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This line is what has me convinced that they're gonna support Ultimate for pretty much the entire rest of the Switch's lifespan. Nintendo makes hella bank, Sakurai gets to continue adding on to his vision of Smash Bros. without committing to developing a whole new game, all third parties involved get major exposure out of it, everyone wins and there's really no reason for them to stop until the Switch itself is out of vogue. We could very well see those unused WoL slots filled up and then some, and that's just incredible to me. (Although that will make this game's DLC very expensive, perhaps even moreso than the game itself.)
Boom Boom is just so impersonable to me. Seems like a wasted slot with all the personality of the Koopalings packed into Bowser Jr.
What about Paper Mario and Fawful?
My list consists of third party characters only because those are the characters who I believe will take the additional DLC slots. I don't think we will get Spirit or Assist Trophy upgrades or more First Party characters so Isaac is not there unfortunately.
@PushDustIn was correct the "29/30" extra spots are NOT filled with alt costumes, its been checked. I admit I'm no dataminer so I was going off what I heard from multiple places but that was apparently false info echoed around.
— PapaGenos (@GenosPapa) September 24, 2019
I feel like Kirby would need to be that first go because even though Zelda hasn't gotten a true newcomer since Melee, they still have six playable characters. Kirby has half that and didn't even get Meta Knight and King Dedede until Brawl. The series is fairly iconic and it surprises me that they only have the big three and no additional characters that really hit home besides them. Where's Bandana Dee (iconic member to the quad squad), Marx (most iconic final boss in the series), or Magolor (most iconic modern Kirby rep after Dee)? Zelda is under used in this series but Kirby is even more so.
I'd very likely die of excitement if Shy Guy got added in.
This backs up a claim I made shortly after the Banjo presentation that when they say "collaboration", they mean games from third parties as well as Nintendo properties. Of course, there are tons and tons of third party spirits - a surprising amount, in fact. However, there are probably a thousand from first and second party Nintendo titles... I would at least say that they make up the bulk of the spirits in the game.Sakurai said:
I'm thinking he's in.Sakurai said:
i guess so i think its going to be a fighting games fighter pack
i would of course buy them all but my opinion on some might differ
Here's my Fighter Pass! Would you buy it?
i think the focus should be on the games that have lack of contents in smashWhat about characters not under the mushroom logo?
I would say Rawk Hawk can bring the Paper Mario content but every "trophy" is basically a Paper Mario item, now.
I have to imagine that this only applies to whatever current "season" they may have, just so that people don't get the rug swept out from under them when a new character comes out...? Which is still dumb, but you know.
It's getting to the point where I'm not sure why Hero detractors and Hero defenders don't just compromise and ban Down B. It isn't hard to go the match without pressing it and the character is plenty good without it. I still think the language barrier thing is a weak excuse when everyone in the world speaks English and even if France wants to play the French language, "Whack" is called "Kill" so I think everyone knows what to look out for.
What does the bottom row of text mean in context to my message?
No, they are just banning any future DLC character from this tournament as it will last from October to November and Terry is coming out in November. People wouldn't have enough time to practice as him or learn how to counter play him. They really should have said "Terry is banned" instead of "All future DLC" as that is very misleading, especially since Terry is the only DLC releasing then.
Well, you heard it here first: we are getting 73 more characters. 20% of them are Geno in different hats.
Unless there's something we don't know... :thinking:
Hey, didn't I call that with my top 5 most wanted earlier in this thread?
I don't understand why they won't add in an option in Smash mode to turn RNG mechanics off like in Home Run Contest.
English is a common language for people to speak, but it isn't common for people to know how to read English. English is notorious for being incredibly hard to learn how to read for people from other nationalities. It is much easier to just put icons to show what the spells are then to say "You wanna play in this tournament? Then learn how to read in English and learn what spells mean what. Good luck!" You have to remember these people don't read English all the time or know it fluently, and if you don't you are gonna screw up when reading the names for the spells. The language barrier exists, and this is coming from someone who doesn't want Hero to be banned.
I was thinking that too but brushed it off as fighter five is releasing in January at the earliest in my opinion, but maybe and echo fighter is coming with Terry. That would be another new character.
The randomness actually balances the moves. Sizzle, Kaboom and Flame Slash are extremely powerful moves bordering on broken. They come out extremely quickly, hit like a tank, and aside from Kaboom cost little mana for what you get out of it. Imagine knowing that you're about to get one of those instead of just hoping you're about to get one. It would be nuts.
I'm pretty sure at this point every spirit is going to become a playable character and even local tournaments are going to become 3 day events because it's gonna take someone an hour to scroll to the bottom of the list so they can play as Ness' Dad.
It's like 20 semi-made up words. If I intended to play in an international tournament where I might encounter Hero, and they're not playing in English, I would take the time to learn them. This is a European tournament, and Europe loves to tout itself as a place where all of these different nationalities have an understanding of each others' languages to be able to function in their neighboring country. It isn't like going to Japan and having to learn the nearly 50 sounds of the secondary alphabet just to read Hero's menu - you recognize most of these letters and really you don't even have to know how they sound, just what they do. It's a competitive game and if you're willing to put however many hours a week into being at the level it takes to compete and get decent results, you should be willing to put a few hours into associating foreign words with deadly particle effects.
Okay I'm really with you there. Bowser Jr. was a missed opprtunity. They stuck him in the clown car seemingly for the sake of making all of the Alts make sense. I would honestly much rather Bowser Jr. was a quicker, lighter clone of Bowser even.
Their loss. I don't see the big deal in having a low exposure character at a tournament, considering everyone will have the same level of knowledge of (Or opportunity to have learned) the character. I guess they're just worried he'll be broken in some manner.
I already have enough of a gripe with the character, but I would not want to have gone to a tournament on the launch day of Banjo just to find out that he has a frame 18 invincible flare blitz that kills at or around 100 with good DI and is a get back to stage free option. Losers' bracket is a horrible place to learn something like that, and you didn't get outplayed by your opponent just because there's a trick to the airdodge direction to avoid getting kill confirmed by a combo that isn't even true that even your opponent doesn't know about at this point, they just do what works. There's nothing fun or competitive about that.
That's true. There would be plenty of time for players to screw around with the character in friendlies anyways. I also didn't consider that players could be adjusting to any number of recent balance changes. A DLC release will always change the game in one way or another.
Kinda cool, I guess. I'm so bittersweet about Mario Kart 8's roster. All Koopalings is great... But no Diddy Kong is whack.Unrelated to Smash but, I feel like this is important. The OG prima donna's making a comeback?
https://twitter.com/ninsoup/status/1176487134720512000
I gotta admit, despite the already amazing balance of the game, it kind of worries me that Sakurai seems incredibly squeamish about any future balancing. I would say most of the characters are perfectly fine at this point, however there are several in DIRE need of buffs. Kirby and Little Mac to name a couple. Some people chock it up to bad character design, but regardless, they need SOMETHING to be competitively relevant like the rest of the cast. Unfortunately, the last two "character balance" patches don't make it seem like we're going to get any worthwhile changes any time soon.
I'm a really lonely voice in this but Banjo doesn't really feel very well balanced. I'm really hoping that the budget didn't wear thin on balancing the characters, because I'm not ok with the DLC progressively getting more and more imbalanced until we have another Bayonetta on our hands.
Hopefully we'll get some kind of Switch MK material one day (not any time soon, given MKT's existence + MK8D still selling well + MK8D not getting any new DLC lately) that has Diddy as a racer. I'd also love to see the aforementioned Pauline in MK8D... and GIMME KING K. FREAKING ROOL AND KAMEK.
“It has four out of five characters”