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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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Mother got merchandise. SMRPG never did ;_;
It did in Japan. There is a plush set that was in claw machines that included Boshi, Mario, some other things, Mallow, and possibly Geno but no one is sure.
 

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I'm quite particular with the amiibos I collect. If I wasn't, I'd be one of those crazy collectors who just bought every one that came out. I only end up buying the ones I really want.

I REALLY want a Geno Amiibo.
 

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I'm preordering as soon as he's announced. You'd have to, it's historic. Ugh...I wish we'd here about Geno...
 
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If they announced a Geno amiibo, I would literally throw my money at the screen.

And Geno plushies. If Nintendo sells those I will love them forever.
 

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I was watching the old trailers, and one thing I found interesting is that the only third party character that appears in an animated scene is Mega Man. Who appears in 2 with Smash 4 and 1 in Ultimate. None of the others have their own animated scene OR appear in other scenes

Capcom must be the easiest studio to work with.

Would Geno get one if he got in with that in mind?
 
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I was watching the old trailers, and one thing I found interesting is that the only third party character that appears in an animated scene is Mega Man. Who appears in 2 with Smash 4 and 1 in Ultimate. None of the others have their own animated scene OR appear in other scenes

Capcom must be the easiest studio to work with.

Would Geno get one if he got in with that in mind?
There's no way in hell Geno wouldn't get an animated intro considering his Mii costume was the only one to ever get one.
 

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I was watching the old trailers, and one thing I found interesting is that the only third party character that appears in an animated scene is Mega Man. Who appears in 2 with Smash 4 and 1 in Ultimate. None of the others have their own animated scene OR appear in other scenes

Capcom must be the easiest studio to work with.

Would Geno get one if he got in with that in mind?
Ah...I never noticed, but you're right! Honestly though, I think that may be more about timing than anything--every newcomer that wasn't DLC got an animation in Smash 4, and the only third parties that weren't DLC were Sonic, Mega Man and Pacman. Sonic was a vet, so he didn't get one, and as for appearing in others' trailers, I really don't think it was a matter of ease in working with them, considering Sega will permit practically ANYONE to use Sonic. If anything, it may just cost something every time they feature in one, and it isn't worth the price to feature them if they're not a newcomer. Then again, we haven't seen any trailer for Ultimate aside from Ridley's--Sonic could feature in one later.

And actually, now that I think about it, Pac did feature in an animation--the end of his reveal trailer (the part with G&W) was animated. It's also worth noting that both Pac and Mega are silent, so no additional voice acting would be needed for them in additional trailers--not so for many other characters, third party or otherwise. This may be another reason.

With all that said, there's practically no way Geno won't get an animated trailer--unless he's DLC. I could see Cloud being used in his, too, given their mutual developer connection.
 
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Ah...I never noticed, but you're right! Honestly though, I think that may be more about timing than anything--every newcomer that wasn't DLC got an animation in Smash 4, and the only third parties that weren't DLC were Sonic, Mega Man and Pacman. Sonic was a vet, so he didn't get one, and as for appearing in others' trailers, I really don't think it was a matter of ease in working with them, considering Sega will permit practically ANYONE to use Sonic. If anything, it may just cost something every time they feature in one, and it isn't worth the price to feature them if they're not a newcomer. Then again, we haven't seen any trailer for Ultimate aside from Ridley's--Sonic could feature in one later.

And actually, now that I think about it, Pac did feature in an animation--the end of his reveal trailer (the part with G&W) was animated. It's also worth noting that both Pac and Mega are silent, so no additional voice acting would be needed for them in additional trailers--not so for many other characters, third party or otherwise. This may be another reason.

With all that said, there's practically no way Geno won't get an animated trailer--unless he's DLC. I could see Cloud being used in his, too, given their mutual developer connection.
I didn't count pac man because it wasn't the same quality as the regular trailers, just featuring the characters on a blank white background with text
 

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I was watching the old trailers, and one thing I found interesting is that the only third party character that appears in an animated scene is Mega Man. Who appears in 2 with Smash 4 and 1 in Ultimate. None of the others have their own animated scene OR appear in other scenes

Capcom must be the easiest studio to work with.

Would Geno get one if he got in with that in mind?
Ryu has some animation in the beginning of his trailer, but I see what you're getting at. Ryu is also a Capcom rep, so that may explain it.
 

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Ryu has some animation in the beginning of his trailer, but I see what you're getting at. Ryu is also a Capcom rep, so that may explain it.
I didn't know there was a Ryu trailer.
 

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So, just to keep more conversations going, when do yall think the next character will be announced? Think we will see one or more this month?
 

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So, just to keep more conversations going, when do yall think the next character will be announced? Think we will see one or more this month?
I do think we will get something this month. On what character, I do not think it will be anything to crazy just yet. I feel like they will be saving some of there more shocking reveals for when we get closer to the release.
 

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I'd say this month we will get a new character, but I don't think they'll necessarily be one of the bombshell characters. I wouldn't expect King K. Rool, Geno, or Isaac, but someone like Ashley or Captain Toad to go along with their upcoming releases would make sense. Both characters certainly have their fans, but I'd expect Sakurai to hold off on someone else with the fan vote so soon after Ridley... Unless he's really going for complete fan service, and then all bets are off the table.

My biggest fear with regard to Geno is that he'll remain a Mii costume, and Sakurai will like put Sora in the game and that'll effectively burn Geno's chances from ever being in Smash. Not super opposed to Sora mind you, but again, in relation to Geno I don't think we would expect three representatives from Square... Unless we got a Sora/Geno combo trailer. If THAT happened, all hell would break loose and the reaction would be amazing. Absolutely no chance of that happening.

I could also see Geno as one of the hidden characters making it in to the game as Sakurai's treat if he does get in too. I know he would be a *Third Party*, but again Geno exists in his own dimension of character classification.
 

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I'd say this month we will get a new character, but I don't think they'll necessarily be one of the bombshell characters. I wouldn't expect King K. Rool, Geno, or Isaac, but someone like Ashley or Captain Toad to go along with their upcoming releases would make sense. Both characters certainly have their fans, but I'd expect Sakurai to hold off on someone else with the fan vote so soon after Ridley... Unless he's really going for complete fan service, and then all bets are off the table.

My biggest fear with regard to Geno is that he'll remain a Mii costume, and Sakurai will like put Sora in the game and that'll effectively burn Geno's chances from ever being in Smash. Not super opposed to Sora mind you, but again, in relation to Geno I don't think we would expect three representatives from Square... Unless we got a Sora/Geno combo trailer. If THAT happened, all hell would break loose and the reaction would be amazing. Absolutely no chance of that happening.

I could also see Geno as one of the hidden characters making it in to the game as Sakurai's treat if he does get in too. I know he would be a *Third Party*, but again Geno exists in his own dimension of character classification.
I kind of don't think we'll have to worry about Sora getting into the game because of licensing issues with Disney.

But I still fear that Geno will just end up as a costume again.

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For one they couldn't have his signature Key Blade

And 2, how could they portray the character properly without ANY disney references? Like, Donald and Goofy would have to be referenced somewhere.
 
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I kind of don't think we'll have to worry about Sora getting into the game because of licensing issues with Disney.

But I still fear that Geno will just end up as a costume again.

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For one they couldn't have his signature Key Blade

And 2, how could they portray the character properly without ANY disney references? Like, Donald and Goofy would have to be referenced somewhere.
From what I understand Disney owns the rights to Sora anyways. Sakurai wouldn't be able to use Sora without Disney's permission even if SquareEnix wanted Sora in devoid of Disney references. They simply don't own him. (At least if memory serves.)

But because of that, since Sora is technically a Disney character and not a Squeenix character I don't think his inclusion would damage Geno's chances. =)
 

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I kind of don't think we'll have to worry about Sora getting into the game because of licensing issues with Disney.

But I still fear that Geno will just end up as a costume again.

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For one they couldn't have his signature Key Blade

And 2, how could they portray the character properly without ANY disney references? Like, Donald and Goofy would have to be referenced somewhere.
Why couldn’t he have the Key Blade? First I’ve heard of anything of the sort.

I do think he would be a rough character to deal with from a rights perspective, but they could also potentially just base him around other things and ignore the more specific Disney references. He’s another popular choice for a lot of people in Smash, so it would still be a move for the fans (just not as deep of a cut as Geno would be).

There’s something to be said of not properly representing him by avoiding Disney specific stuff, but Smash hasn’t always done justice to characters’ source material anyway.

Again, not trying to just support Sora. But I do think it’s worth considering the fact he could be an obstacle for Geno.
 

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Why couldn’t he have the Key Blade? First I’ve heard of anything of the sort.

I do think he would be a rough character to deal with from a rights perspective, but they could also potentially just base him around other things and ignore the more specific Disney references. He’s another popular choice for a lot of people in Smash, so it would still be a move for the fans (just not as deep of a cut as Geno would be).

There’s something to be said of not properly representing him by avoiding Disney specific stuff, but Smash hasn’t always done justice to characters’ source material anyway.

Again, not trying to just support Sora. But I do think it’s worth considering the fact he could be an obstacle for Geno.
It's got Mickey Mouse's head on it

He couldn't have the KINGDOM keyblade, which is the one he has in most promotional material
 
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I'd say this month we will get a new character, but I don't think they'll necessarily be one of the bombshell characters. I wouldn't expect King K. Rool, Geno, or Isaac, but someone like Ashley or Captain Toad to go along with their upcoming releases would make sense. Both characters certainly have their fans, but I'd expect Sakurai to hold off on someone else with the fan vote so soon after Ridley... Unless he's really going for complete fan service, and then all bets are off the table.

My biggest fear with regard to Geno is that he'll remain a Mii costume, and Sakurai will like put Sora in the game and that'll effectively burn Geno's chances from ever being in Smash. Not super opposed to Sora mind you, but again, in relation to Geno I don't think we would expect three representatives from Square... Unless we got a Sora/Geno combo trailer. If THAT happened, all hell would break loose and the reaction would be amazing. Absolutely no chance of that happening.

I could also see Geno as one of the hidden characters making it in to the game as Sakurai's treat if he does get in too. I know he would be a *Third Party*, but again Geno exists in his own dimension of character classification.
I feel like Sora has even less of a chance to get in over Geno, but if there's a Sora reveal, we'd be done for. Having three Square reps would be near impossible. Then again, we did get both Mega Man and Ryu in Smash 4. I feel like there's some leeway there given the two of them are both very influential characters, that is compared to Sora and Geno.
 

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So, just to keep more conversations going, when do yall think the next character will be announced? Think we will see one or more this month?
Personally, I'm betting we get a character every month till release. It's just too perfect--we're probably getting about five more newcomers (at least, I think so,) and there are five months till release. Then there'll likely be one or two more hidden characters revealed after release in December, as with Duck Hunt and Bowser Jr. Nothing will get the hype going like a set pattern of reveals.

As for when Geno would be shown? I hope sooner rather than later, but I imagine he'd be November's big "last before release" character, as Shulk was. That, or he's a secret character.
 

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Considering there is less than 6 months starting on Saturday left before the game releases, I'm pretty sure they will have at least one newcomer reveal per month since Nintendo Directs aren't frequent like they used to be and they happen like every 3 to 4 months nowadays. Frankly, they would probably save the rumored Simon Belmont for that and the rest would be revealed on the site.
 

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Ah, I didn't ever see the Mickey Mouse part of the chain... Though that's such a minor detail, I think you could easily change it. Again, I don't think Sora is likely and I'm not trying to advocate for him. He would be an absolute logistical legal nightmare I'd imagine, and having Disney characters in the game would be weird as all hell...

That said, Sakurai has always made the impossible possible, and while Sora is probably an out there pick, he's also one that people have wanted to see in the games. Kingdom Hearts has as much history with Nintendo, if not more, than Metal Gear. Adding Sora would absolutely be a huge reveal, and a fan service move as well. I could see it happening as much as I doubt it, and honestly, I wouldn't be that upset beyond knowing what it likely meant for our boy in blue.

Also, I don't think Geno will be the final character revealed. He is a big fan choice, but I don't think he is a megaton right before the game drops kind of announcement.
 

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I don't think Sora would take priority over Geno though. Sakurai chose Cloud first and foremost as FF is Square's main series and that it doesn't have the whole discussion with Disney thing on top of that. Plus, Sakurai has clearly shown more interest in Geno to begin with.
 

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If Geno stays as a Mii Costume I just hope they make better heads/masks/helmets. Maybe an actual Geno head to go over the Mii would be nice, instead of just a hat and a dumb Mii face with skin color that can't match the wooden body.
 

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It never really dawned upon me that we have one of the most well known commentators for Smash Bros. on our side. xD1x has been a huge Geno fan for a while now and I think it's cool that someone who was invited to commentate the Smash Invitational is rooting along with us.
 

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I kind of don't think we'll have to worry about Sora getting into the game because of licensing issues with Disney.

But I still fear that Geno will just end up as a costume again.

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For one they couldn't have his signature Key Blade

And 2, how could they portray the character properly without ANY disney references? Like, Donald and Goofy would have to be referenced somewhere.
I'm prepared for that. As long as Sakurai includes a way for me to make Geno again, I'll be good. Geno being a costume AGAIN even after everything seems to be going well for him is a grim reality I must be prepared for. I know this, if Geno is not playable again this year, I'm retiring from speculating Geno being in Smash for good. I'm 31 years old, I've waited 12+ years and 22 since SMRPG for Geno to be in another game again. I feel like Geno has everything going for him this year, and I've basically screamed at Nintendo to hear my cry. I've downloaded RPG twice on VC and purchased Geno's sole dlc costume, just to show Nintendo I'm willing to pay money to see Geno again. If he's still not playable I will finally give up. 3 strikes and you're out. I can't wait for another console. We've waited long enough for our character's turn.
 
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Dumb thought that ocurred to me, but I wonder what kind of relationship Geno would have with Rosalina? It's unlikely, but there is that quote of "I serve...a higher authority".
 

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I'm a simple man; I see Geno, I watch.
You and me both! I hate looking at leaks because they get my hopes up or down, but it's always interesting what people have to say. It's almost unfortunate people feel the need to make leaks, but it's always going to happen.
 

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I'm a little skeptical of the claim of Rayman, as much as I would love that. And as far as additional Bamco reps are concerned, I would like KOS-MOS over anyone from Tekken or Dark Souls. Lazy "games journalists" would never shut up if the latter happened.
 

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I'm prepared for that. As long as Sakurai includes a way for me to make Geno again, I'll be good. Geno being a costume AGAIN even after everything seems to be going well for him is a grim reality I must be prepared for. I know this, if Geno is not playable again this year, I'm retiring from speculating Geno being in Smash for good. I'm 31 years old, I've waited 12+ years and 22 since SMRPG for Geno to be in another game again. I feel like Geno has everything going for him this year, and I've basically screamed at Nintendo to hear my cry. I've downloaded RPG twice on VC and purchased Geno's sole dlc costume, just to show Nintendo I'm willing to pay money to see Geno again. If he's still not playable I will finally give up. 3 strikes and you're out. I can't wait for another console. We've waited long enough for our character's turn.
Haiku: Never give up for Geno be confirmed in Smash Ultimate to dwell! #Haiku #NeverGiveUp #RaheemTheDream #Geno4SmashUltimate #BelieveInYourDreams #AllOrNothing #GoodLuck http://codysnintendoroom.forumotion.com/t6p75-falcon-awards-2015?highlight=Raheem+The+Dream

I don't know if anyone saw this yet, and I take every leak worth a grain of salt, but this one actually looked kind of interesting to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA5H3Jpx1zg&feature=youtu.be&a=
I've seen dat video, fam!

You and me both! I hate looking at leaks because they get my hopes up or down, but it's always interesting what people have to say. It's almost unfortunate people feel the need to make leaks, but it's always going to happen.
I've strongly believes that our precious Geno shall be confirmed as a New Comer of finally being (PLAYABLE) in Smash Ultimate's roster, no matter what with all of video leaks popping out like woodwork:
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Haiku: Never give up for Geno be confirmed in Smash Ultimate to dwell! #Haiku #NeverGiveUp #RaheemTheDream #Geno4SmashUltimate #BelieveInYourDreams #AllOrNothing #GoodLuck http://codysnintendoroom.forumotion.com/t6p75-falcon-awards-2015?highlight=Raheem+The+Dream


I've seen dat video, fam!


I've strongly believes that our precious Geno shall be confirmed as a New Comer of finally being (PLAYABLE) in Smash Ultimate's roster, no matter what with all of video leaks popping out like woodwork:
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Thx Raheem
 

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I can't watch rn but Geno, Chibi Robo, and Rayman would be one the of the best combos for newcomers imo.
 

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The other major problem I have with the leak isn't so much that Chibi Robo is one of the characters listed, it's just the fact they claim its either him or Dillon as if they're not confident in their information.
 
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