packed in), I don't know if they'll resell it and any of the other third party outfits excluded. Either they will, which I'm sure will result in backlash, or there are bigger plans to compensate.
• Sakurai has gone on record to say that he wants to do 'as much as he can' for Ultimate. DLC is far easier on him than developing a new game, meaning his health suffers far less. Him making more Ultimate DLC is preferable for all parties, as far as I can surmise, than working on another Smash game. Along with that, another installment within the next 6-ish years looks very unlikely, given the Switch is still early in its lifespan. Nintendo has stated multiple times that their plans are for the Switch to have a far longer life than the Wii U, and I think that it is very feasible. Fighter's Pass may well be all that we're getting, but it's also pretty likely that we'll get more.
• Since the ballot, SMRPG has been acknowledged a lot by Nintendo again. It's been mentioned on Twitter, in the Smash HQ quiz for the TGAs, allowed in Ultimate's base game, and referenced multiple times by Piranha Plant. There is also the YCW reference to Yo'ster Cookies, but that is more debatable. Prior to this, SMRPG was never, ever mentioned, apart from smaller properties like locations and Frogfucius being present in an old Scholastic's book in 2007 or 2008. (It's... one of those...)
• Something else I noticed is that, in 2014, Yoko Shimomura's best themes were rereleased in new, orchestrated format by Square Enix. This is also the first time SMRPG music has been featured at all in any official Square Enix albums, featuring Beware the Forest's Mushrooms and Goodbye, Geno. This is the first time Square themselves have acknowledged SMRPG in many years, and this was, timeline-wise, I think... either a little after or before the ballot? (Source)
• Promotional stuff for Ultimate keeps showing off Geno's spirit. This is a very minor point that probably means nothing, though. However, the 11.1 Direct + main menus in Ultimate showcase Geno's spirit. The most tinfoil hat thing about this is he's attached to Shulk in both instances, a character that can predict the future. That bit, however, is 99% purely coincidental.
• Geno is one of the few legendary spirits to have a profile picture, and of the Mario RPG spirits, I beliiiiieve his is the only profile picture representation?
• Geno fans are everywhere online. EVERYWHERE. Play online for a bit and I can guarantee you'll likely find multiple people with Geno profile pictures. His fan base is really showing their support by using his profile picture, that's for sure, and I can only imagine Nintendo would be able to see those statistics of profile picture usage.
• Alpha Dream has been working on something for the Switch for a few years, aligning a little after the Smash ballot. The evidence? They've released ports on the 3DS of prior M&L games, but many essential staff members are missing. Those higher-ups obviously aren't going to be without work, and I could see them learning Switch development tools and planning their next project. I forget the exact intricacies, but I believe there's also even more evidence somewhere that Alpha Dream made those ports as small side projects to hold off until their Switch debut, if not an outright implication / statement.
• Square has gone on record to say that they want to bring past games to the Switch, some of them being ports, some of them being remasters. This includes games that were not on Nintendo consoles prior (i.e. Final Fantasy 7), but it could likely include Nintendo-exclusives, as well. Guess which game is highly requested to get a remaster? Guess which company that makes Mario RPGs in the current day is filled with former Square staff who directed SMRPG? Mm-hmm. Worst case scenario is not getting SMRPG at all or even getting it solely on NSO. Maybe it could even be re-released as an eShop exclusive. Who knows?
• Super Mario-Kun got a SMRPG segment a little while after the ballot. It never had one before, but now, all of a sudden, it gets one? It's also the first time in over twenty years that Geno and Mallow have gotten major roles, even if only in an official Mario manga.
• SMRPG was on the SNES Classic. Square loves to re-release Chrono Trigger like you wouldn't believe, yet it gets excluded in the SNES Classic and SMRPG gets included?
• Nintendo has licensed use of SMRPG music for physical store locations. Nintendo Store in NYC has actually played SMRPG music, as cited by a visitor from this thread.

I'm sure there's more, but... it's just so much, man. I can't even keep track anymore, haha.

 

[The Anigriffin]

I'm feeling pessimistic and sad about Geno's potential for a return (including, but not solely, Smash), so I'm gonna fight that with a recap of a lot of good points that point to his and Mallow's return being more likely than just an abysmal impossibility.

• After the Smash ballot, Geno is acknowledged by Sakurai as being 'incredibly popular' and having a 'ton of votes'. He gets a Mii costume in Smash 4 as consolation so his fans at least feel like they got something.
• Considering that, the spirit is 'getting something'. However, it is arguably a large downgrade from the Mii outfit, going from visible representation in-fight to a PNG. The Mii outfit is not present, and given they'd be reselling something people already purchased in a prior game (something Nintendo has not done, i.e. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe having all DLC packed in), I don't know if they'll resell it and any of the other third party outfits excluded. Either they will, which I'm sure will result in backlash, or there are bigger plans to compensate.
• Sakurai has gone on record to say that he wants to do 'as much as he can' for Ultimate. DLC is far easier on him than developing a new game, meaning his health suffers far less. Him making more Ultimate DLC is preferable for all parties, as far as I can surmise, than working on another Smash game. Along with that, another installment within the next 6-ish years looks very unlikely, given the Switch is still early in its lifespan. Nintendo has stated multiple times that their plans are for the Switch to have a far longer life than the Wii U, and I think that it is very feasible. Fighter's Pass may well be all that we're getting, but it's also pretty likely that we'll get more.
• Since the ballot, SMRPG has been acknowledged a lot by Nintendo again. It's been mentioned on Twitter, in the Smash HQ quiz for the TGAs, allowed in Ultimate's base game, and referenced multiple times by Piranha Plant. There is also the YCW reference to Yo'ster Cookies, but that is more debatable. Prior to this, SMRPG was never, ever mentioned, apart from smaller properties like locations and Frogfucius being present in an old Scholastic's book in 2007 or 2008. (It's... one of those...)
• Something else I noticed is that, in 2014, Yoko Shimomura's best themes were rereleased in new, orchestrated format by Square Enix. This is also the first time SMRPG music has been featured at all in any official Square Enix albums, featuring Beware the Forest's Mushrooms and Goodbye, Geno. This is the first time Square themselves have acknowledged SMRPG in many years, and this was, timeline-wise, I think... either a little after or before the ballot? (Source)
• Promotional stuff for Ultimate keeps showing off Geno's spirit. This is a very minor point that probably means nothing, though. However, the 11.1 Direct + main menus in Ultimate showcase Geno's spirit. The most tinfoil hat thing about this is he's attached to Shulk in both instances, a character that can predict the future. That bit, however, is 99% purely coincidental.
• Geno is one of the few legendary spirits to have a profile picture, and of the Mario RPG spirits, I beliiiiieve his is the only profile picture representation?
• Geno fans are everywhere online. EVERYWHERE. Play online for a bit and I can guarantee you'll likely find multiple people with Geno profile pictures. His fan base is really showing their support by using his profile picture, that's for sure, and I can only imagine Nintendo would be able to see those statistics of profile picture usage.
• Alpha Dream has been working on something for the Switch for a few years, aligning a little after the Smash ballot. The evidence? They've released ports on the 3DS of prior M&L games, but many essential staff members are missing. Those higher-ups obviously aren't going to be without work, and I could see them learning Switch development tools and planning their next project. I forget the exact intricacies, but I believe there's also even more evidence somewhere that Alpha Dream made those ports as small side projects to hold off until their Switch debut, if not an outright implication / statement.
• Square has gone on record to say that they want to bring past games to the Switch, some of them being ports, some of them being remasters. This includes games that were not on Nintendo consoles prior (i.e. Final Fantasy 7), but it could likely include Nintendo-exclusives, as well. Guess which game is highly requested to get a remaster? Guess which company that makes Mario RPGs in the current day is filled with former Square staff who directed SMRPG? Mm-hmm. Worst case scenario is not getting SMRPG at all or even getting it solely on NSO. Maybe it could even be re-released as an eShop exclusive. Who knows?
• Super Mario-Kun got a SMRPG segment a little while after the ballot. It never had one before, but now, all of a sudden, it gets one? It's also the first time in over twenty years that Geno and Mallow have gotten major roles, even if only in an official Mario manga.
• SMRPG was on the SNES Classic. Square loves to re-release Chrono Trigger like you wouldn't believe, yet it gets excluded in the SNES Classic and SMRPG gets included?
• Nintendo has licensed use of SMRPG music for physical store locations. Nintendo Store in NYC has actually played SMRPG music, as cited by a visitor from this thread.

I'm sure there's more, but... it's just so much, man. I can't even keep track anymore, haha.

Bless you Banana Duck Bud. (I know that's not your pfp anymore but I like saying Banana Duck. )

Maybe I should do something like this for the Ninten thread since it's been a while since I've went all Ani's Conspiriacy Corner over there lulz.

 

[ForsakenM]

Not sure, but it'd definitely have to do with his rocket fists. That would be sick.

Also, happy SMRPG anniversary, y'all! The game's how old today? 23? 24? I don't remember, haha.

23 for Japan, and soon enough for us as well.

I'm feeling pessimistic and sad about Geno's potential for a return (including, but not solely, Smash), so I'm gonna fight that with a recap of a lot of good points that point to his and Mallow's return being more likely than just an abysmal impossibility.

• After the Smash ballot, Geno is acknowledged by Sakurai as being 'incredibly popular' and having a 'ton of votes'. He gets a Mii costume in Smash 4 as consolation so his fans at least feel like they got something.
• Considering that, the spirit is 'getting something'. However, it is arguably a large downgrade from the Mii outfit, going from visible representation in-fight to a PNG. The Mii outfit is not present, and given they'd be reselling something people already purchased in a prior game (something Nintendo has not done, i.e. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe having all DLC packed in), I don't know if they'll resell it and any of the other third party outfits excluded. Either they will, which I'm sure will result in backlash, or there are bigger plans to compensate.
• Sakurai has gone on record to say that he wants to do 'as much as he can' for Ultimate. DLC is far easier on him than developing a new game, meaning his health suffers far less. Him making more Ultimate DLC is preferable for all parties, as far as I can surmise, than working on another Smash game. Along with that, another installment within the next 6-ish years looks very unlikely, given the Switch is still early in its lifespan. Nintendo has stated multiple times that their plans are for the Switch to have a far longer life than the Wii U, and I think that it is very feasible. Fighter's Pass may well be all that we're getting, but it's also pretty likely that we'll get more.
• Since the ballot, SMRPG has been acknowledged a lot by Nintendo again. It's been mentioned on Twitter, in the Smash HQ quiz for the TGAs, allowed in Ultimate's base game, and referenced multiple times by Piranha Plant. There is also the YCW reference to Yo'ster Cookies, but that is more debatable. Prior to this, SMRPG was never, ever mentioned, apart from smaller properties like locations and Frogfucius being present in an old Scholastic's book in 2007 or 2008. (It's... one of those...)
• Something else I noticed is that, in 2014, Yoko Shimomura's best themes were rereleased in new, orchestrated format by Square Enix. This is also the first time SMRPG music has been featured at all in any official Square Enix albums, featuring Beware the Forest's Mushrooms and Goodbye, Geno. This is the first time Square themselves have acknowledged SMRPG in many years, and this was, timeline-wise, I think... either a little after or before the ballot? (Source)
• Promotional stuff for Ultimate keeps showing off Geno's spirit. This is a very minor point that probably means nothing, though. However, the 11.1 Direct + main menus in Ultimate showcase Geno's spirit. The most tinfoil hat thing about this is he's attached to Shulk in both instances, a character that can predict the future. That bit, however, is 99% purely coincidental.
• Geno is one of the few legendary spirits to have a profile picture, and of the Mario RPG spirits, I beliiiiieve his is the only profile picture representation?
• Geno fans are everywhere online. EVERYWHERE. Play online for a bit and I can guarantee you'll likely find multiple people with Geno profile pictures. His fan base is really showing their support by using his profile picture, that's for sure, and I can only imagine Nintendo would be able to see those statistics of profile picture usage.
• Alpha Dream has been working on something for the Switch for a few years, aligning a little after the Smash ballot. The evidence? They've released ports on the 3DS of prior M&L games, but many essential staff members are missing. Those higher-ups obviously aren't going to be without work, and I could see them learning Switch development tools and planning their next project. I forget the exact intricacies, but I believe there's also even more evidence somewhere that Alpha Dream made those ports as small side projects to hold off until their Switch debut, if not an outright implication / statement.
• Square has gone on record to say that they want to bring past games to the Switch, some of them being ports, some of them being remasters. This includes games that were not on Nintendo consoles prior (i.e. Final Fantasy 7), but it could likely include Nintendo-exclusives, as well. Guess which game is highly requested to get a remaster? Guess which company that makes Mario RPGs in the current day is filled with former Square staff who directed SMRPG? Mm-hmm. Worst case scenario is not getting SMRPG at all or even getting it solely on NSO. Maybe it could even be re-released as an eShop exclusive. Who knows?
• Super Mario-Kun got a SMRPG segment a little while after the ballot. It never had one before, but now, all of a sudden, it gets one? It's also the first time in over twenty years that Geno and Mallow have gotten major roles, even if only in an official Mario manga.
• SMRPG was on the SNES Classic. Square loves to re-release Chrono Trigger like you wouldn't believe, yet it gets excluded in the SNES Classic and SMRPG gets included?
• Nintendo has licensed use of SMRPG music for physical store locations. Nintendo Store in NYC has actually played SMRPG music, as cited by a visitor from this thread.

I'm sure there's more, but... it's just so much, man. I can't even keep track anymore, haha.

TFW you get down about your 23-yr-old-never-seen-again-really character's chances so you go over the majority of the facts to remind yourself that either something big is coming through the pipes or Nintendo is going to drop the ball so hard that you wonder if they were ever taught to dribble.

 

[Firox]

I'm still holding out hope for Geno, but I've learned my lesson that if you really want to avoid severe disappointment, you'll have to keep your expectations relatively low. That way, if he actually does show up, how much more unbelievably hype will it be? Remember, "The dawn is never brighter than after a moonless night."

 

[Deleted member]

This is all getting too exciting lol.

Also, I've been forgetting to say this, but Sakurai did find a way to reference SMRPG in Brawl. Imo it's not one of the most obvious references, but Mario's final smash was (and still is IIRC) actually based off of his fire ball move from SMRPG. Though it was called something different - Grand Finale - rather than what it was called in SMRPG

 

[Ovaltine]

This is all getting too exciting lol.

Also, I've been forgetting to say this, but Sakurai did find a way to reference SMRPG in Brawl. Imo it's not one of the most obvious references, but Mario's final smash was (and still is IIRC) actually based off of hif fire ball move from SMRPG. Though it was called something different - Grand Finale - rather than what it was called in SMRPG

SMRPG has also been referenced in Peach's move set, too. That's probably the heaviest SMRPG referencing we had until all of this stuff started happening, and it's only because that isn't anything copywritten by Square.

 

[Firox]

SMRPG has also been referenced in Peach's move set, too. That's probably the heaviest SMRPG referencing we had until all of this stuff started happening, and it's only because that isn't anything copywritten by Square.

What about Peach's moveset is from SMRPG? Just curious. I know the turnip and her midair hover are from Super Mario 2 and her tennis racket/golf club etc. is a reference to the many sports games she's been in, but what else?

 

[Ovaltine]

What about Peach's moveset is from SMRPG? Just curious. I know the turnip and her midair hover are from Super Mario 2 and her tennis racket/golf club etc. is a reference to the many sports games she's been in, but what else?

Her frying pan is used interchangeably with her racket and club, and that was one of her exclusive items in SMRPG. Her slapping attacks from prior Smash games are referencing the Slap Glove, her parasol was also an exclusive weapon, and heck, even her Final Smash is a bit of a reference. It's very subtle, moreso than Mario's, but it's the fact that her Final Smash is a healing one. Peach in SMRPG was generally a healer-type, not something we'd seen in any other appearance up until then, so it feels like an obvious nod.

 

[BoringName]

He y’all it’s SMRPG’s 23rd Anniversary sorta. so ima play SMRPG all weekend because I feel like it

 

[Firox]

Her frying pan is used interchangeably with her racket and club, and that was one of her exclusive items in SMRPG. Her slapping attacks from prior Smash games are referencing the Slap Glove, her parasol was also an exclusive weapon, and heck, even her Final Smash is a bit of a reference. It's very subtle, moreso than Mario's, but it's the fact that her Final Smash is a healing one. Peach in SMRPG was generally a healer-type, not something we'd seen in any other appearance up until then, so it feels like an obvious nod.

Oh wait! Didn't peach have a special where she dropped a bunch of sheep and put enemies to sleep? That would explain her final smash.

 

[Sovereign Trinity]

To all the wonderful ladies in here, happy international women's day.

 

[Firox]

To all the wonderful ladies in here, happy international women's day.

and props to our female cast members.