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Makes sense. Several fan service characters can make three or more. But this would line up with everything. Push can I ask you a question? If it's okay with you? You don't have to Awnser it. But in your option who do you think the final DLC characters will be?
My joke missed your head. It came from something that caters towards the competitive crowd, therefore Sakurai hate it
Shovel Knight, Inklings and no clue on the third character. For SK and Inklings I feel that since the sources are legitimate(not 100% sure on the Inklings source) that those two characters could still be in the game.
Came to that conclusion a little while ago, so I completely agree. I sure hope that Sakurai lets us know when DLC is completely over so that our minds can be put to rest as soon as the time comes...
I'll be sure to check it out when it's up. And I'd love if SK and Inklings made it in as their two. I want in so fine by me. I wish K. Rool could be the third or Wolf. But if it's a third party beside Shovel Knight I'm fine with that especially if it's Shantae as she is one I and a lot of people want in. Thank you for your thoughts it's good to hear your option on this alright thanks for the time,
If Sakurai doesn't ever officially announce the end of DLC then it'll be just like the last couple of months have been; a torturous hell of constant anticipation, impatience, and tears. Except worse, because it'll last forever.
If theres only 3 left I dont see them announcing them all at once, imo its either 1 character gets announced of 3 or 3 out of 6 are announced
Yeah that's true, it could be like how Lucas/Roy/Ryu were suppose to be. One character is announced ahead of the pack and the other two were "surprises".
Am I missing the point of this? It sounds like a joke (as in, surely that doesn't matter at all).
Either:
That sounds a bit much, especially a story mode, not to mention I feel like Wolf won't be in the final batch, but before thatTo go out with a "bang", I think it would be cool if the developers did this.
1. Add 4 characters, 1 veteran (Wolf) and 3 newcomers
2. More Mii costumes, obviously
3. Offline tournament mode
4. 3 old stages and 3 new stages.
5. Story mode
It's kind of scary talking about the end of Smash DLC or Smash 4 in general. I remember how hyped I was when I saw the Smash 4 unveiling back in 2013 and now we're almost at the end of 2015. Time sure flys doesn't it?
Also, despite all the constant flame wars and backlash about certain characters, It's been cool to vote for characters WE wanted. May the best characters win, or in this case, chosen.
I'm aware, there is no way Nintendo/Sakurai would want to do that much.
Sounds about right Wolf and maybe Shovel Knight in pack 1, and King K. Rool and maybe Inklings in pack 2. Stages Tower of Fate. Gangplank Galleon. DLC costumes Shantae, Isaac, Waluigi. And just cause Goku, Shrek, and Freddy Fazbear for Mii Brawler. DLC ending in September 2016. Just before NX launches in November next year.
I was thinking more Wolf, Dixie and Isaac, then K Rool, Krystal and Bandana Dee, mii costumes would include Shovel Knight, shantae, someone from Xenoblade X, someone from FE fates, a couple more costumes based in upcoming games etc etc
I dream of a day where I can play as Mario, Link, Olimar. ECT running, Using Mario and his moves like Fire Glove, Fair, Dair, Link's attacks and Olimar's. As I play a Melee esque adventure again. Would be grand.I really hope that eventually WE DO get an Adventure-Esque-Mode into the game...
I want to believe...
Well, "speak for yourself" I'd say. The era when everyone was shocked by Snake's inclusion is long gone. Considering we already got Ryu and if we're also getting SK as well like you're suggesting it then the third character will definitely not generate more hype by the virtue of being third-party. If anything people will be hugely disappointed by the fact Inkling would be the only Nintendo newcomer for DLC. Personally I know if the final DLC lineup was SK + Inkling + another guest my satisfaction levels for the rest of Smash DLC would flatten to oblivion.
I agree. I would also be disappointed if Inkling, SK and another third-party were the final characters (I'm not against Inkling though).
Whilst I do agree with your main point, My reasoning is much more different than yours. Whilst I do agree that certain third-party characters can and will generate a lot more hype than most Nintendo newcomer DLC, it has nothing to do with the fact that they are third-party characters as much as it has to do with how big they are. Someone like Snake and Bomberman? Sure I can see how they would generate a lot more hype. But niche third-party characters like Shantae and Shovel Knight? Certainly not. Bigger and more well-known characters among the Nintendo fanbase like Wolf, Dixie, K. Rool, Toad, Bandanna Dee, Inklings and any popular Pokemon characters would definetly get much more hype world-wide due to their popularity and familiarity among Smash fans, more so than the mentioned third-party characters. Those two characters are far too niche for their third-party status to help them generate hype.
Building off your point somewhat:
True Blue Warrior
. Sure they have fans, but we need to remember that we are in a constant echo-chamber.
I wouldn't start moveset predictions until the character is actually confirmed.Since Character Discussion closed down last week, I'm moving my Isaac moveset prediction here. It's a long post, so I'm sticking it in a spoiler warning to preserve space.
Here's my moveset prediction for Isaac from Golden Sun. I only played the first GS, so no Lost Age moves are included.
Movement: About the ground speed of Link, maybe a bit faster. Moderately heavy, with medium height jumps and generally fast fall.
Jab: 1 simple swing
Dash: Critical Hit motion
Ftilt: Sword parry
Utilt: Upward swing
Dtilt: Sword sweep
These tilts can be used in tandem with each other to make up jab combos on the fly.
Side Smash: Rapid Smash
Up Smash: Mad Growth/Punji
Down Smash: Earthquake
Nair: 360 Spin (like Marth's, but once around).
Fair: Parry like the forward tilt.
Bair: Back spin strike. Changes facing.
Uair: Two slices up, the first combos into the second.
Dair: Two slices down. Has generically downward knockback, but not a true meteor.
Neutral Special: Djinn Unleash
Uses a Djinn to attack in front as a ranged attack. The order is always Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Mercury, and each has a slightly different effect. Once a Djinn is used, it charges Down Special by 1 stage albeit slightly increasing the knockback of moves against Isaac. Can be used only 4 times before having to use Down Special.
Venus: Breaks shields.
Mars: Higher knockback, and smashes at higher percents.
Jupiter: Way faster than the others.
Mercury: Multi-hit hitbox, giving it the highest potential damage.
Side Special: Move
A moving reflector like Palutena's Reflect Barrier mixed with a Gale Strike-like multi-hitbox. Range greatly reduced from Brawl. Like 1/2 of FD.
Up Special: Growth
A 45 degree vine whiplash that doubles as tether recovery. The tip of the attack has a powerful smash hitbox, and is a great option for combo-ing into.
Down Special: Summon Jupiter
Depending on how many Djinns have been unleashed before the using of this move (up to 4), the beam blasted by this move becomes stronger and has a longer range. The final stage is a potent smashing projectile about even in strength to Marth's uncharged tipper side smash.
Final Smash: Ragnarok. Other characters freeze as Isaac casts Ragnarok. The spectral sword falls from the sky, smashing those in its path.
Yeah, that's definetly true. Snake and Bomberman have a huge legacy of fans with tons of exposure among a wider gaming audience so the idea that they would easily trump the characters I list makes sense.
Honestly speaking, I'd say pretty most of the most important Nintendo characters were already in Brawl to begin with.
Eh, I disagree. I'd say the only majorly requested Nintendo character on par with them is Isaac. All the other characters I mentioned were notable characters from major Nintendo franchises, which I'd say put them above Shantae and Shovel.I would honestly put the indie reps in the same tier as a lot of the Nintendo characters you listed,
He was talking about iShovel Knight being their indie baby.
While I agree with all of this. Shovel Knight and Shantae shouldn't be tossed aside so easily. They maybe underdogs when it comes to getting in Smash. But they do have a strong following. Plus they are relevant indie characters. Nintendo's got a good relationship with both Yacht Club Games, and Wayforward. They could very well still be in.
I doubt it, the reason they didn't add Takamaru was because his game wasn't available in the west, Shantae and Shovel Knight's games aren't in Japan which is even worse as it's the devs home country
I don't think SK and Shantae would really cause that much hype, their games sell well for indie titles but as games as a whole there's a lot to be desired, I think new donkey kong or zelda characters would be bigger as they come from bigger series, tons of people love the DK series so K Rool or Dixie would get a lot of Hype from that crowd and a character like Impa would generate a lot of hype for Zelda fans.Building off your point somewhat:
This is something I talk about in my upcoming article (need to do final revision after this post!), but you could make the argument that the best and the brightest Nintendo stars are, for the most part, already represented in the game. I think a third party character like Bomberman or Snake would easily trump most of the characters you list...with the exception of Inklings (who are very, very popular right now. Even my high school students are talking about Splatoon) and maybe Wolf as there are a lot of fans of Brawl (But, let's be honest...if he wasn't in Brawl then he probably wouldn't be such a strong contender for DLC).
After a certain point we are just treading into Nintendo's B-Star territory (Before someone brings up the clones, there are a lot of misconceptions about clones). I know these are the fan favorites in the speculation community, but I've been saying for months that our polling methods are very inaccurate and probably don't represent the bigger Smash community's wishes. Yes, that even includes the polls I've conducted. I honestly don't think Shantae and SK would generate a lot hype outside the Smash community, which is why I keep going back and forth on the SK rumor. However, at least SK has a ton of cross-overs, and Nintendo is treating him like their indie-baby. I would honestly put the indie reps in the same tier as a lot of the Nintendo characters you listed,
