domriver
Smash Lord
So remember when I said not to go for a reach and break yall's arms.
I just realized that the person who Geno was an icon of literally was playing Shulk.
Shulk who has visions of the future.
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So remember when I said not to go for a reach and break yall's arms.
I just realized that the person who Geno was an icon of literally was playing Shulk.
Shulk who has visions of the future.
klaptrap deconfirmed, honestly disgraceful that nintendo would take such an insignificant and unwanted character like geno over what we've been asking years for.So remember when I said not to go for a reach and break yall's arms.
I just realized that the person who Geno was an icon of literally was playing Shulk.
Shulk who has visions of the future.
Lol, Geno is what we've been asking for for years now, it is clear you know nothing of the Smash communityklaptrap deconfirmed, honestly disgraceful that nintendo would take such an insignificant and unwanted character like geno over what we've been asking years for.
Woosh. In all seriousness though I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. I was clearly joking.Lol, Geno is what we've been asking for for years now, it is clear you know nothing of the Smash community
Oh, my apologies, I thought you were being serious lolWoosh. In all seriousness though I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. I was clearly joking.
(You)klaptrap deconfirmed, honestly disgraceful that nintendo would take such an insignificant and unwanted character like geno over what we've been asking years for.
Geno has been wanted for years lol and he isn't unwanted he no longer has a smaller minority if fans anymore brawl was a small minority who wanted him, during DLC his spike in smash fan request went up, it definitely did more with ultimate. You don't always have to play a game to want a character there can be other reasons, I've heard some say, his design is cool, or they heard the super mario rpg waltz through the forest maze song on YouTube, they like the music from his game and want him in so they can hear remixes of it, like his design, a cool character, played the game and want him in,etc. "Oh he isn't wanted for anything else but smash so that's why he is insignificant" So? Most people these days only know captain falcon from smash bros same with lucas and ness. It isn't bad to be known from just smash nor is not is being known by the world. Why? You ask, because as long as he is known for the game that people want him in that's all that matters and he already proven his fanbase isn't tiny anymore. Plus many didn't know who marth was to the west and some for captain falcon but looked what happened. People now know of fire emblem in the west and captain falcon is known for being in smash and for some his actual game. Well ignore this because i read the comment that you were joking, however keep in mind this is the internet where we can't see your facial expressions or your tone if voice which are real ways to tell if someone is being sarcastic.klaptrap deconfirmed, honestly disgraceful that nintendo would take such an insignificant and unwanted character like geno over what we've been asking years for.
I agree with you man. He was actually just kidding thoughGeno has been wanted for years lol and he isn't unwanted he no longer has a smaller minority if fans anymore brawl was a small minority who wanted him, during DLC his spike in smash fan request went up, it definitely did more with ultimate. You don't always have to play a game to want a character there can be other reasons, I've heard some say, his design is cool, or they heard the super mario rpg waltz through the forest maze song on YouTube, they like the music from his game and want him in so they can hear remixes of it, like his design, a cool character, played the game and want him in,etc. "Oh he isn't wanted for anything else but smash so that's why he is insignificant" So? Most people these days only know captain falcon from smash bros same with lucas and ness. It isn't bad to be known from just smash nor is not is being known by the world. Why? You ask, because as long as he is known for the game that people want him in that's all that matters and he already proven his fanbase isn't tiny anymore. Plus many didn't know who marth was to the west and some for captain falcon but looked what happened. People now know of fire emblem in the west and captain falcon is known for being in smash and for some his actual game.
Yeah i know he was joking i was just adding that u found out he was joking.I agree with you man. He was actually just kidding though
He's more like Katakuri because unlike Luffy, Katakuri can see into the future. lolyo be monkey d luffy for how far your reaching my guy.
Not trying to be rude, but I thought I was being clear. Maybe I was wrong though. Seriously though, think about it. Why would anyone posting in a thread filled with Geno supporters be calling Geno an "unwanted" character that no one asked for? Plus, no one would take that Shulk thing seriously enough to think that this confirms Geno and deconfirms Klaptrap. Sorry for making you write all of this I guess, hah.Geno has been wanted for years lol and he isn't unwanted he no longer has a smaller minority if fans anymore brawl was a small minority who wanted him, during DLC his spike in smash fan request went up, it definitely did more with ultimate. You don't always have to play a game to want a character there can be other reasons, I've heard some say, his design is cool, or they heard the super mario rpg waltz through the forest maze song on YouTube, they like the music from his game and want him in so they can hear remixes of it, like his design, a cool character, played the game and want him in,etc. "Oh he isn't wanted for anything else but smash so that's why he is insignificant" So? Most people these days only know captain falcon from smash bros same with lucas and ness. It isn't bad to be known from just smash nor is not is being known by the world. Why? You ask, because as long as he is known for the game that people want him in that's all that matters and he already proven his fanbase isn't tiny anymore. Plus many didn't know who marth was to the west and some for captain falcon but looked what happened. People now know of fire emblem in the west and captain falcon is known for being in smash and for some his actual game. Well ignore this because i read the comment that you were joking, however keep in mind this is the internet where we can't see your facial expressions or your tone if voice which are real ways to tell if someone is being sarcastic.
I couldn't agree more with you. I am more of a recent Geno fan myself, but he is the only new character I have ever wanted in a Smash game (well, and a new Mother series rep)I'm just like how I was when the last Smash came out. My attitude is "ok cool." I'm excited that King K. Rool is finally getting in. And the Belmonts too. It's nice to see the guys from my era make it. But without Geno, it's as if he wasn't invited to the big party.
Luffy learned to see into the future from fighting Katakuri. But considering the sorry state he's in right now, I'd say it's probably Katakuri too.He's more like Katakuri because unlike Luffy, Katakuri can see into the future. lol
But you're right, his knowledge has extended as long as Luffy's arms can go!
Except your sales figure includes SNES classic sales and I’ve alrwady discussed why that’s super problematic and not representative of a game’s sales at all. The objective sales figures you keep referring to actually paint Kingdom Hearts in a better light as that only refers to the initial PS2 release and doesn’t account for the additional rereleased which sold upwards of 2 million each. By that logic Kingdom Hearts has still outsold Super Mario RPG.This is just anecdotal evidence though and doesn't really reflect objective data like the sales figures for SMRPG that have been posted several times now.
Again, no it doesn't according to the sales data that has been posted on this thread. Also
"Geno, who is a late party member in Super Mario RPG."
Wut. You get Geno before Bowyer who is the second boss. He joins the party before Peach and Bowser...
Uhhh.... I don't think anyone here is trying to "devalue" anything. We're just pointing out that SMRPG is actually more popular and less niche than people have been making it out to be when you look at things like sales. Obviously the fan community around Geno has been important regarding him getting attention considering he's only shown up (twice if you count the cameo) and more people finding out about the game, but let's not act like SMRPG was a super obscure title that no one played. If anything that plays more into the "relevancy" argument that really doesn't do Geno any favors.
I don't want this to become a huge talk about One Piece, and I know Luffy, too, can see the future, but isn't Katakuri's future sight more advanced than Luffy's?Luffy learned to see into the future from fighting Katakuri. But considering the sorry state he's in right now, I'd say it's probably Katakuri too.
I mean, yeah, that’s what the individuals sales data tells us and that’s what I want us to work with and be consistent without attributing 2/3 of a sales figure to SNES Classic sales. That’s exactly what I’m taking issue with. But again Kingdom Hearts has had 9 games to establish itself in the eyes of different markets and fans vs Super Mario RPG’s much more limited status as a single game.So SMRPG (ignoring Virtual Console) beat every Kingdom Hearts game except for 1 and 2.
It's mostly the Grinch leak's fault. One guy deciding to mess with thousands of people for jollies. Some of said people not even being malicious, either.I want to believe that Nintendo is gonna have fan favorite characters as DLC such as Banjo Kazooie, Geno etc. It would just make sense, from a business perspective, to have highly requested characters be paid DLC. Of course, they might not do it and I shoudn't bring my expectations up high, considering that it sets up everything for disaster. We expected so much out of this direct, which is the only reason for any negativity we would be feeling right now. Anyways, I'm just excited for Smash.
There's two different outcomes:I want to believe that Nintendo is gonna have fan favorite characters as DLC such as Banjo Kazooie, Geno etc. It would just make sense, from a business perspective, to have highly requested characters be paid DLC. Of course, they might not do it and I shoudn't bring my expectations up high, considering that it sets up everything for disaster. We expected so much out of this direct, which is the only reason for any negativity we would be feeling right now. Anyways, I'm just excited for Smash.
Yeah, definitely. I never had any faith in the Grinch leak. It just seemed too good to be true, and I knew that the consequences of getting dissapointed because of it were going to be detrimental. And that would be bad, considering it would blind us to everything we've already been given that's already made us happy.It's mostly the Grinch leak's fault. One guy deciding to mess with thousands of people for jollies. Some of said people not even being malicious, either.
The best way to do things is to go into any announcement not being sure what to expect. It's worked for me before, it can work again.
I remember someone claiming that they could see K. Rool being DLC before the 8/8 Direct, for the sole reason of making extra money off him because he was so requested. That obviously didn't happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were going this route with Geno, ESPECIALLY because he's third party.I want to believe that Nintendo is gonna have fan favorite characters as DLC such as Banjo Kazooie, Geno etc. It would just make sense, from a business perspective, to have highly requested characters be paid DLC. Of course, they might not do it and I shoudn't bring my expectations up high, considering that it sets up everything for disaster. We expected so much out of this direct, which is the only reason for any negativity we would be feeling right now. Anyways, I'm just excited for Smash.
I would say this is a fair point, but I don't think there is a specific different between physical or VC. Sure Super Mario RPG in this case had 5 to 6 year head start in recognition, however the Playstation 2 which Kingdom Hearts was on, had a life span that lasted 13 years. That's 11 years where Kingdom Hearts was commonly available within stores whether they were Targets or your smaller niche electronic stores like FYE. While not as common, these games were still readily available and on shelves for a much longer period of time compared to a game that had a system on it's way out for the 64 bit era within the same year. Mario RPG was not heavily printed out like Kingdom Hearts due to Square wanting very little to do with cartridge base games anymore.It’s not Super Mario RPG with 7 million counting against the 6 million of Kingdom Hearts. It’s 2 million against that 6 million, and I do not think for a minute you can count SNES classic towards anything, and I refuse to budge on this point as well cause it just doesn’t make sense.
It was at first, but Luffy's was steadily growing throughout the fight until it finally surpassed Katakuri's in the end. He can't do it on command like Kata but it's stronger when it happens.I don't want this to become a huge talk about One Piece, and I know Luffy, too, can see the future, but isn't Katakuri's future sight more advanced than Luffy's?
I haven’t seen any numbers on digital sales but even then your comparing sales years later at $8 versus full retail releases. So again, there’s a matter of exposure there. There’s also the new collections and so on for Kingdom Hearts that should then count by that logic.I would say this is a fair point, but I don't think there is a specific different between physical or VC. Sure Super Mario RPG in this case had 5 to 6 year head start in recognition, however the Playstation 2 which Kingdom Hearts was on, had a life span that lasted 13 years. That's 11 years where Kingdom Hearts was commonly available within stores whether they were Targets or your smaller niche electronic stores like FYE. While not as common, these games were still readily available and on shelves for a much longer period of time compared to a game that had a system on it's way out for the 64 bit era within the same year. Mario RPG was not heavily printed out like Kingdom Hearts due to Square wanting very little to do with cartridge base games anymore.
Kingdom Hearts also came with multiple spin offs and sequels which probably made a population of gamers to be like "Holy snap. I need to also play X, Y and Z. Better find a way to get those as well." Mario RPG did not have that luxury but Virtual Console made enjoying the game possible for many gamers.
We can go back and forth about this topic but I think for the period of time Super Mario RPG was released compared to Kingdom Hearts and the platform they both ran on, I find that it would be pretty unfair to take digital sales away from Super Mario RPG's success and the ability that it was able to outsell most of it's competition.
I didn't get to that part because I watch the anime, I don't read too much of the manga. It's good to know that Luffy's getting stronger, but he's still got a long way to go to take on Kaido.It was at first, but Luffy's was steadily growing throughout the fight until it finally surpassed Katakuri's in the end. He can't do it on command like Kata but it's stronger when it happens.
But yeah, Geno and stuff. I've seen people suggest Geno Boost as an up b. How exactly would that work? I would picture it as a down b. Although with Sakurai's moveset choices the past 2 games I bet it will be a counter that works like Incineroar's.
Coming up with a recovery is the one thing that people can not agree onI didn't get to that part because I watch the anime, I don't read too much of the manga. It's good to know that Luffy's getting stronger, but he's still got a long way to go to take on Kaido.
NOW, back to Geno. Same, I don't understand how Geno Boost can be his recovery... all I can think of is him shooting himself up in his cannon or using Geno Beam to blast himself up to a certain height, and I think the dependance of the height should be controlled on how long we hold his up special (up B) for; this was actually one of my most interesting questions I've had about Geno - what his recovery would be and how it would work. If Geno is coming, I'd like to see what Sakurai thought of and made for Geno's recovery.
Cause he'd lose his body. I would preffer it for finale smash.I don't get it
He literally becomes a cannon
How can this not function as a recovery
I admit I have not been able to play this, bit the project M mod “legacy” has created Geno as a fighter that’s uses the “Geno Canon” as his recovery and I will say it looks pretty and functions pretty well.Cause he'd lose his body. I would preffer it for finale smash.
Yeah, It can transform himself during the launch, it could use "Rocket legs", or even call Mallow to give him a hand.I admit I have not been able to play this, bit the project M mod “legacy” has created Geno as a fighter that’s uses the “Geno Canon” as his recovery and I will say it looks pretty and functions pretty well.
You can say it's ""problematic"" all the live long day, but when it comes down to it a SNES Classic sold is a person/family that will be exposed to SMRPG whether that was their intent when buying the system or not. That was my initial point several posts ago. That Geno/SMRPG isn't really that obscure or niche even though it's a single game released 20 some years ago because a **** ton of people at this point have bought the game/had access to the game.I haven’t seen any numbers on digital sales but even then your comparing sales years later at $8 versus full retail releases. So again, there’s a matter of exposure there. There’s also the new collections and so on for Kingdom Hearts that should then count by that logic.
I’m mainly taking away the 5 million sales from the SNES classic though, because that massively inflates the number of copies of the game sold and for all the reasons discussed above about why it’s problematic counting it.
I think I'd also prefer it for his final smash just because it's so dramatic and flashy. It makes the most sense. Also even though Geno Boost in the game is just a powering up move I could see Sakurai changing it to be something where Geno's legs turn into jets to propel him upwards or something like that.Cause he'd lose his body. I would preffer it for finale smash.
LOL, it's not like Rate their chance has ever predicted anything rightWelp, its Geno time in RTC.
Since they got everything wrong, let's hope Geno has low chances to'em!LOL, it's not like Rate their chance has ever predicted anything right