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(Also, just soSchnee117 doesn't hate me, I made this under the assumption that Lincoln piloting A.B.E. would be an Assist Trophy.
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To get people hyped up for the presentation. He's the main course. I highly doubt we're going to get anyone with as much shock factor as Cloud.
It either means there is someone bigger (or just bigger overall) or it was meant to get people more intrested and excited imho.
Metals were outclassed at every angle in MK8, and even in 200cc when everybody was using lightweights we saw more Shy Guy, babies, Isabel and the smaller Koopalings over Toad who had the exact same stats as half of them. It's not about tiers.
Yes, but it wasn't "exclude Kremlings" and more "make your own enemies and not ride on nostalgia." Also note the man convinced them to rehaul Prime into a straighter FPS with realistic Space Pirates from a TPS with "cartoony" enemies.
People are going to hella disappointed if Cloud's the main thing. Would of been better to give us Wolf or whatever and then shatter our expectations.
I always thought it was because this was how the Ryu reveal should have been. Unlike with Ryu we had no kinds of hints saying that Cloud was coming. Not only that but the current leak that was going around during that time was saying that Shovel Knight was suppose to have been the next newest DLC character, that got proven false because it wasn't Shovel Knight. If anything he just wanted a reaction from us for a newcomer that no one expected and decided to drop an even more bigger bomb after Cloud with the broadcast if that is what he aiming for.
I'll just post my overall views on the impact of relevance and what I think it means in a more organized manner. Reply any concerns you have with my argument overall. I'm probably not clarifying it well.Fleming better not happen before Sami (especially after PM):
Honest, with Snake gone, it'd be nice to see ANYONE take over his moveset, and AW was an awesome series that could use a reboot.
In all honesty, it doesn't so much matter, reading the notes and posts, PM Sami was gonna be amazing, with her fighting style, and her badass punky attitude. Somehow I doubt Smash 4 would do her the same way.
Too bad she'll never see the light of day... ;_;
CodeBlue_ I'll reply to you later dude. Too much to cover, and I wanna play XCX
The Miyamoto thing is a rumor, not a fact. What we do know is that, when specifically asked which characters should be in Returns, Miyamoto's only answer was Cranky. Retro made the call to scrap everything else and make Hawaiian Goombas for enemies.
I don't even play Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. and I think he'd be pretty dope. We don't have any steampunk based characters in Smash. I think he's pretty unique concept wise. That alone makes me want him in. Besides, that game needs more love. I'm a sucker for niche Nintendo series in Smash.
Retro rep: "There are no crocodiles. (Laughs)"
This ain't a charity here. If people don't want to buy a character they think is weak or dumb, they won't. If you're that into matchups you either have a tournament scene or just find people on Smashboards.
Okay. I'm aware that there will always be a couple of people who won't buy certain DLC for certain characters, but I'm asking this as a whole: Would majority of the community not buy a character because it's not the one they asked for?
The internet could explode anyway whoever is the character (my opinion)
The majority of the Smash playerbase doesn't doesn't buy DLC. Communities such as Smashboards are the exception, not the rule. Most people would rather not sink extra money into something that already cost 60$ on a character they don't care for.
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Obviously DLC isn't catered towards those people to begin with...If they are not going to buy it regardless, then it really doesn't matter which character is added...but when it comes to the others who are willing to spend the extra few bucks then it could matter...
That's because they're the casual fanbase. The casual fanbase probably consists of those who are too young to remember the past games or people who play Smash for entertainment reasons only and couldn't care less about any of the content in the game. For that reason, I doubt the DLC is even aimed towards them. The casual fanbase doesn't even know who half of the popular ballot characters are and they certainly couldn't care less.
How the hell does that make someone entitled? Why would you pay money for something that you don't want?
And people keep sayinh Hyrule Warriors won't leave any impact on the overall series and would never be represented in Smash.
I say entitled because: We could have easily not gotten DLC at all, and because Sakurai never owed us anything; he never said that he was going to add a character in just because he or she was a popular ballot choice. Sakurai can add whomever he desires; if he wants a weird character, then he will add a weird character. This poll was mostly just a suggestion poll if anything. Sure, more popular requests will be noticed more, but the poll never said that we wouldn't be getting obscure characters either. Just food for thought.
Are you kidding? He's not entitled to having people buy things that they don't find interesting. Should people just buy whatever dlc pops up just because its there?
I won't deny the slim chance of Crash actually joining the fray, but I feel he's unlikely for two reasons:On the subject of third parties, here’s one I think is an interesting wild card.
What’s important to note is that with every third party in Smash, all of them are noticeability famous worldwide and have international appeal. That’s something I think gives Crash Bandicoot the upper edge over something like Rayman, who basically barely exists in Japan. Not only were his games a roaring success on the PSX in the US, but also in Japan as well. The original game was the first non-Japanese title to receive a "Gold Prize" in Japan for sales of over 500,000 units. Plus, despite being most famous on Playstation, he’s had plenty of exposure on Nintendo consoles afterwards, if being associated with Nintendo is still a criteria of yours.
This isn’t necessarily a prediction, but when discussing third parties I think Crash is kind of interesting. That, and the notion of Smash Bros. getting both Cloud AND Crash while Playstation All-Stars couldn’t is pretty amusing.
I don't think Hyrule Warriors Impa will appear in a mainseries game, but I do hope an able-bodied version of Impa gets a major role along with Sheik in Zelda Wii U.And people keep sayinh Hyrule Warriors won't leave any impact on the overall series and would never be represented in Smash.
Hyrule Warriors' Impa, when?
Crash feels like Banjo & Kazooie to me. Both were popular in the GameCube age, but kinda died out afterward. (Seems to be the case for Spyro until Skylanders happened. I hope Spyro gets a mainseries game soon.) I think he'd be cool to play if he had any abilities I didn't know about (Meaning anything other than spinning), but I'm kinda neutral on him.On the subject of third parties, here’s one I think is an interesting wild card.
What’s important to note is that with every third party in Smash, all of them are noticeability famous worldwide and have international appeal. That’s something I think gives Crash Bandicoot the upper edge over something like Rayman, who basically barely exists in Japan. Not only were his games a roaring success on the PSX in the US, but also in Japan as well. The original game was the first non-Japanese title to receive a "Gold Prize" in Japan for sales of over 500,000 units. Plus, despite being most famous on Playstation, he’s had plenty of exposure on Nintendo consoles afterwards, if being associated with Nintendo is still a criteria of yours.
This isn’t necessarily a prediction, but when discussing third parties I think Crash is kind of interesting. That, and the notion of Smash Bros. getting both Cloud AND Crash while Playstation All-Stars couldn’t is pretty amusing.
You mean the PS1/64 age, right? Those were the golden days for those characters, especially considering BK didn't get a console game during the sixth generation of video games. Another thing is you could argue that Crash would be less of a hassle to get due to well, not being owned by Microsoft.
Again, I'm talking about the entirety of the fanbase. Would majority of the fanbase downright refuse to buy an unpopular character? I actually think that it is more likely for us to get popular characters, anyway. I'm asking this because there is no rule saying that there won't be an obscure character from the ballot. I have yet to see people saying that they wouldn't buy a character because he or she isn't "X"
Yeah. I don't know why I said Gamecube.
I think you both have a point here. No, nobody has to, or should buy any character they don't want to, but people shouldn't immediately dismiss a character because of who he is, and should at least look into him/her/it, before not buying. (With the exception being that you despise the character and everything he/she/it stands for
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Yes! Thank you! That's what I meant. I'm not the best at wording things. Because of that, I may come off as a little mean and confrontational. I felt the word "entitled" was too harsh to use, and I regret using that term.I think you both have a point here. No, nobody has to, or should buy any character they don't want to, but people shouldn't immediately dismiss a character because of who he is, and should at least look into him/her/it, before not buying. (With the exception being that you despise the character and everything he/she/it stands for
I stopped paying attention to this dude since everything he says is complete bullplop. When he started talking about Toad being unpopular, is about the time I tuned him out. Plus, now he's acting like he knows DLC spending habits of people who own the game, claiming no one buys DLC except people on Smashboards. I'm a highly outspoken person and I understand my opinions are divisive, but at least I don't live in my own fantasy land>Issac
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>People would rather play Zant and Volga (literally who) over Impa- the only non-Triforce Zelda character to actually ever even reappear in the series with a significant role
>Dry Bowser being more likely than King K.Rool
You are also the guy who started this 'Steve from Minecraft is an iconic gaming character' meme aren't you?
What a
of crap.
Snowmads are mostly beloved, it's the Tikis most people think are bland as hell. But that's another can of worms.
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I'd argue with the first point. People were really upset with the original roster, remember
were in and wasn't at the time. That didn't exactly rub people in a good way. If we hadn't gotten any DLC for a game that is capable of DLC, there would be some very unhappy fans and shareholders. Now for the second point, if Sakurai can add whoever he wants, why even bother having the ballot? I mean if you've already got a pre determined character, why bother having a ballot? Is it so he can use the ballot as an excuse to add that character and claim that the fans voted on that character? I can't wait for speculation to end, I'm getting sick and tired of it.
As a character, yeah, I doubt Steve will happen. I can't really come up with a good argument against him (And I haven't seen anyone else come up with a very solid one either), but I can't see him getting in over other popular, requested characters. He'd look bizarre in Smash, they'd either have to take a lot of liberties with his movements and animations (Steve isn't very limber in Minecraft) to the point that he wouldn't act like Steve, or they'd make him like he is in Minecraft, rigid with little animation, which would probably look extremely bad compared to other characters in the game.
What I can see though, is people got over it, or at least most people I've seen have gotten over it. About the ballot: There have been ballots before in the past, and there are times that characters didn't get in despite being popularly requested. I also don't remember Sakurai ever even saying that he added a character because people voted for them, and I highly doubt he will in the future. The poll is just a suggestion poll, a poll used to gauge characters basically. We may get a popular character and we may not get a popular character, but judging by the past DLC characters we've gotten, we might get a popular one in the end.I'd argue with the first point. People were really upset with the original roster, remember
I want to move on, I just want to know if the characters I want made it in or not. If they don't get in I don't want Sakurai to give a stupid excuse as to why they didn't get in. Honestly that's worse than the character just not getting in.