G&W Broken, Definately.

[Sonic XD]

Ok, so I played against a lvl 9 wolf with G&W. Wolf got only 1 KO, and G&W kicked his @$$. I would say that G&W is definately top tier now.

 

[sgt. fuzz]

Computers don't determine tier lists. Humans can use moves much more effectively with every character.

 

[Roman.]

Either way, g&w probably will be top tier considering how high he places in tournies.

 

[mr_kennedy44]

Either way, g&w probably will be top tier considering how high he places in tournies.

I disagree. I think he will place high tier at best. (At least that's what I hope).

 

[napZzz]

He probably will, but I'm kind of wishing he wont be because then he might become a noob character that everyone uses..

 

[omegablackmage]

agreed, he's looking to be at least upper tier though, likely top tier. his approach is pretty much unbeatable

 

[Farnsworth]

O.o Most likely high tier. But I agree, I don't want him to be a character that noobs start to flock to.

P.S.-Computers don't determine anything.

 

[TechnoMonster]

Don't feed the trolls.

 

[Mizar]

My bro has a noob G&W but I still have a hard time beating him with my wolf. I do win though, but his constant c-stick smash spamming is so annoying. Also, did G&W got WAY faster lagwise?

 

[A2ZOMG]

My bro has a noob G&W but I still have a hard time beating him with my wolf. I do win though, but his constant c-stick smash spamming is so annoying. Also, did G&W got WAY faster lagwise?

At least his D-air has a LOT less lag. His N-air autocancels, and his B-air is the broken approach.

His dodges have less lag too IIRC.

G&W never had all that much lag with smashes, however his Smashes are MASSIVELY stronger. They were already really strong in Melee. It's just his D-smash sucked because you needed to sweetspot it. His D-smash doesn't need to be sweetspotted anymore to kill. It's just way too all round strong. If you get hit by it, IT WILL FREAKING KILL YOU. Either off to the side potentially gimping you (especially if you're a character with short recovery like Wolf or Ike), or it will star KO you.

 

[Elbow]

O.o Most likely high tier. But I agree, I don't want him to be a character that noobs start to flock to.

P.S.-Computers don't determine anything.

Agreed. This is somewhat why I use G&W. Right now he's very underestimated by casuals (and even some pros), and it likely wont stay that way. Keep off my G&W, n00bs!

 

[HammerWang]

lol ****
i wish g&w was still the character thats just short of the lime light :[
but w/e i guess theres gunna be alot of g&w users jus because hes uber-tier now

 

[scrubadub]

If you want to see broken, check out toon link. An uphill battle even for G&W...

 

[Christova]

Ok, so I played against a lvl 9 wolf with G&W. Wolf got only 1 KO, and G&W kicked his @$$. I would say that G&W is definately top tier now.

>_<

If that's so, then Zelda's definitely also broken.

Computers definitely don't determine tier lists. If they did, then I think we'd have Pit in the bottom tier.

 

[~S@G3~]

Game and Watch is totaly broken I have been playing him latley and he is crazy good.

 

[AquaTech]

I hope G&W isn't determined to be high tier because then everyone will use him.

 

[JonnyManya]

Wouldn't surpise me, G&W has been buffed so much it's crazy.
Although, I don't want everyone using him =/

 

[Astrax]

G&W is definitely one of the best, if not the best (and most broken) character in brawl. After my friend who never playerd brawl before and my cousin won me some games with him, i will definitely start using him
I mean, his moves are broken in almost every aspect

 

[whoami111]

g&w is not broken, ROB is.

 

[CyberGlitch]

His laggy moves now were laggy in Brawl because they couldn't be L-Canceled. Now no L-Canceling is the norm, giving him a bit of an advantage.

Also, fast characters (a weakness of his in the last game) have been slowed down considerably. He really hasn't slowed down much at all.

In this sense he's been buffed by everyone else being downgraded.

Even with that in mind, though, he's not broken. He's still very light, and he still has weaknesses (trouble with Marth and Ike for example). The game isn't so much about having a powerful or top tier character anymore. It's about learning the other characters' weaknesses and using mindgames (not that Melee wasn't about these too, but a "top tier" character tended to be most important for victory because of the absurd advantages they had. Brawl is a much more "limited" game which limits the advantage one character can have over another).

G&W is successful against other opponents because they don't understand his weaknesses yet. He also owns most campers, destroying certain peoples strategies).

 

[The_Subhuman]

With the increasing popularity of the "Reverse Aerial Rush" technique from the transition from Melee to Brawl combined with a broken Bair makes Game and Watch look very sexy :D

 

[OmegaWai]

There's no way n00bs will flock to G&W, simply because he's not a pretty boy with a sword/bow nor a hot woman with a whip.

Most n00bs are casuals, and wouldn't be caught dead using "way too kiddy" characters. It always turns out to be a Pit VS Pit VS Ike VS Ike, with some Marth and Link tossed along the way.

 

[Impossibilities]

Too many broken characters in brawl.......Olimar, R.O.B., and somehow Toon Link......and now G&W.

 

[Needle of Juntah]

GW is mid teir

 

[The_Subhuman]

GW is mid teir

There is no tier list yet...

And second of all do you have a reason as to why G&W would fall short to other characters?

 

[Knyaguy]

Today i casually picked G&W and played my friend. Mind you I had never played the brawl G&W or watched any video of him (due to his suckiness in melee) I owned him. I couldn't beat him with my main (Pokemon Trainer) but with a guy who i picked for fun. His recovery is amazing, his turtle and fishbowl are broken. My approach is nigh unstopable. G&W will be low high or high mid tier atleast.

 

[WestCoastNinja]

Anybody have vids of G&W pwning? I have a hard time believing he is broken.

 

[deathdefier]

Go to the videos section, it's a sticky.

 

[WestCoastNinja]

Cool thanks. I must have missed it. I cant wait to see G&W kick butt.

 

[cowsmoo71]

2nd melee?

This discussion reminds me about, melee, a totally screwed up, broken tier list with cheap broken characters at the top for their metagames will increse at a much more faster pace then the low tiers. I think the tiers get more uneven every game, wait till the 4th one .
But, i could be wrong.

 

[Mr.Trite]

He is top for sure. He has bacon.

Perhaps some sausage as well.

What other character can offer such delicious treats?

 

[Devilution]

In Melee G&W could only L-Cancel 2 of his aeriels... so people were used to having to deal with the lag. So now the old G&W Mains are good because they are used to not being able to L-Cancel alot of moves.

 

[Tube]

to the thread maker, should of done best of 2/3

 

[cowsmoo71]

GaW is broken. But not as much as Pit. It looks like GaW is gonna be one of those cheap characters that everyone goes to. Pit also, but casuals would play Pit more.
Great, more being called a tourney f@6.

 

[Neb]

Well this thread was unexpectedly pulled out from the grave, >.>.

 

[cutter]

GaW is broken. But not as much as Pit. It looks like GaW is gonna be one of those cheap characters that everyone goes to. Pit also, but casuals would play Pit more.
Great, more being called a tourney f@6.

lolwat? Pit was completely overrated at launch time; how is he more broken than G&W?

-Does he have one of the best attacks and approaches in the game?
-Does he have a move that not only stops projectiles, but PUNISHES spamming of them?
-Does he have a throw that allows deadly techchasing?
-Does he have ridiculously powerful smashes?
-Do Pit's aerials have massive, lingering disjointed hitboxes?

 

[Needle of Juntah]

actually computers are better than alot of people LOL at least from what i can see

 

[DiasFlac]

I find it weird how G&W can kill every character at 80% with his Down and Forward smash and some of his hitboxes just seem weird to me.

but the world keeps turning.

 

[YoshiGame'nLucas]

Ok, so I played against a lvl 9 wolf with G&W. Wolf got only 1 KO, and G&W kicked his @$$. I would say that G&W is definately top tier now.

Stupid Sonic!!! Tiers r 4 queers!!!
nah but computers usually suck worse than humans and it also matters if your good with the character

 

[cutter]

I find it weird how G&W can kill every character at 80% with his Down and Forward smash and some of his hitboxes just seem weird to me.

but the world keeps turning.

The Dsmash has such deceptive range because there are invisible hitboxes outside the hammers. My friends get so angry when they're hit by a tipper Dsmash but they just hit the area out of it.

Then again, check out Snake's Ftilt and Utilt. They have sick range that defies the laws of physics!