Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[G0nard]

Okay so i have a friend of mine who's really hyped for Geno like he's REALLY hyped for Geno. I've been telling him about these recent posts and he's saying Its Geno, I'm tearing my hair out right now because i can't seem to think about what this news is, I was born in 1994. But i do wanna know for my friend who most likely will see this post IS IT GENO!!!

 

[EarlTamm]

I have not really disliked anything about this Smash so far, and I clearly am capable of liking characters from before my time, so I look forward to whatever this is.

 

[thirsty-pocket]

While on the topic... "Boomers" becoming the new word for "older millenials that are out of touch with gen z and younger millenials" is super weird, since actual Boomers are absolutely nothing like the people who get called that... they're more likely to care about the Atari 2600 and NES than the SNES and N64.

 

[AugustusB]

Guys, we have been so blind...

Spoiler

Playable Master Hand Mode

This is a joke btw :D

 

[alemerltoucanet]

Somebody really young, like born after 1997. gen z

I'm part of the Zoomer gang.
I bet this potential thing will be cool though. I loved Simon and Richter (that was probably because I've watched many playthroughs and reviews for their games, so yeahhh)

 

[The Anigriffin]

You are basing your argument on conditional evidence. You have nothing that proves that spirits can be changed in a blink of an eye, or that spirits and DLCs weren't planned alongside each other. You sound desperate to try to disprove this bc this puts your character at risk. I'm cheering just as you are, but facts don't care about feelings. We have at hand what Sakurai stated. That spirits are a replacement for trophies, and that fighters aren't normal spirits. They aren't equivalent bc their functions and class system are way different. Pit and Pikachu have spirits that aren't in the fighter class but are labeled as a variant of the original. Most of the characters that are spirits don't have that, and thus, would be deconfirmed due to consistency. Mewtwo and Lucas were trophies before they were decided to be DLC in the first place. Again, you seem to repeat a lot of points I counterargued and you haven't brought anything that is logically a disproval of anything I said. Also, there's even a detailed Gamefaqs post listing the things Sakurai said about fighter spirits and how they differ from normal spirits. You should check that out. All you need is a confirmation, that you don't have yet, that they would change the labelling of existing spirits. For now, we have to believe what we have in our hands.

On the topic of the hype news, is this regarding a character or a mode?
Would that be a Tetris character? Maybe something that defined Nintendo in the late 80s?



I honestly do think he's a viable candidate.

You didn't prove anything with your arguments either. All we're doing is arguing over semantics. Also fighter spirits were a last minute addition. Not to mention this implies extremely flimsy lore in a single player mode in a multiplayer game excludes 1,300 characters.

Sorry but that's extremely dumb.

 

[Krooli]

Mmm childhood memories like SMRPG...something zoomers would complain... it’s either Mistical Ninja Goemon or Earthworm Jim, that’s my bet

Yo Not gonna lie Earthworm Jim would actually Be kinda hype.

 

[owjies]

While on the topic... "Boomers" becoming the new word for "older millenials that are out of touch with gen z and younger millenials" is super weird, since Boomers are absolutely nothing like the people who get called that... they're more likely to care about the Atari 2600 and NES than the SNES and N64.

It's kinda growing on me a little. I'm right smack in the middle of the millenials, so I have one foot in the NES generation and another in the SNES. It's kinda weird. Getting older is no fun, but at the same time it's cool to say that I've experienced first hand the evolution of video games, the internet, and information technology in general given how pervasive it is in our society today.

 

[MajoraMan28]

Huh...
Maybe Metal Slug?
Mischief Makers also comes to mind. That and NiGHTS.
Going a bit back in time we have Tetris.
Hmmmmmmm

 

[Deleted member]

You are basing your argument on conditional evidence. You have nothing that proves that spirits can be changed in a blink of an eye, or that spirits and DLCs weren't planned alongside each other. You sound desperate to try to disprove this bc this puts your character at risk. I'm cheering just as you are, but facts don't care about feelings. We have at hand what Sakurai stated. That spirits are a replacement for trophies, and that fighters aren't normal spirits. They aren't equivalent bc their functions and class system are way different. Pit and Pikachu have spirits that aren't in the fighter class but are labeled as a variant of the original. Most of the characters that are spirits don't have that, and thus, would be deconfirmed due to consistency. Mewtwo and Lucas were trophies before they were decided to be DLC in the first place. Again, you seem to repeat a lot of points I counterargued and you haven't brought anything that is logically a disproval of anything I said. Also, there's even a detailed Gamefaqs post listing the things Sakurai said about fighter spirits and how they differ from normal spirits. You should check that out. All you need is a confirmation, that you don't have yet, that they would change the labelling of existing spirits. For now, we have to believe what we have in our hands.

On the topic of the hype news, is this regarding a character or a mode?
Would that be a Tetris character? Maybe something that defined Nintendo in the late 80s?



I honestly do think he's a viable candidate.

You also don't have anything to prove that spirits do deconfirm, and that GameFaqs post is confusing the DLC fighters with the current fighters. You also didn't make any new points. I'm not desperate to disprove this, because they don't deconfirm. You also have no way to prove that the DLC were decided along with the deciding of spirits. I have pretty much disproven all of your arguments, you don't know that labels can be changed. Mewtwo and Lucas were trophies in Smash 4 before they were DLC, and I would love a source on Mewtwo and Lucas being decided afterward. Nintendo is choosing the DLC, they aren't going to look through 1,297 characters to see if the character they suggested can't be used. You are making all of these statements under blind assumptions, and, for the 100th time, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF A SPIRIT IS LABELED DIFFERENTLY. If a character is the exact same character as a spirit and a playable character, then a playable character has a spirit, AND IT ISN'T A FIGHTER SPIRIT. Spirits don't deconfirm, you don't have a source to show that spirits were said to deconfirm, and Sakurai has actually confirmed that spirits don't deconfirm. They don't deconfirm the DLC, just accept it.

 

[Dan]

You're probably a zoomer if you're too young to remember watching Zoom on PBS in '99.

Guys, we have been so blind...

Spoiler

Playable Master Hand Mode

This is a joke btw :D

Really, what was the deal with that? I saw that screenshot.

 

[AugustusB]

Yo Not gonna lie Earthworm Jim would actually Be kinda hype.

If in the future a DLC trailer starts and before the character is shown we hear "Groovy!"

That would be hype.

 

[MajoraMan28]

You also don't have anything to prove that spirits do deconfirm, and that GameFaqs post is confusing the DLC fighters with the current fighters. You also didn't make any new points. I'm not desperate to disprove this, because they don't deconfirm. You also have no way to prove that the DLC were decided along with the deciding of spirits. I have pretty much disproven all of your arguments, you don't know that labels can be changed. Mewtwo and Lucas were trophies in Smash 4 before they were DLC, and I would love a source on Mewtwo and Lucas being decided afterward. Nintendo is choosing the DLC, they aren't going to look through 1,297 characters to see if the character they suggested can't be used. You are making all of these statements under blind assumptions, and, for the 100th time, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF A SPIRIT IS LABELED DIFFERENTLY. If a character is the exact same character as a spirit and a playable character, then a playable character has a spirit, AND IT ISN'T A FIGHTER SPIRIT. Spirits don't deconfirm, you don't have a source to show that spirits were said to deconfirm, and Sakurai has actually confirmed that spirits don't deconfirm. They don't deconfirm the DLC, just accept it.

 

[Deleted member]

And this proves that you don't have anything to disprove my statements

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Fatmanonice is it playable boss mode? Cause we already have hints in the code that's gonna happen.

 

[mbvswb]

the only character I can think of that fits the description ive read in this thread is master chief

 

[MajoraMan28]

And this proves that you don't have anything to disprove my statements

No, I just preffer going to sleep than talking to a wall. ^^
You depend on a future update for your spirits argument to be true. I don't discredit the possibility, but as it stands, to me it makes no sense to consider the Spirits theory to be false.
The class system for spirits and trophies will be different no matter what you try to convince yourself. If you want to know more about DLC planning, go research it yourself. I told you everything you need to know.

 

[Nazyrus]

You also don't have anything to prove that spirits do deconfirm…

…They don't deconfirm the DLC, just accept it.

That's a funny way to start and end the paragraph, lol. You just don't admit that you don't have proof then finish saying your point is valid.

I would just wait and see guys… we won't know what anything truly means until DLC proves or debunks such theories.

 

[Sigran101]

Maybe it's playable metal Mario? I could see them releasing an echo fighter with each unique fighter. Maybe metal Mario and Geno go together as both Mario series characters?

 

[MattX20]

Just 5 pages left and then we're officially tied with the old Brawl thread.

 

[MajoraMan28]

That's a funny way to start and end the paragraph, lol. You just don't admit that you don't have proof then finish saying your point is valid.

I would just wait and see guys… we won't know what anything truly means until DLC proves or debunks such theories.

Exactly! <3
All I'm saying is we'll have to wait and see, but looking at the current situation, this is what we can infer for now. Just wait and hope for the best.

 

[AugustusB]

Man all this talk and this song starts playing on my list. This makes me think of Fatmanonice and PolarPanda with all their information.

Spoiler: Weight of the World

Something big is coming and I don't think we or anyone in this forum is ready. I can feel it.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Well Spawn Wave might be hinting at a DQ character reveal at the VGAs.

This makes me worry a bit, however if he actually is hinting, this does seem to conflict with info PolarPanda has been receiving, and not even Vergeben is sure about who the SE character is.

I was also under the assumption that VGAs info was locked up tight, but idk.

 

[Deleted member]

That's a funny way to start and end the paragraph, lol. You just don't admit that you don't have proof then finish saying your point is valid.

I would just wait and see guys… we won't know what anything truly means until DLC proves or debunks such theories.

It's just that there are playable characters with spirits, which aren't fighter spirits, spirits replace trophies from Smash 4, Mewtwo and Lucas were trophies in Smash 4 before they were DLC, spirits don't deconfirm DLC, a lot of people on this thread have made that clear from all the evidence

 

[EarlTamm]

Just 5 pages left and then we're officially tied with the old Brawl thread.

Hopefully I will be awake before it reaches it.

 

[Sigran101]

Well Spawn Wave might be hinting at a DQ character reveal at the VGAs.

This makes me worry a bit, however if he actually is hinting, this does seem to conflict with info PolarPanda has been receiving, and not even Vergeben is sure about who the SE character is.

Source?

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

I'm gonna go out and say it; Dragon Quest rep would be worst timeline for me. Little to no interest; would honestly rather have the Space Invaders.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well Spawn Wave might be hinting at a DQ character reveal at the VGAs.

This makes me worry a bit, however if he actually is hinting, this does seem to conflict with info PolarPanda has been receiving, and not even Vergeben is sure about who the SE character is.

I was also under the assumption that VGAs info was locked up tight, but idk.

I don't really think Spawn Wave knows, he's probably just speculating

 

[paper roxy]

I'm gonna go out and say it; Dragon Quest rep would be worst timeline for me. Little to no interest; would honestly rather have the Space Invaders.

id rather have a tetromino (thats what theyre called, not tetris blocks) than dragon quest tbh. i used to feel the same about sora but at least sora has a fanbase for smash.

 

[AugustusB]

Well Spawn Wave might be hinting at a DQ character reveal at the VGAs.

This makes me worry a bit, however if he actually is hinting, this does seem to conflict with info PolarPanda has been receiving, and not even Vergeben is sure about who the SE character is.

I was also under the assumption that VGAs info was locked up tight, but idk.

I would like to see this hint. Is this along the lines when he "hinted" Sora before? Or is it a legit hint from him?

 

[TheCJBrine]

I just got my info from the Discussion thread, this page:
https://smashboards.com/threads/sma...on-begins-potential-spoilers.434391/page-8768

Specifically, a couple or so posts by TotsBS and one by Nekoo. I usually don't bother watching Spawn Wave myself. It was in a podcast.

 

[ChoccyStar]

I'm just going to list stuff people have been asking for forever:

>Home Run Mode
>Break the Targets
>Break the Targets creator
>Board the Platforms
>Board the Platforms creator
>Stage Builder
>Being able to play your own music in the game
>Playable Master Hand

Spoiler: Don't open

Which apparently is happening

Anything else?

 

[MajoraMan28]

I'm gonna go out and say it; Dragon Quest rep would be worst timeline for me. Little to no interest; would honestly rather have the Space Invaders.

To me, only Erdrick is of interest. The rest would be a waste, tbh.
DQ is one of the greatest classics in NES and SNES gaming, with great characters, plot and music. Don't throw this out because it might dethrone something you wanted. A lot of people went to Fire Emblem bc of Smash and fell in love with it. Same can be said about DQ. I for one know that the majority of the western Nintendo fanbase today has no idea of how good the games are, and aren't willing to give it a chance because there wasn't motivation for it.

 

[AugustusB]

I just got my info from the Discussion thread, this page:
https://smashboards.com/threads/sma...on-begins-potential-spoilers.434391/page-8768

Specifically, a couple or so posts by TotsBS and one by Nekoo. I usually don't bother watching Spawn Wave myself. It was in a podcast.

So speculation at best from what I was able to gather. Thought it would have been TotsBS lol.

 

[TheCJBrine]

The only other SE character I'd care about is Slime, and I haven't even played Dragon Quest (though maybe that's why I'd only care for Slime); maybe Crono, but I'm mostly interested in Chrono Trigger because of Robo and his theme of Never Gonna Give You Up (also the graphics' style is very nice).

 

[paper roxy]

To me, only Erdrick is of interest. The rest would be a waste, tbh.
DQ is one of the greatest classics in NES and SNES gaming, with great characters, plot and music. Don't throw this out because it might dethrone something you wanted. A lot of people went to Fire Emblem bc of Smash and fell in love with it. Same can be said about DQ. I for one know that the majority of the western Nintendo fanbase today has no idea of how good the games are, and aren't willing to give it a chance because there wasn't motivation for it.

from what ive played dragon quest is just another "navigate the menu, sitback and watch" rpgs and the only thing i saw that stood out was akira toriyamas character designs (mainly because so many of them look like other dragon ball characters). maybe ive just been spoiled by nintendo first party property rpgs but i cant stand rpgs that dont have any interactivity to keep me engaged while playing

 

[Retro18]

Fatmanonice is it playable boss mode? Cause we already have hints in the code that's gonna happen.

Wait what that's a thing? I get to play as Marx?

I'm just going to list stuff people have been asking for forever:

>Home Run Mode
>Break the Targets
>Break the Targets creator
>Board the Platforms
>Board the Platforms creator
>Stage Builder
>Being able to play your own music in the game
>Playable Master Hand

Spoiler: Don't open

Which apparently is happening

Anything else?

I wish I can put my own music in smash. An alt editor would also be good too.

 

[DaxMasterix]

So.. Brawl Thread Record?

 

[Deleted member]

No, I just preffer going to sleep than talking to a wall. ^^
You depend on a future update for your spirits argument to be true. I don't discredit the possibility, but as it stands, to me it makes no sense to consider the Spirits theory to be false.
The class system for spirits and trophies will be different no matter what you try to convince yourself. If you want to know more about DLC planning, go research it yourself. I told you everything you need to know.

You can't really say that you're arguments are true in any way, and I have proven that there are spirits with playable characters that aren't fighter spirits. Spirits don't deconfirm, but I have proved my argument many times, as well as many other people in this thread, but if you want to think they do, go ahead, I'm tired of trying to convince you. Btw, if you think you're talking to a wall, I have some news for you....

 

[The Anigriffin]

Personally, if Geno and Sora (With a Riku echo heh) aren't in, the only Square rep I'd actually like is the Chocobo just for the novelty of playing as a birb with a bulbous head.