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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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Being pessimistic or doubtful is fine. It only becomes a problem when you're a **** about it, which, from what I've seen, EricTheGamerman hasn't been.

There's a difference between saying "eh, I don't know about the character or that possible hint" and saying "OMG YOU ACTUALLY THINK THAT CHARACTER HAS A CHANCE HAHAHA WHAT A FOOL!"
 

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I mean I’m the one pushing this point/platform. So yeah, I’m going to keep bringing it up.

I think considering the possibility is helpful for discussion and realistic predictions of what might happen with the Square character. And I see nothing wrong with that (and yet again, I’ll point out that I think Geno has a very serious chance as DLC, I’m not disputing that either...)
Alright , Dragon quest , I can see it.

It's huge , lot of main games , lot of spin-off , myself I loved Monster Joker and DQ8. All it need is translation and you could get a FE situation. Their games are also already on Nintendo consoles. I wouldn't be mad if they got over Geno , because that mean more good RPGs on the Switch.

But Sora is a stupid choice for Nintendo.

Only 3 KH games for Nintendo , on handeld systems , wich have been remastered for others consoles (Chain of Memories , 358/2 days and Dream Drop Distance.).
Every other KH games are on Sony systems , the PS2/3/4.
No plan to bring KH3 for the Switch , the KH3 dev team said so. (And getting this ready for February 2019 or a secret KH game exclusive for the Switch? Sound unlikely.)
Except for the Big "Wowie KH in Smash" Sora bring nothing for Nintendo , worse , he promote a competitor's franchise.
Is a Disney rep , I'm not a Disney or Nintendo employee , but money wise , this look dangerous. Because if they want profit , It's DLCs sales + potential amiibo and that's it.

Sora would be betting on a small target audience (KH fans who are interested in Smash , so they probably have both a PS4 and a Switch) and Kotaku saying "OMG KH IN SMASH". Say what you want , but at least Geno fans more than probably own Nintendo system , and are a part of the Smash community. It's way less risky than Sora.
 

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The possibility of this has been considered a ton, I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You speak as if that idea has been shut down with no consideration.

It has been considered a ton and once people have thought about it we’ve come to the conclusion that Sora and DQ just don’t make nearly as much sense as Geno, for reasons stated ad nauseam the past 100 pages. So you asking people to consider it more without having any compelling reason to is wild. No one here is saying that those series have no shot, just that Geno makes way more sense.
And by making more sense, it doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
Although, I want to believe, if I got screw up then so be it.
 

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And by making more sense, it doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
Although, I want to believe, if I got screw up then so be it.
I think all of us is this thread are no strangers to being BTFO by questionable decisions in the series that haven’t made sense.

Pretty sure at least 90% of the people in this thread wouldn’t be at all shocked if Geno isn’t in. Angry? Yeah. Shocked? Nah.
 

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The whole point of discussing them is because we a lot of people see them as contenders. lmao
They are being discussed, just immediately shot down as a way to prop Geno’s chances up further. And in some ways that feels like a subtle dig on other characters in the discussion to me (i know that’s not always the intention, but it can come off as such and all fan bases deserve to be legitimate).

I spend time on different message boards and the number of people who use the exact opposite argument against us Geno supporters can sometimes be insane. Which is really why I don’t like the argument as a whole. And it’s almost always applied on a personal level when brought up like that.


Edit: Also, sorry if bringing up Geno’s chances is tiring for people. I don’t really know if there is much more to talk about right now, and I feel like the consideration of other choices has to be made when Verge is saying 7 are being considered and he doesn’t know. And all the rumors seem to just center on a Square character generally too but not a specific one. It just feels like the most most relevant discussion for now to me, but if you all are really that tired of it, I apologize for continuing to bring it up.
 
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They are being discussed, just immediately shot down as a way to prop Geno’s chances up further. And in some ways that feels like a subtle dig on other characters in the discussion to me (i know that’s not always the intention, but it can come off as such and all fan bases deserve to be legitimate).

I spend time on different message boards and the number of people who use the exact opposite argument against us Geno supporters can sometimes be insane. Which is really why I don’t like the argument as a whole. And it’s almost always applied on a personal level when brought up like that.
Then the way I see it is complety different from the way you are explaining it to me.
For me it's always a "I'm pretty sure Geno still have more chances THAN" and "Because of the following point".

For what is completty different to "Nah Geno is in, Sora not."

I'm so god damn new here so I can't speak about other circles but, I think you're taking "those arguments" so personally and misinterpreting them (or misunderstanding) that we always work with speculations, suggestions, fan theorys and/or simple fanappeals about this character.
 

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Then the way I see it is complety different from the way you are explaining it to me.
For me it's always a "I'm pretty sure Geno still have more chances THAN" and "Because of the following point".

For what is completty different to "Nah Geno is in, Sora not."

I'm so god damn new here so I can't speak about other circles but, I think you're taking "those arguments" so personally and misinterpreting them (or misunderstanding) that we always work with speculations, suggestions, fan theorys and/or simple fanappeals about this character.
Well, I have been around on this thread for a long while and I generally agree with what you think. I don't ever really recall the characters being "shot down," just that people thought about it and felt that Geno's inclusion made more sense.
 

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I’m really not that negative all things considering. I’m still here supporting Geno and I constantly bring up how I am actually satisfied with the base roster and the game overall. I’m incredibly hype actually and I adore Smash Bros. I also love Nintendo and my Switch eats up most of my gaming time (Currently Dark Souls lol, so maybe I just love the darkness).

Because I love them both, I’m more critical of them both. Because I want them to do better and it definitely feels like they make lots of mistakes. Complacency in the face of those mistakes is a HUGE issue. The whole be grateful mentality for a product consistently baffles me because we’re consumers. Nobody is entitled to anything except for the product we pay for. Nintendo is still a corporation at then end of the day, and expecting them to always act in our best interests of for the more hardcore fan is just not realistic. There are several great people at Nintendo who believe in better products and they do a great job with a lot of things, but they’re also human and **** up too (See Miyamoto and Star Fox Zero or Paper Mario for example). The company at large has always done some scummy things too (6 billions redesigns of the portables, Wii U games with embarrassing amounts of content like Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, their online basically every time around). They have issues like any other company and I want them to be better. I love people for who they are, not corporations and companies. Those can be changed and influenced with a loud enough voice that indicates something in their favor.

But I am a fairly realistic person leaning on the side of cynicism, and that means I’m often not going to be as optimistic about certain things. Especially because I generally ask for logical things. The number of people I encountered pre-November and Grinch who completely were illogical about the number of characters with Sakurai’s exact words in play against them baffled me, and whenever I tried to point out, hey what you’re saying is kind of unreasonable, I got called the hype police (and I was even advocating we’d get another Echo and unique than we got at the time).

Our Smash community can be relentlessly positive and constantly demand positivity about everything it feels like sometimes. I mean, that’s great and all, but it achieves two very different, but equally bad things:

1. It’s just worst for real discussion when entire viewpoints are neglected and you can’t have real discussion about a character’s chances or situation because people perceive you as being toxic, hype police, or overly negative.
2. We become a massive Echo chamber that feels like objectively have this and that, when it’s like most internet related things in that we have sought out reaffirmation in our particular tastes. That reaffirmation is always going to skew our perceptions inadvertently because that’s what being a part of any community does that believe one collective idea.

None of this is necessarily specifically to be leveraged at this thread. But more SmashBoards in general I suppose. It’s the cost of not allowing true toxicity, **** posting, etc. like GameFAQs I know, but sometimes it does feel like things swing too much in the opposite direction.

Again, to be clear, Geno is still my most wanted character at the moment. I still think he’s a really cool pick and he represents an amazing amount of support and continued love for a minor and unlikely character. I will continue to love and support him for the near future for Ultimate in the ways I see fit. I have always maintained that he had a very good chance for the game. But that’s still a chance and a long way from being a lock.

Where I think negativity gets perceived is when I bring up hey, there are things we maybe aren’t considering as much as we should in terms of competition (Sora, DQ, etc.), or that we overstate some things with regards to Geno’s popularity and importance. And I still believe both of those things and generally have things to point to for both in terms of logic to back them up.

I think Geno is an extremely rare case of a one-off, side character becoming popular within a community of dedicated fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I don’t think he’s important to anything or anyone but us as the fans (Super Mario RPG is important, not individual characters created for the game) and potentially Sakurai. Those are where his chances as a character lie, and those are still amazingly better than they ever should because of that support from the community and Sakurai himself.
I can appreciate this position. You could say that SSBU is this marvel, and really having anything like it is a blessing everyone should be thankful for. But I’m with you in that, it’s not like anyone is doing this for free; and if that’s the case, feedback is appropriate.

The other thing is that, when someone really likes something, it’s not unusual for them to criticize it, especially if it’s out of a desire to make it better. The desire to make things better is a positive trait. In recent times there’s this pervasive idea that any complaining is some form of entitlement, which has turned to have an extremely negative connotation. But there’s a big difference between being ungracious and having an opinion on something.

I don’t think your ideas are outrageous and I’m glad for the variety of thought. Conversation is hard on the internet when conveying intent isn’t as easy as it is in person (which isn’t always easy anyway).
 

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Something I found interesting, King K. Rool appeared as a villain in the comic Donkey Kong in When the Banana Splits which was published in the Disney Adventures magazine in 2000. Obviously that was years ago, but I just wanted to show another example of Nintendo and Disney working together since I know Sora was a topic of debate here not too long ago.
 

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I'm insure about this , but Sakurai said that he used the ballot for the newcomers (he already said so for King K Rool) and... It seem that he used it as well for DLC ? I'm pretty tired , and english isn't my first language. Could someone clarify this please?
 

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Something I found interesting, King K. Rool appeared as a villain in the comic Donkey Kong in When the Banana Splits which was published in the Disney Adventures magazine in 2000. Obviously that was years ago, but I just wanted to show another example of Nintendo and Disney working together since I know Sora was a topic of debate here not too long ago.
But these are recent times we are talking about. We already covered that Bowser was in Wreck it Ralph 1 which could be an argument that Disney and Nintendo are working together. Heck they ever name dropped Mario in the movie. However, Wreck it Ralph 2 has no trace of Mario references at all when all the other gaming properties came back. They even gave Sonic extended screen time and the movie isn't even about gaming.


The only on going collaboration between Nintendo and Disney throughout Ultimate's development until now has been Smash Bros at Evo being on DXD as well as another event. But the channel is not shy about covering their competitors either. They probably just see it as "Kids love gaming. Let's go ahead and show the new DMC trailer, OWL and some PUBG play through while we are having this small Mario Kart series." It doesn't seem Nintendo exclusive.
 

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I wonder whether or not Sakurai would see Geno as a widely recognizable character.

He said he gets "a lot of requests" and that he's "really popular," plus the game had a little over 2 million sales on the SNES alone and he's technically a Mario character, but I don't know.

I mean, as we already know he makes exceptions, I just wonder...

(mainly wondering because of what he said about characters in a recent interview, although he mentioned how people were probably wondering who Richter was in an interview about the 8/8 Direct...)
 
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If there is something at VGA, I think I can see it more of a T pose for the first character, a lot like the Mewtwo announcement back in Smash 4. I highly, highly doubt any gameplay or cinematics since both of those take time to develop and the DLC characters have been recently decided on.
 

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If there is something at VGA, I think I can see it more of a T pose for the first character, a lot like the Mewtwo announcement back in Smash 4. I highly, highly doubt any gameplay or cinematics since both of those take time to develop and the DLC characters have been recently decided on.
The character shall assume dominance on the crowd
 

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Something I found interesting, King K. Rool appeared as a villain in the comic Donkey Kong in When the Banana Splits which was published in the Disney Adventures magazine in 2000. Obviously that was years ago, but I just wanted to show another example of Nintendo and Disney working together since I know Sora was a topic of debate here not too long ago.
Donkey Kong Country (the animated series) was also shown on ABC and The Disney Channel.
 

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I'll go ahead and say it: the Geno fanbase is pretty inspirational in its own right. Not enough to get its own Disney movie "based on a true story" adaptation but enough that we're kind of a pillar of the Smash community. A 22 year old character that has had a visible fanbase campaigning for him for the last 13 largely because SMRPG meant that much to their childhood/teenage years. That's pretty great no matter how you slice it.

Add in: Also, I don't think it was any coincidence that the Wii Virtual Console got SMRPG in 2008 and the Wii U VC in late 2015/early 2016. Whether you all feel like it or not, this fanbase has had a positive impact.
The only reason Geno got a Mii costume and is a top contender for Smash now is BECAUSE of the fanbase. That's pretty much the sole reason, and that's amazing.
 

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After Sakurai’s interview, where he basically explains that Piranha Plant got in as DLC because it had to be a character that everyone knew (and therefore, would sell), I’m not feeling confident in Geno. I mean, Nintendo appears to think that sales=fame (which I guess I can’t blame them for, but is also not completely true within Smash).
 

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After Sakurai’s interview, where he basically explains that Piranha Plant got in as DLC because it had to be a character that everyone knew (and therefore, would sell), I’m not feeling confident in Geno. I mean, Nintendo appears to think that sales=fame (which I guess I can’t blame them for, but is also not completely true within Smash).
you do know that plays in genos favor right?
 

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After Sakurai’s interview, where he basically explains that Piranha Plant got in as DLC because it had to be a character that everyone knew (and therefore, would sell), I’m not feeling confident in Geno. I mean, Nintendo appears to think that sales=fame (which I guess I can’t blame them for, but is also not completely true within Smash).
He didn’t say that at all, though. He said that Piranha Plant is more recognizable than protagonists from more obscure series, nothing about that influencing specific DLC choices, or any mention of DLC in the first place, besides a reminder of it being an offer.
 
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After Sakurai’s interview, where he basically explains that Piranha Plant got in as DLC because it had to be a character that everyone knew (and therefore, would sell), I’m not feeling confident in Geno. I mean, Nintendo appears to think that sales=fame (which I guess I can’t blame them for, but is also not completely true within Smash).
That's not what he said at all. He was juxaposing how most of the unexpected and weird characters have come from equally obscure and unexpected franchises and he basically wanted to do a weird and unexpected character from a popular franchise for a change.
 

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That's not what he said at all. He was juxaposing how most of the unexpected and weird characters have come from equally obscure and unexpected franchises and he basically wanted to do a weird and unexpected character from a popular franchise for a change.
Yep, he also said that it's important to include characters that are not typical, "heroes and heroines," because it adds more variety to the roster. I think this is a really important insight because it shows that age old, "Geno is not the protagonist of Mario RPG," argument really doesn't matter all that much, which is something that we've all felt all these years. It shows that characters can make it into Smash for all sorts of reasons.
 

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you do know that plays in genos favor right?
How?

He didn’t say that at all, though. He said that Piranha Plant is more recognizable than protagonists from more obscure series, nothing about that influencing specific DLC choices, or any mention of DLC in the first place, besides a reminder of it being an offer.
I think the fact that he mentioned Piranha Plant being a more recognizable character and immediately after mentioning he’s DLC leads me to think it being recognizable played a part in getting picked. While we don’t know if that criteria will go on for the rest, if it does it’s not good news for us.

That's not what he said at all. He was juxaposing how most of the unexpected and weird characters have come from equally obscure and unexpected franchises and he basically wanted to do a weird and unexpected character from a popular franchise for a change.
Whoa whoa whoa buddy, I recommend you take another look at the interview. In no place does Sakurai mention he wanted to do that for a change, nor does it imply that. Please don’t spread misinformation.
 

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I have read the interview and owjies owjies post after mine is spot on. Sakurai doesn't always want to do main characters or expected ones. Pirhana Plant is the opposite of both. It's a common well known enemy but totally unexpected. Sakurai values the weird not because of their novelty but what they can bring to the table as a fighter.
 

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I think the fact that he mentioned Piranha Plant being a more recognizable character and immediately after mentioning he’s DLC leads me to think it being recognizable played a part in getting picked. While we don’t know if that criteria will go on for the rest, if it does it’s not good news for us.



Whoa whoa whoa buddy, I recommend you take another look at the interview. In no place does Sakurai mention he wanted to do that for a change, nor does it imply that. Please don’t spread misinformation.
That offer mention looked like more of a “don’t forget” kind of thing, he didn’t even use the terms “DLC” or “downloadable content” at all.
 

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Yep, he also said that it's important to include characters that are not typical, "heroes and heroines," because it adds more variety to the roster. I think this is a really important insight because it shows that age old, "Geno is not the protagonist of Mario RPG," argument really doesn't matter all that much, which is something that we've all felt all these years. It shows that characters can make it into Smash for all sorts of reasons.
Exactly. Even though I do consider Geno the main protagonist, Sakurai may have a different view on him as a secondary protagonist or just a casual character in the game. At least those arguments can finally be put to an end. Then there's the saying of "he only appears in one game"... I mean, the Duck Hunt trio and Lucas only appeared in one game, so I don't see the problem here. Pit was irrelevant when Brawl came out, the last game he appeared in before Brawl was a Kid Icarus game back in 1991. Then we have King K. Rool, where King K. Rool hasn't appeared since 2008 in a Mario spin-off game, Mario Super Sluggers; it just shows that relevancy doesn't matter to Sakurai. If we did get Geno in Brawl, he would've been in the same irrelevancy category as Pit; one hasn't been used in 17 years, and the other hasn't been used in 12 years. I also believe Geno counts as a retro rep. I remember hearing about Sakurai saying that whenever he hears Geno, he's referred to as a retro character. The SNES is a retro console, so in this case, Geno is somewhat a retro rep representing the SNES and Mario RPG series.

It seems that King K. Rool and Geno have a lot in common:
-Both started their careers on the SNES.
-Both are considered irrelevant characters.
-Nintendo hasn't used King K. Rool since 2008, Retro Studios doesn't use him at all; Square doesn't use Geno at all and they haven't since 1996.
-Both have been highly requested Smash characters since the Melee and Brawl days.
 

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If there is something at VGA, I think I can see it more of a T pose for the first character, a lot like the Mewtwo announcement back in Smash 4. I highly, highly doubt any gameplay or cinematics since both of those take time to develop and the DLC characters have been recently decided on.
I have some hopes for VGAs, after they announced they have the 'biggest' lineup of reveals for 'massive' franchises. Honestly, since we know hardly anything about future switch titles AFTER Ultimate, I'll be excited no matter what the news is. But if there are multiple things Nintendo reveals, I'd definitely expect Smash DLC.
 

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After Sakurai’s interview, where he basically explains that Piranha Plant got in as DLC because it had to be a character that everyone knew (and therefore, would sell), I’m not feeling confident in Geno. I mean, Nintendo appears to think that sales=fame (which I guess I can’t blame them for, but is also not completely true within Smash).
And then he also literally said "In the past titles in the series, Mr. Game & Watch, R.O.B. and Duck Hunt Dog were some of the examples we offered outside of people’s typical expectations. However, if we don’t have these types of fighters, and we only had typical “hero/heroine” type fighters in the lineup, there’s not much difference. It’s probably not very interesting. Correct? "

So uh, nice cherrypicking?

Also, with regards to your comment about selling well, he also says "Piranha Plant is a character everyone knows well. And, I want to make sure to remind everyone that it is a limited-time offer fighter everyone can get for free ". Yeah that really sounds to me like they chose Piranha Plant for big sales numbers.

This interview shouldn't change anyone's opinion on anything, because it is basically saying nothing new

thank u, next
 
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Exactly. Even though I do consider Geno the main protagonist, Sakurai may have a different view on him as a secondary protagonist or just a casual character in the game. At least those arguments can finally be put to an end. Then there's the saying of "he only appears in one game"... I mean, the Duck Hunt trio and Lucas only appeared in one game, so I don't see the problem here. Pit was irrelevant when Brawl came out, the last game he appeared in before Brawl was a Kid Icarus game back in 1991. Then we have King K. Rool, where King K. Rool hasn't appeared since 2008 in a Mario spin-off game, Mario Super Sluggers; it just shows that relevancy doesn't matter to Sakurai. If we did get Geno in Brawl, he would've been in the same irrelevancy category as Pit; one hasn't been used in 17 years, and the other hasn't been used in 12 years. I also believe Geno counts as a retro rep. I remember hearing about Sakurai saying that whenever he hears Geno, he's referred to as a retro character. The SNES is a retro console, so in this case, Geno is somewhat a retro rep representing the SNES and Mario RPG series.

It seems that King K. Rool and Geno have a lot in common:
-Both started their careers on the SNES.
-Both are considered irrelevant characters.
-Nintendo hasn't used King K. Rool since 2008, Retro Studios doesn't use him at all; Square doesn't use Geno at all and they haven't since 1996.
-Both have been highly requested Smash characters since the Melee and Brawl days.
I really wish that people would stop trying to put Geno on the same pedestal as other characters like K. Rool, who has appeared in far more games, was the main villain, and starred in a cartoon. If Geno is truly worthy of being in Smash, he should be able to stand on his own merits without taking the spotlight from someone else.
 
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I really wish that people would stop trying to put Geno on the same pedestal as other characters like K. Rool, who has appeared in far more games, was the main villain, and starred in a cartoon. If the character is truly worthy of being in Smash, it should be able to stand on its own merits.
Have you taken a glance at the Smash Bros roster?

Edit: Don't take this as me saying Geno is as popular as K. Rool. Just that's a horrible argument you just made
 
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Have you taken a glance at the Smash Bros roster?
What does that have to do with anything? I'm just saying that if Geno is truly special, then why do people feel the need to compare him to other characters that aren't in the same situation as he is? Geno is a character that is unlike anyone else in the Mario series. Despite being absent for many years, he still has a cult following and plenty of uniqueness to offer to the roster. You should focus on those points when advocating for the character. There's no need to bring K. Rool into this.
 
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What does that have to do with anything? I'm just saying that if Geno is truly special, then why do people feel the need to compare him to other characters that aren't in the same situation as he is? Geno is a character that is unlike anyone else in the Mario series. Despite being absent for many years, he still has a cult following and plenty of uniqueness to offer to the roster. Focus on those points when advocating for the character. There's no need to bring K. Rool into this.
There is a difference between general popularity and smash bros fan demand. Geno isn't nearly as popular as K. Rool, but the demand for him to be in Smash is absolutely comparable

Also, I haven't specifically "brought K. Rool into this", so you must be referring to someone else. I was just responding to something incorrect that you stated
 
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There is a difference between general popularity and smash bros fan demand. Geno isn't nearly as popular as K. Rool, but the demand for him to be in Smash is absolutely comparable

Also, I haven't specifically "brought K. Rool into this", so you must be referring to someone else. I was just responding to something incorrect that you stated
I was referring to someone else. Also, I wouldn't say Geno has had as much demand as K. Rool overall. People have always supported K. Rool for every Smash game while support for Geno dropped drastically during Smash 4 until his Mii costume was revealed and the news about Sakurai acknowledging Geno's popularity came out. I don't want to discourage anyone about Geno's chances. I just feel like there might be some sort of disconnect between Geno's popularity online and reality, and it feels like some people are twisting Sakurai's words to make it seem like Geno has a higher chance when it's still the same as before. This isn't exclusive to Geno, either. Many character support threads are guilty of doing the same thing.
 
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GoodGrief741

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And then he also literally said "In the past titles in the series, Mr. Game & Watch, R.O.B. and Duck Hunt Dog were some of the examples we offered outside of people’s typical expectations. However, if we don’t have these types of fighters, and we only had typical “hero/heroine” type fighters in the lineup, there’s not much difference. It’s probably not very interesting. Correct? "

So uh, nice cherrypicking?

Also, with regards to your comment about selling well, he also says "Piranha Plant is a character everyone knows well. And, I want to make sure to remind everyone that it is a limited-time offer fighter everyone can get for free ". Yeah that really sounds to me like they chose Piranha Plant for big sales numbers.

This interview shouldn't change anyone's opinion on anything, because it is basically saying nothing new

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But... the other statement doesn’t really teach us anything new, does it?

I guess you could say the idea of adding variety helps Geno, but it helps basically every character that isn’t the main character of a big Nintendo franchise. So, basically, everyone but Spring Man.

And Piranha Plant does have to do with big sales numbers. The whole idea of limited time free DLC is to push people to buy and register the game early. So the purpose isn’t to sell Piranha Plant itself, but drive sales for the game more quickly.

I mean, you didn’t believe free DLC was an innocent free gift for us, right?
 

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But... the other statement doesn’t really teach us anything new, does it?
That is literally what I said in my post and entirely my point. There is nothing new from the latest interview.

Also, do you really think Piranha Plant is going to make people buy the game who wouldn't have otherwise? LOL. Piranha Plant doesn't even give close to the incentive that Mewtwo did to buy the game early
 

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But... the other statement doesn’t really teach us anything new, does it?

I guess you could say the idea of adding variety helps Geno, but it helps basically every character that isn’t the main character of a big Nintendo franchise. So, basically, everyone but Spring Man.

And Piranha Plant does have to do with big sales numbers. The whole idea of limited time free DLC is to push people to buy and register the game early. So the purpose isn’t to sell Piranha Plant itself, but drive sales for the game more quickly.

I mean, you didn’t believe free DLC was an innocent free gift for us, right?
It is a gift when its the biggest game on the system for the holiday system. I don't feel like there would be that much of a difference in sales numbers, and Piranha Plant is certainly not a character that people would naturally say "Oh, I can't have this game without him!"
 
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