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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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ForsakenM

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hot take: mach rider is what kills the leak for me. why the h3ll would he be here? this game's roster was based on the ballot. who the h3ll voted for mach rider? plus, i'm a box theorist, so this many newcomers is just absurd to me.
also, it's blurry as h3ll. never trust a leak that's so blurry that you can barely even see what's going on. that's a dead giveaway every single time.
Box theory can do what the first three words of the last sentence on the Chadondorf 4Chan leak says.

As far as this leak goes, I'm on Team 'Fake Until Confirmed By Nintendo/Sakurai' because frankly the Artsy Rayman and Crunchii's ciphers are proof that leakers will go above and beyond just for a 'gotcha Smash community, haha!' little tickle to their pickle. The LinkedIn going private seems more like cover-up to try and stop people from grabbing more information to debunk it and it's too blurry to detect any minor errors that would confirm it being fake. Also, and I know people will hate me for this, but...ahem...

VERGEBEN IS STILL OUR ONLY MOST CREDIBLE LEAKER FOR SMASH ULTIMATE!

Thus anyone or anything that goes against what he says automatically becomes questionable at best when it comes to credibility. Sure, Vergeben could be wrong or it could be something weird like 'Hey, remember when he said Simon would be at E3 and we would get a Castlevania collection?' and those two things didn't happen until much later and thus Incineroar could be DLC or something, but that again would just prove Vergeben to be correct on something else.

Add in that we have very little time left and that currently it seems that the game has gone gold and we may have the full build at the Nintendo Live event and frankly, it doesn't seem possible to have seven new fighters, as much as I would like that to be the case.

Still, I hope this gets remembered as the Grinch's Warehouse/Garage leak.

EDIT: Bringing up the 'ruffled feathers' thing again, I'm pretty sure if this were to be real it would ruffle the feathers of an entire gaggle of game-developing geese.

EDIT EDIT: Apparently is was this guy's Snapchat that went private, not his LinkedIn. Also reportedly his place of work has been called and confirmed he exists and works where we think he does. Decently solid evidence I supposed, but still fake until confirmed.
 
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gzmee

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Box theory can do what the first three words of the last sentence on the Chadondorf 4Chan leak says.

As far as this leak goes, I'm on Team 'Fake Until Confirmed By Nintendo/Sakurai' because frankly the Artsy Rayman and Crunchii's ciphers are proof that leakers will go above and beyond just for a 'gotcha Smash community, haha!' little tickle to their pickle. The LinkedIn going private seems more like cover-up to try and stop people from grabbing more information to debunk it and it's too blurry to detect any minor errors that would confirm it being fake. Also, and I know people will hate me for this, but...ahem...

VERGEBEN IS STILL OUR ONLY MOST CREDIBLE LEAKER FOR SMASH ULTIMATE!

Thus anyone or anything that goes against what he says automatically becomes questionable at best when it comes to credibility. Sure, Vergeben could be wrong or it could be something weird like 'Hey, remember when he said Simon would be at E3 and we would get a Castlevania collection?' and those two things didn't happen until much later and thus Incineroar could be DLC or something, but that again would just prove Vergeben to be correct on something else.

Add in that we have very little time left and that currently it seems that the game has gone gold and we may have the full build at the Nintendo Live event and frankly, it doesn't seem possible to have seven new fighters, as much as I would like that to be the case.

Still, I hope this gets remembered as the Grinch's Warehouse/Garage leak.
the fact that we have such little time left is one of the big things that kills the leak for me. how are they gonna release 7 new fighters in such little time?!
i hope we can look back at this and go, "hey, remember when THE GRINCH was a major part of a leak?" it really shows how ridiculous smash speculation can get.
 

Autobot N

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Which means the roster won't be complete until we get Pierce Brosnan James Bond in the game. Here's hoping for DLC. /s
Don't forget Ayumi Tachibana
Is that the name we're going with? The Grinch leak? Because if so I'm down just due to sheer hilarity. First the blog theory, then the box art theory, now... the Grinch? iirc Smashwiki has dedicated pages for retelling the events of real leaks of Smash past, so here's hoping that we get a page called The Grinch Leak. (hehe).
Personally, I prefer "How the Grinch stole the Smash Roster."

the fact that we have such little time left is one of the big things that kills the leak for me. how are they gonna release 7 new fighters in such little time?!
I mean, they showed 5 characters in one Direct. This is only 2 more than that one.
 

EricTheGamerman

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It seems to me the general tide is already shifting away from the leak. I really couldn't believe it (as in literally could not force myself to do so) because of the wish fulfillment going on. I would never begin to understand the decision to hold back not only this many characters, but these big reveals until the very end of the hype cycle like this. I just don't think there is enough time to reveal all these characters properly.

Add in the fact that we have insiders seeming to step forward and go, I know something and this isn't it, and I'm inclined to believe this is just too damn good to be true. I think a lot of the context of this picture is super interesting, but I just can't let myself believe this in earnest. Despite the fact that this would be a damn near perfect roster completion of Smash for me. Geno, Banjo, Isaac. My three most wanted? YES. Chorus Kids and Mach Rider (one of my top three choices for retro rep) of all things. YES. Shadow and Ken, well expected, but. YES.

It's just too good to be true, and I tend to believe Sakurai was serious about the number of newcomers being seriously low. And I'll admit I've just become so damn cynical with what's left of the roster that I don't believe Sakurai, in any way, shape, or form, is going to go all out on wish fulfillment like this. I'm convinced Geno is the best case scenario of one of the final newcomers and that we probably have the super disappointing Incineroar (or someone of that level reveal wise) left next to any final Echo fighters...
 

ForsakenM

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Apparently a foreign news outlet just called this Eric dude's place of work and confirmed he is real and works at this printing place.

EDIT: Image of the Tweet.

 
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Apparently a foreign news outlet just called this Eric dude's place of work and confirmed he is real and works at this printing place.

EDIT: Image of the Tweet.

LET'S GO! What is Nintendo Actu, that can't be a news outlet, can it?
 
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TheZoologist

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Wanted to stop by and say hope this leak is true so you guys get who you've been hoping for all these years at long last! This leak is a win for everyone!
 

EricTheGamerman

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We dabbing against the zoomers right now.
Let's not quite celebrate yet. This leak is like what, not even 12 hours old? If the evidence if favor of this thing sticks around a while longer, maybe then celebrations are in order. But lets just give it a bit (Sorry I'm Team Fake) before proclaiming victory. It's going to look very bad on us if we do. Cautiously optimistic is what Team Real should be for now...
 

Bobthealligator

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There is no way this is real:
Argument A:
Sakurai says he is slowing down character reveals, yet this leak suggests we're getting 7 newcomers in two months.
Banjo, but Phil Spencer has already said he's not in.
This picture is so blurry, it's too blurry for it to be natural, it's been added artificially.
The supposed leaker's name is apparently just right there in the picture, this is deliberate and you wouldn't advertise that it was you, that's how you get a lawsuit. The Grinch picture is also similarly planted. He wants you to think he works for this company but in all likelihood, he doesn't.
 

TBone06

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Also, this goes without saying, and I’m going to feel like such a dad saying this, but IF this leak is true (and that’s a big if) have compassion for other fans. Don’t rub it in that we got in while others didn’t. We remember what it’s like to get snubbed. I’m sure everyone has one or two people they would like to rub it in to, but Geno fans get a lot of hate doing nothing but supporting our character. Don’t give people a reason to hate on us more. Here is to being cautiously optimistic! Hoping this is real, but I’m not expecting it to be.
 

Autobot N

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Also, this goes without saying, and I’m going to feel like such a dad saying this, but IF this leak is true (and that’s a big if) have compassion for other fans. Don’t rub it in that we got in while others didn’t. We remember what it’s like to get snubbed. I’m sure everyone has one or two people they would like to rub it in to, but Geno fans get a lot of hate doing nothing but supporting our character.
Taking the moral high road is always a good idea.
 

EntropyAtrophy

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The primary reason I can’t see this being real is because it would take an entire direct just to show the trailers for these newcomers unless they’re all shown in one big over-the-top trailer.

Also, this would mean Sakurai was totally misdirecting us when he said they were slowing down on reveals.

I can see him misleading us, but I can’t understand why they would pace the reveals as they have when they could have shown 2-3 of these this month and then the remainder at the beginning of November. That would have made a lot more sense if we still have 7 newcomers left.
 

TheZoologist

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There is no way this is real:
Argument A:
Sakurai says he is slowing down character reveals, yet this leak suggests we're getting 7 newcomers in two months.
Banjo, but Phil Spencer has already said he's not in.
This picture is so blurry, it's too blurry for it to be natural, it's been added artificially.
The supposed leaker's name is apparently just right there in the picture, this is deliberate and you wouldn't advertise that it was you, that's how you get a lawsuit. The Grinch picture is also similarly planted. He wants you to think he works for this company but in all likelihood, he doesn't.
Source to where Phil Spencer said Banjo's not in?
 

Bobthealligator

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Source to where Phil Spencer said Banjo's not in?
He said in an interview that if Nintendo approached him about putting Banjo in Smash he would be happy to let them. Key word: "would". Ask the Banjo support thread for the source, they use it as evidence that he is in. Also he said it around June, Sakurai says it takes him a year to make a new character so they can't have added him since.
 

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The primary reason I can’t see this being real is because it would take an entire direct just to show the trailers for these newcomers unless they’re all shown in one big over-the-top trailer.

Also, this would mean Sakurai was totally misdirecting us when he said they were slowing down on reveals.

I can see him misleading us, but I can’t understand why they would pace the reveals as they have when they could have shown 2-3 of these this month and then the remainder at the beginning of November. That would have made a lot more sense if we still have 7 newcomers left.
there's also the chance that all newcomers won't be revealed before the game drops.
 

Wambo

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There is no way this is real:
Argument A:
Sakurai says he is slowing down character reveals, yet this leak suggests we're getting 7 newcomers in two months.
Banjo, but Phil Spencer has already said he's not in.
This picture is so blurry, it's too blurry for it to be natural, it's been added artificially.
The supposed leaker's name is apparently just right there in the picture, this is deliberate and you wouldn't advertise that it was you, that's how you get a lawsuit. The Grinch picture is also similarly planted. He wants you to think he works for this company but in all likelihood, he doesn't.
Phil Spencer never said Banjo wasn't in. He said recently that he'd still be down for Banjo when someone asked him, but that's not necessarily deconfirming him.

Also, if this leak turns out to be real, WE DID IT, GENO BOIS.
 

FCZHornet

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What happens to a support thread if we actually get our character? Do we ascend to nirvana?
 

EntropyAtrophy

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i feel like threads that get their character confirmed should get a special badge or something.
Making an assumption here but I’d expect that
1. Mods would make a new character forum for Geno and
2. This would be moved there?

Not sure how any of this works just guessing.
 

link2702

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i feel like threads that get their character confirmed should get a special badge or something.
Nah, cuz it kinda seems a bit unfair to those who’s character didn’t make it in, and also that has never been done here in the past, why do so this smash cycle?

Getting our favorite confirmed, and this thread going from the speculation board, to the confirmed character boards, complete with our own board to discuss everything related to the character, from their meta game, and tournament results, to fanart and general discussion, is more than enough reward.
 

gzmee

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Nah, cuz it kinda seems a bit unfair to those who’s character didn’t make it in, and also that has never been done here in the past, why do so this smash cycle?

Getting our favorite confirmed, and this thread going from the speculation board, to the confirmed character boards, complete with our own board to discuss everything related to the character, from their meta game, and tournament results, to fanart and general discussion, is more than enough reward.
sorry, i just got here like, a month ago, so i'm pretty out of the loop when it comes to this kind of stuff. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

Wambo

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You got to love that guy in charge of the Wendy's twitter
Today on "Did You Know Gaming"...

Did You Know? Wendy's once referenced an obscure Nintendo character known as "Geno"...


Also, wow, that weird feeling when you realize that Geno is probably no longer going to be considered "obscure".
 

Mr Gentleman

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I'm not buying this leak. But hey when we do get our next character at least it will confirm or deconfirm this leak!

I know people are using the fact that this guy works for namco as proof, but why would namco's side be doing the promotion? Expecially with how tight lipped they wanna be. Shouldn't nintendo's people be making this stuff?
 

link2702

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It’s so surreal seeing smash be so big now that even fast food companies get in on this type of thing.

That or they really really understand their customer base....

:/ shame Wendy’s food makes me sick cuz it’s so greasy. Tastes fine, but literally anytime I eat there I get sick to my stomach. Only fast food places that do that to me are Wendy’s and burger king.
 
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