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and pichu can't be decloned/luigified? are we serious here? hell could even consider giving him strictly egg moves as his b-moves if they wanted to go the full-on baby pokemon route. sweet kiss sleeps, volt tackle, whatever else(i can't be bothered to look through his moveset). point is, yink is already back in tink. pichu can return as well(and likely will).
Yeah, they did. What are you trying to get at ? It doesn't at all mean that what I stated previously (that they represent more important aspects of the Pokemon series than something as miniscule as Baby Pokemon) or that they aren't as popular as Pichu (Because pretty much every single Pokemon listed is multiple times more popular than Pichu), especially considering Pichu only made it in because Melee was a clone hell.
k.rool and banjo aren't making it because they haven't been relevant for the past decade. k.rool is DK's waluigi and a running joke, and is there someone that's honestly going to defend the travesty that was nuts & bolts, that soulless collectathon?Yeah, they did. What are you trying to get at ? It doesn't at all mean that what I stated previously (that they represent more important aspects of the Pokemon series than something as miniscule as Baby Pokemon) or that they aren't as popular as Pichu (Because pretty much every single Pokemon listed is multiple times more popular than Pichu), especially considering Pichu only made it in because Melee was a clone hell.
I can agree with Lucas, especially with Ness having all of his moves as customs. But Roy still allowed for a much varied play style compared to Marth and Lucy, and you honestly must have your head in the dirt if you're deluded enough to think Lucario "covered" Mewtwo's presence, especially when the latter is far more popular, a legendary, and not even a clone of Lucario.
Really now? Popularity doesn't matter? Yet you're the same person claiming K Rool and Banjo aren't making it in because of that exact reason.
I did not say that.
The game that sold what, 20-30 million?
Absolute BS. You don't seem to know the meaning of decade.
Am I supposed to take this seriously? Like wow, not only does this statement have absolutely no logic to it, not only does it reek of unsupported BS, but you're comparing the main villain of the DK series to a spin off side character of the MArio series? Once again, you display ignorance in calling WFT unpopular, given how well her games sold.
I have a sinking feeling that this thread will be on fire by tuesday, given how much of a flame war it is already.
2008 was the aforementioned tragedy of a game. then it's just been side appearances and other nonsense. banjo's no contender. ryu hayabusa has a better chance than that bear, and itagaki ****ing HATES smash. diddy at least was a focus in tropical freeze, marth was covered in awakening, dhd is the retro rep that always shows up in smash(see: g&w, rob). roy was, wait for it, the melee veteran. guess who else is a melee veteran that's missing but is still possible on both system's hardware(hint: he's kinda small).0
Absolute BS. You don't seem to know the meaning of decade.
Banjo's last game was in 2008, he appeared in Sonic & Sega Racing in 2010, and it's mobile version in 2011, and appeared in Rare Replay as of this summer. Not to mention his games have been released multiple times, meaning he has had exposure to newer audiences. Moreover, relevancy doesn't matter, as shown by characters like Pit, Diddy, Marth, Roy, and the DH, the latter of which wasn't even an original Nintendo IP. All of these Characters appeared in games in times when they were not even well known.
some main villain. so when does he show up in the latest dk games(hint: he doesn't). he's become a spinoff character himself because he's just not important anymore. kinda like how krystal doesn't matter anymore because, guess what, she's ret-gone. and she's the one i actually ****ing wanted in this lineup! at this point the entire dkc series is becoming a side character.
(If anything, Lanky id DK's Waluigi. )
maybe you'll care to point me toward the clamoring for the 'wii fit trainer in smash' thread. go on, i'll wait. not one of 'i was wrong' or 'what a surprise' but 'we demand the trainer from wii fit in smash bros'.
they were also wildly unpopular upon their reveals. yet in they came, and in they stayed. the door is open for pichu, he's just gotta step through, same as roy did.
And it can't come soon enough!
"It's the end of the world as we know it! And I feel fine!"
We're all going to have our certain degrees of saltiness and joy. Hopefully it's the later for me. I haven't had any DLC character disappoint me so far.
You don't think the Inklings or some other character no one suspects, like Cloud wasn't expected, is a likely possibility?
You say that, but he's not. Sakurai already said that Melee is too old to port content from now in a previous interview (Mewtwo & Roy were remade). Squirtle & Ivysaur are the ones that would be 'easy ports' since Brawl's code is still viable to use.
For the minority of the Smash Bros. fanbase, it was 'hella salty', the side that cares about things like 'clones' or 'too many Fire Emblem characters', but his return was highly hoped for by many that had played Super Smash Bros. Melee. There's a reason that the devs of Project M saw fit to have him return along with Mewtwo. No one has really been clamoring for Pichu to return and its more likely that whoever is left will be a part of the Smash Ballot (which, while it hasn't been mentioned by Nintendo since closing, the reason for that is they haven't had an appropriate chance to do so since all the Smash News we got since it closed was Cloud's Trailer. Sakurai will almost certainly mention the Smash Ballot during this Special Broadcast.)
I disagree, I love the Nintendo 3DS version. It gives me something fun to play at any time when I'm out of the house and its my favorite game on the Nintendo 3DS. I find it perfectly playable (probably because I can more easily adapt to playing it on something other then a Gamecube Controller)
While there are Mario characters I'd rather see over Toad, give him a Toadette alt and I'll happily play as them.
I would adore having Raichu, along with Mew its my favorite Gen I Pokémon and amongst my top 4 favorites along with Gardevoir, Mew, and Meloetta.I think even Raichu is more likely than Pichu at this point.
Btw, I'd be hyped as **** for Raichu.Imagine him being a
Same here. Even the one I was 'meh' about (Lucas) didn't disappoint me since I knew people wanted him.
I'm just on the edge of my seat wondering if it'll be the characters we've been predicting or surprise us immensely like Cloud did. Maybe completely predicted, maybe completely surprising, or perhaps a bit of both.
Simple. It's because for right now, nobody is saying that.
no one on earth expected the likes of roy to return. pichu's in the same exact boat.
squirts and ivy are DOA by virtue of charizard existing. pokemon trainer lives on through char, which means squirts and ivy aren't necessary as they were each part of a greater whole.
... but that's what luigification is. roy got luigified, pichu can get luigified.
pm's character selection is what happens when sakurai doesn't temper and reign in the team. seriously? knuckles and lyn? also fe is massively overrated and subsequently overrepped(and nevermind i have actually lost track of marth and lucina mid-match and confused the two). fe characters may be fine in their home series, but in smash they're uninspired animu garbage. hold down+b to counter!
not even the damn announcement for the direct is mentioning the ballot. if sakurai mentions it, it's gonna be 'thank you for your input, you guys gave cool data', a wave, and then we move on to the next segment. it's the brawl ballot all over again.
they're clarifying cloud and how he works, as well as announcing the end of development. that's big enough for an independent direct as a send-off. the veterans are the icing on the farewell cake.
To be fair, nobody's expecting Steve on the basis that "he'd be stupid." It'd be fun watching the thread burn if Steve actually did get in...
someone has to reign in the speculation. otherwise we get dumb **** like 'the colors confirm inklings/k.rool/jesus christ our lord and savior/etc' and the thread becomes either insane wishmongering based on clouds or unreadable drama as fanboys slapfight each other over 'my character's more popular than yours! nuh-uh!'. i back up what i say with reasonable analysis, and people treat me like i'm ********. other people say snake's likely when konami is burning every bridge they can, and they're praised for it. get real.
They didn't originate in a video game. So they're not e|igib|e.
Um, out of curiosity, when did those two team up? Considering I'm a huge Disney nut, I don't seem to remember that happening.
Uh.....Star Wars isn't at all a gaming franchise, so why EVEN suggest this?
People treat you like you're ******** because you're not looking at things from both sides...you're basing your ideals mostly on fan rules and stipluations... 'charizard reps squir/ivy' lolwut...forget the fact that charizard is one of the most popular pokemon in existence and can be argued to be more popular than even pikachu...
Star Wars doesn't happen in order. Star Wars 4 happened before 1. So the video games actually could have happened before the movies in canon.
Oh, yeah, I'd have to agree..I don't think anyone would surprise us as much as Cloud has. The only characters I could see being that surprising would be a 1st or 2nd Party from Sony or Microsoft..and I'm pretty sure that one is near impossible (except for, maybe, Banjo-Kazooie).
More people expected it then you think..not to mention that Sakurai straight up said that Roy got in due to how much demand there was for him to return. I figured he would return in some fashion, either as an Alternate Costume for Marth or as his own Character.
You realize that your reasoning here makes little sense. Unlike Pichu, Squirtle and Ivysaur have unique movesets. Charizard was chosen due to being the most popular of the trio, but that doesn't mean he would be the only one. If a Pokémon Veteran was going to be DLC after Mewtwo, one of them is much more likely then a clone of Pikachu that was never very popular, even though I like Pichu more then the other two.
Roy didn't get Luigified. Roy's moveset stayed the same, it was Marth that changed in Brawl. Pikachu hasn't changed and it seems likely that Pichu wouldn't change.
Knuckles is one of the top choices for a second Sonic representative, along with Dr. Eggman, Tails, and Shadow.
They aren't mentioning much of anything on the announcement aside from 'Cloud and More' the Ballot is probably a part of that 'More'.
Not really. If that was the case they honestly would have kept Cloud until the Broadcast and only announced the Smash Broadcast at the end of the Direct.
Yes, lets reign in speculation, otherwise someone might be dumb and speculate on impossible characters like Cloud Strife & Ryu from Street Fighter.
Sorry..as you can see from my sig, I actually really want Sora in Super Smash Bros.
That's not how originating works.
...I can't even find a reaction gif to explain my befuddlement as to how this is even remotely considered funny. Is speculation at this point already, where sh*tposting isn't even witty and clever anymore?
While true, I think its fair to say that Sakurai wouldn't include a character unless they were the most iconic character of their franchise (or one of them considering Luke & Darth Vader are about as Iconic as one another).
Wasn't saying otherwise. But he still means "characters", not franchises. That's what people need to keep in mind.
What do u even mean by the pokemon having anime designs in melee? Is there even a difference?
