Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Necro Toad]

I don't know if someone already posted it in here, but Yoshi Crafted World has a Super Mario RPG explicit easter egg:
https://www.nintendoenthusiast.com/2019/02/18/nods-yoshis-crafted-world

Boshi confirmed guys!

Edit:
omg 800 pages, congrats!!!

 

[Deleted member]

For all we know it could be unrelated to the other rumor as far as what the article says since the other one was so vague.

Good lord though I’m sick of rumors. Nintendo saying they have the “Make everyone happy” title was vague enough at that’s an official post.

I think we might be entering rumorception.

Rumorception, leakbaitception, Vergebenception, DLCeption, Sakuraiception...

yeah I don't know where I got all this **** from

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I don't know if someone already posted it in here, but Yoshi Crafted World has a Super Mario RPG explicit easter egg:
https://www.nintendoenthusiast.com/2019/02/18/nods-yoshis-crafted-world

Boshi confirmed guys!

On a related note, it seems odd how they removed a feature from the multiplayer function.

 

[Deleted member]

800 pages!!!!!

 

[Eric2625]

800 pages!Congrats guys!

 

[GillyGrime]

Banjo is the most requested. That's what my point was.

I agree ignoring the others is silly.


I didn't make up the Smash 4 narrative at all. We know for sure that characters were made impossible due to 3DS' limitations. If Sakurai is bent on keeping her part of a tag team(which is quite possible, as she's not exactly hard to make otherwise, especially as an Echo alone. Or even a semi in 4), it's an actual fact it would be impossible in the 3DS version. It's quite possible it's the actual situation. It seems silly to dismiss this as impossible. Especially when she's still not in Ultimate, despite being a potential Echo or "easy to add". This narrative fits exactly what he planned to do with her. It's a reasonable theory and something people should keep in mind. Especially if she's still not DLC. Like, it's possible he changes his mind, but it's pretty odd how he has yet to. But once again, we know he's stubborn.


Nothing to disagree or agree on. That's just a possibility and may actually be the case. She was cut because she couldn't work as a tag team character(the sole reason he gave). She has yet to be in, with both cases literally being games where a Tag Team wouldn't work out as is. Either base(Ultimate, due to taking a lot more time than anyone else and thus was lower priority) or as is(3DS, because a tag team was impossible in that game). The theory fully holds up at this point. It doesn't mean it's right, just that there's literally zero evidence of why she hasn't been in otherwise. It's literally the only thing that can hold her back. It isn't relevance. It isn't being a clone/echo, because she is perfectly doable as that. The only thing that fits what Sakurai ever spoke of is that he wants to stick with a specific way to have her, and it hasn't been an option yet. In fact, it may never work anyway, since it wasn't just Brawl itself or any limitations. His ideal gameplay for her may just be too hard to work with. Which is all the more reason to drop the idea and just move on. This isn't like with Ice Climbers who he worked hard to make work on the 3DS, and it still didn't work out. They were already preset in Smash with a clear design. At least they had a good reason to split Zelda/Sheik up(besides the fact they were used like separate characters, which means them being split up wouldn't do much). Diddy being split up is only because he was coming in before Dixie ever would. He still worked. Dixie didn't as he wanted her to. Why he considers Diddy fine separate but apparently doesn't consider Dixie separate is hard to say. It could be caring too much about the original game designs, where Dixie was always a tag team character. It could be he considers this the best mechanic to represent her. It could be he doesn't think she's a necessity.

BTW, Metroid only has 4 characters because of an Echo. It's effectively meant to be 3 but had enough time. Dark Samus had no plans to be included beyond an Echo at any point. Dixie did, so her not being in yet possibly relates to his intentional plan. But as I said, dismissing a legitimate point when we know Sakurai is stubborn is silly. It doesn't matter how great Tropical Freeze is, or that Dixie evolved as a character. That doesn't change much of anything. If it's suspicious why Dixie isn't in yet, then there's your reason. He wants her to have a mechanic. It's not hard to see him being stubborn enough to take this all the way till it's possible or he's no longer making Smash. Just a possibly that needs to be accepted at this point.

And maybe you're right. All I'm saying is I'm not remotely convinced Sakurai wants Dixie but hasn't added due to tag-teaming being a constraint. That's where I disagree. I think it's way more likely he just doesn't see her as unique enough or feels the DK series is finely represented as it is. I respect your theory but it just seems a little too stretched for me, and that's where we're unlikely to agree on it. If she turns up with another Kong (please don't be Kiddy ew gross), then props for calling it early.

Edit: ALSO 800 PAGES <3

 

[Ovaltine]

The big eight-double-oh! That's so nuts. The amount of love for Geno has forged such an amazing community. We've seen some rough times, but our hopes are never gonna go down. Even if Geno isn't in Smash this time, my hopes for his future are very bright in general! I can't wait to see our boy rise again!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

800 pages, nice.

 

[EarlTamm]

800 pages! I should have been waiting here for this, but I was busy collecting some Smashboards related data.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

And maybe you're right. All I'm saying is I'm not remotely convinced Sakurai wants Dixie but hasn't added due to tag-teaming being a constraint. That's where I disagree. I think it's way more likely he just doesn't see her as unique enough or feels the DK series is finely represented as it is. I respect your theory but it just seems a little too stretched for me, and that's where we're unlikely to agree on it. If she turns up with another Kong (please don't be Kiddy ew gross), then props for calling it early.

Edit: ALSO 800 PAGES <3

...How is it stretched that he hasn't added her because he can't get his intended mechanic to work? That's pretty clear cut of a theory and fits how he acts extremely well. There's zero stretches here. It all fits with the development and various issues.

It's not about convincing that it's definitely the case. It's more likely what he actually said to be the case than actually making up stuff he never said nor acknowledged. He has not even spoken how she would be a tag team partner. She might've played near identically to Diddy. It doesn't change the hard fact she wasn't playable because she was impossible to get working during Brawl, strictly as a Tag Team character. It's extremely logical that he wants to keep the mechanic, but can't. I honestly think, if this is true, he should drop the mechanic since it's not worth it. He should still work on making her fun, and not just throwing her in as an Echo though. He already wanted to be faithful in the first place. No reason to change that factor, even if his original plans is changed.

 

[slopdop]

Congrats on 800!

 

[EarlTamm]

So, in celebration of this 800 page milestone, I have a question for you all(I know, how very unnatural of me). How many posts have you made on the Geno thread? My count is 1041(Counting this post as well).

 

[Datboigeno]

800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800

 

[MattX20]

800 pages is quite the milestone. Grats guys!

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Hoorary 800 pages! And yeah, Verde Coeden Scalesworth I understand what you mean and that post wasn't directly targeted at you, I hope that didn't come off the wrong way.

 

[Deleted member]

Man we've been crushing the records of the previous Geno threads.

I'm serious guys when I say I'm really feeling Geno in Smash and a remake of Super Mario RPG. I'm feeling it.

 

[SneakyLink]

Dropping in from the Banjo thread to say congrats on 800 pages!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Hoorary 800 pages! And yeah, Verde Coeden Scalesworth I understand what you mean and that post wasn't directly targeted at you, I hope that didn't come off the wrong way.

It's why I want Fulgore in the most for a Rare choice. Freaking awesome.

 

[Deleted member]

So, in celebration of this 800 page milestone, I have a question for you all(I know, how very unnatural of me). How many posts have you made on the Geno thread? My count is 1041(Counting this post as well).

I'm currently too lazy to count them all but I will eventually (unless there is something that counts them for you I am unaware of) lmao

 

[TheBeastHimself]

It's why I want Fulgore in the most for a Rare choice. Freaking awesome.

Killer Instinct representation would definitely be great to see!

 

[EarlTamm]

I'm currently too lazy to count them all but I will eventually (unless there is something that counts them for you I am unaware of) lmao.

There is actually. Go to the Newcomer Speculation page and hover your mouse over your tiny icon right next to the icon of the thread creator that is to the left side of every thread.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Killer Instinct representation would definitely be great to see!

Plus, a new kind of Counter Move that's more about breaking Combos than any move would be interesting. For that matter, "Ultraaaaaaaaaaa Comboooooooo!"

 

[GillyGrime]

I'm a full time lurker who's post count was previously shocking, but I pinky swear I've been lurking since day one

 

[EarlTamm]

It's why I want Fulgore in the most for a Rare choice. Freaking awesome.

I know one content creator I watch that would love Fulgore in Smash. I think some of us can guess who it is.

 

[Deleted member]

800 PAGE GANG

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I know one content creator I watch that would love Fulgore in Smash. I think some of us can guess who it is.

Besides me? No clue.

I don't visit the topic as much as I should.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Plus, a new kind of Counter Move that's more about breaking Combos than any move would be interesting. For that matter, "Ultraaaaaaaaaaa Comboooooooo!"

I'm personally not that well versed with Killer Instinct but hey, that's a great idea. It's better than making all the counters in Smash pretty much the same.

 

[Ingenious!]

800!! YEAA

 

[EarlTamm]

Besides me? No clue.

I don't visit the topic as much as I should.

I recall Maximilian Dood really wanting him in.

 

[Ze Diglett]

Speaking of Conker, which characters do you want to see in Smash other than your typical popular fan favourites?

For me, I'd absolutely love to see Aiai in Smash from Super Monkey Ball (preferably in his classic design). The first Super Monkey Ball was such an amazing launch title for the Gamecube, and the sequel was likewise fantastic. Even if he showed up as an assist trophy I'd be hyped.

You'd probably be able to guess from a post I made a few pages back, but Gooey from Kirby. I've lowkey wanted that lad in since the days of Brawl, though even back then, I knew it'd probably never happen. He's just so derpy and adorable! I will legit pop off if he ever gets confirmed, even more than Geno, probably.
On that note, holy 800 pages. I am now incredibly distraught that I've been following this thread for 799 of those pages.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I'm personally not that well versed with Killer Instinct but hey, that's a great idea. It's better than making all the counters in Smash pretty much the same.

Well, there's slight differences, like Lucario using Double Team. And some angles. But they still function mostly the same. The idea it'd only work during combo hits would make him an interesting counterpick against characters like Mario.

Plus, C-C-C-C-C-C-Combo Breaker!

I recall Maximilian Dood really wanting him in.

Ah, nice. Is he an Smashboards user?

 

[EarlTamm]

Ah, nice. Is he an Smashboards user?

I don't think so. I just know him as a Youtuber and Streamer.

 

[The Anigriffin]

800 pages? Damn... How many did the Brawl Geno thread have?

 

[Deleted member]

So, in celebration of this 800 page milestone, I have a question for you all(I know, how very unnatural of me). How many posts have you made on the Geno thread? My count is 1041(Counting this post as well).

180 (Now 181 after posting this)

 

[EarlTamm]

800 pages? Damn... How many did the Brawl Geno thread have?

441.

 

[Deleted member]

Happy 800 y'all.

Speaking of Conker, which characters do you want to see in Smash other than your typical popular fan favourites?

For me, I'd absolutely love to see Aiai in Smash from Super Monkey Ball (preferably in his classic design). The first Super Monkey Ball was such an amazing launch title for the Gamecube, and the sequel was likewise fantastic. Even if he showed up as an assist trophy I'd be hyped.

Not fan favorites, eh? Hmm...

• It was already touched upon in the thread, but representing Space Invaders in some way would be pretty sick. Its a defining arcade game. Why not?
• Mike Tyson from Mike Tyson's Punch Out would be hilarious and unironically awesome. A fantastic way to pay tribute to NES Punch Out.
• I want someone from Soul Calibur. It's not usually talked about from what I see, but I think the SC series is a strong Namco franchise that never really fails to bore me whenever I come back to it. I imagine they would go Nightmare if they chose a representative.
• Hat Kid's pretty adorable. Let's add her.
• If Bomberman gets in I want some alternate skins. Of course we should have the black, red, and blue colors, but then alternate costumes should come in at full force. Max should definitely be a part of Smash Bros as an alt.
• My dream pick is Sirius from Bomberman 64 but that guy is long dead. He's not even in Bomberman R.
• Viewtiful Joe would be pretty sick for a Capcom rep. Dude's been needing a third game for a while, anyways.
• If we're thinking a Kirby representative, Bandana Dee is the natural choice. However, my Kirby 64 nostalgia wants Adeline and Ribbon. Star Allies really revived them in an adorable fashion.
• Anyone remember Jill Dozer? That pink bunny assist trophy from Brawl? I remember her game and was shocked when she made it in as an AT. Wouldn't mind her being back even if she was an AT.
• Can we actually just redo Bowser Jr. to be more like Shadow Mario and ditch the Koopaling's thing altogether?
• Skull Kid is generally the most preferred next Zelda villain, but I'd like Vaati. Wind sorcerer hell bat? Let's do it.
• I saw someone mention Giygas from the Mother series, and I instantly fell in love with the idea. Masked Man, Porky, Kumatora, and Ninten are all nice, but I think Giygas is probably one of the most original ideas that wouldn't really borrow from any other Mother character in Smash, from design proportions, general personality, and moveset. It would be menacing as ****.

 

[Deleted member]

441.

Lmao and people are saying Geno Support is dying. It's Never been bigger! sure in some parts Geno is controversial but over-all it's never been better!

 

[GillyGrime]

Happy 800 y'all.



Not fan favorites, eh? Hmm...

• It was already touched upon in the thread, but representing Space Invaders in some way would be pretty sick. Its a defining arcade game. Why not?
• Mike Tyson from Mike Tyson's Punch Out would be hilarious and unironically awesome. A fantastic way to pay tribute to NES Punch Out.
• I want someone from Soul Calibur. It's not usually talked about from what I see, but I think the SC series is a strong Namco franchise that never really fails to bore me whenever I come back to it. I imagine they would go Nightmare if they chose a representative.
• Hat Kid's pretty adorable. Let's add her.
• If Bomberman gets in I want some alternate skins. Of course we should have the black, red, and blue colors, but then alternate costumes should come in at full force. Max should definitely be a part of Smash Bros as an alt.
• My dream pick is Sirius from Bomberman 64 but that guy is long dead. He's not even in Bomberman R.
• Viewtiful Joe would be pretty sick for a Capcom rep. Dude's been needing a third game for a while, anyways.
• If we're thinking a Kirby representative, Bandana Dee is the natural choice. However, my Kirby 64 nostalgia wants Adeline and Ribbon. Star Allies really revived them in an adorable fashion.
• Anyone remember Jill Dozer? That pink bunny assist trophy from Brawl? I remember her game and was shocked when she made it in as an AT. Wouldn't mind her being back even if she was an AT.
• Can we actually just redo Bowser Jr. to be more like Shadow Mario and ditch the Koopaling's thing altogether?
• Skull Kid is generally the most preferred next Zelda villain, but I'd like Vaati. Wind sorcerer hell bat? Let's do it.
• I saw someone mention Giygas from the Mother series, and I instantly fell in love with the idea. Masked Man, Porky, Kumatora, and Ninten are all nice, but I think Giygas is probably one of the most original ideas that wouldn't really borrow from any other Mother character in Smash, from design proportions, general personality, and moveset. It would be menacing as ****.

Mike Tyson is the only acceptable non-video game character for Smash (or Buzz Lightyear with a moveset based on the Toy Story 2 platformer, that **** was the bomb). Sorry Goku fans no dice.

 

[Deleted member]

Lmao and people are saying Geno Support is dying. It's Never been bigger! sure in some parts Geno is controversial but over-all it's never been better!

It really only goes up from here. We went from "Geno" being DLC to being a base game addition to Ultimate in the form of references and a powerful spirit. Can't deny that the dude came a long way.

 

[EarlTamm]

Mike Tyson is the only acceptable non-video game character for Smash (or Buzz Lightyear with a moveset based on the Toy Story 2 platformer, that **** was the bomb). Sorry Goku fans no dice.

What about Popeye?